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Foilin
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Post subject: Mages. Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:50 am |
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[SD]Twysta
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:06 pm |
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Hai i r mage Currently gearing up for pvp as i returned to wow. We got some nice stuff coming up in the next patch
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:23 pm |
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Nerf Arcane Barrage.
That is all.
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Foilin
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:49 pm |
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Priam
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:21 am |
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Meh, arcane is too easy, so i dropped it.
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[SD]Twysta
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:44 pm |
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Priam wrote: Meh, arcane is too easy, so i dropped it. Meh i'm sticking to frost for pvp
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Priam
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:12 pm |
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Mages are quite cool atm, just need to get it to 80 asap. Since i dont have any 80 char atm ;p Dropped the DK at 77.
But no times hurts.
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Foilin
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:27 am |
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Priam
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:19 am |
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Foilin wrote: ok. so arcane is getting the shit nerf'd out of it... discuss... pvp specs. im thinking simthing like 18/2/51 I don't think it'll be that bad, but we'll see. Slow will prolly get changed though.
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[SD]Twysta
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:40 pm |
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Foilin
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:08 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:05 pm |
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I'll probably make a mage twink, saw some pvp vids and I like it. Probably as soon as I max enchanting/tailoring on my dk
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bakafish
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:10 am |
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I see takolin trolling the wowhead mage forum lol.
You're going FFB at 80? You'll have to go by with Arcane for heroics at least if not your DPS will be low since you need like 14% hit to cap with FFB.
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takolin
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:02 am |
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bakafish wrote: I see takolin trolling the wowhead mage forum lol.
You're going FFB at 80? You'll have to go by with Arcane for heroics at least if not your DPS will be low since you need like 14% hit to cap with FFB. I'm hardly trolling. If I read things correctly, heroic bosses don't require a lot of hit. Me thinks they're 2 levels above 80 thus, you don't need 17% in total but a mere 6% of which 3% are supplied with talents. I hope I can whip up 3% with blues from non heroics to be set or I'll need to pump up my tailoring from some hit rate. Thus I hope I can spend enough time in them to get my 14% before any raiding.
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bakafish
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:05 am |
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takolin wrote: bakafish wrote: I see takolin trolling the wowhead mage forum lol.
You're going FFB at 80? You'll have to go by with Arcane for heroics at least if not your DPS will be low since you need like 14% hit to cap with FFB. I'm hardly trolling. If I read things correctly, heroic bosses don't require a lot of hit. Me thinks they're 2 levels above 80 thus, you don't need 17% in total but a mere 6% of which 3% are supplied with talents. I hope I can whip up 3% with blues from non heroics to be set or I'll need to pump up my tailoring from some hit rate. Thus I hope I can spend enough time in them to get my 14% before any raiding. Yeah just kidding. Oh yeah, I forgot Heroics bosses are lower level than raid bosses. You're right. What was the conclusion of the thread by the way, I didn't get it. If I were to go FFB or Fireball TtW should I get Combustion? Or even using it? Now that you mentioned it, level 82 hit requirement would be 6%... I can get that entirely with just talents. Time to make another set in equipment manager for heroics.
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:11 am |
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bakafish wrote: takolin wrote: bakafish wrote: I see takolin trolling the wowhead mage forum lol.
You're going FFB at 80? You'll have to go by with Arcane for heroics at least if not your DPS will be low since you need like 14% hit to cap with FFB. I'm hardly trolling. If I read things correctly, heroic bosses don't require a lot of hit. Me thinks they're 2 levels above 80 thus, you don't need 17% in total but a mere 6% of which 3% are supplied with talents. I hope I can whip up 3% with blues from non heroics to be set or I'll need to pump up my tailoring from some hit rate. Thus I hope I can spend enough time in them to get my 14% before any raiding. Yeah just kidding. Oh yeah, I forgot Heroics bosses are lower level than raid bosses. You're right. What was the conclusion of the thread by the way, I didn't get it. If I were to go FFB or Fireball TtW should I get Combustion? Or even using it? Well apparently combustion is worthless while using glyph of living bomb. But as FFB you hardly have a decent substitute. You could get blast wave and that's about it. For FB-TTW You can get a point in the spirit talent (student of the mind iirc) and you'll be better off. The main reason is sucks is A: If you have around 50 crit raid buffed you only crit 3 times after 6 skills. But with combustion you'll crit 3 times after 5 times. Thus the increase after a certain amount of crit rate is negligible because combustion is lost after 3 crits and has a 3 min cooldown. B: The crits of LB while glyphed consume a combustion charge. Thus you'd want to have the crits on FFB/FB because they're higher than the one on LB ticks but that's not happening.
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bakafish
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:49 am |
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Meh, guess I won't take it if I ever roll Fireball or FFB. Gonna pick up some fun skills like Blast Wave, Dragon's Breath or even Blazing Speed.
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takolin
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:15 am |
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bakafish wrote: Meh, guess I won't take it if I ever roll Fireball or FFB. Gonna pick up some fun skills like Blast Wave, Dragon's Breath or even Blazing Speed. You can't take dragon's breath without combustion.
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bakafish
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:16 am |
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takolin wrote: bakafish wrote: Meh, guess I won't take it if I ever roll Fireball or FFB. Gonna pick up some fun skills like Blast Wave, Dragon's Breath or even Blazing Speed. You can't take dragon's breath without combustion. DAMMIT.
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:24 am |
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It's widly known that combustion needs to be fixed, it will be good again one Blizzard gets too it. People on the mage forums have been rubbing it in their faces.
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bakafish
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:23 am |
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Priam wrote: It's widly known that combustion needs to be fixed, it will be good again one Blizzard gets too it. People on the mage forums have been rubbing it in their faces. I'll stay Arcane till then I guess.
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:30 am |
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bakafish wrote: Priam wrote: It's widly known that combustion needs to be fixed, it will be good again one Blizzard gets too it. People on the mage forums have been rubbing it in their faces. I'll stay Arcane till then I guess. Fire is still better dps in some cases. Only go arcane if you have the 20K+ mana to support the highest rotation.
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bakafish
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:35 am |
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Priam wrote: bakafish wrote: Priam wrote: It's widly known that combustion needs to be fixed, it will be good again one Blizzard gets too it. People on the mage forums have been rubbing it in their faces. I'll stay Arcane till then I guess. Fire is still better dps in some cases. Only go arcane if you have the 20K+ mana to support the highest rotation. That would be optimal but I like Arcane style a lot. Not messing up on Evocation is a nice initiative for me to understand the whole boss fight.
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bakafish
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:40 am |
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- Arcane Instability: Tooltip reworded to clarify design intent.
- Burning Determination: Some Silence and Interrupt effects that did not trigger this talent will now trigger it properly, including Bash, Hammer of Justice, Shield of the Templar, Garrote and Gag Order.
- Combustion: Fire spell misses will no longer trigger this talent.
- Conjure Refreshment: Rank 1 food will no longer overwrite the drink buff from rank 2 food.
- Fireball: Periodic damage from this spell can no longer trigger Combustion.
- Living Bomb: Periodic critical strikes from this ability can now trigger Ignite and Hot Streak.
- Mirror Image: The mirror images will no longer complete casts of Frostbolt on targets which are Polymorphed at the time their Frostbolt channel finishes.
- Molten Armor: Critical strikes from the effect on this armor will no longer trigger Ignite.
First they removed the single target restriction on Living Bomb and now this... Arcane left in the dust? :/
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Priam
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Post subject: Re: Mages. Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:14 am |
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Yep. It's back to fire for every mage that likes to raid sometimes.
Sucks, I like arcane.
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