skill is universal if you know how to judge.
"if" only everyone knew how to judge, humor and art would be universal too...
how can you judge someones skill without emitting an opinion
a judgment IS an opinion...
and just because it's opinionated doesn't mean it still shouldn't be there, i mean it's just for fun. If you will not find some, or any of them funny, well then try and make one. I proposed the idea not for people to be judged on their sense of humor, or their skill but to stimulate and entertain.
No, you cannot judge humor.
Knock knock jokes may be brilliant to you. It wont be brilliant to me.
Comedian A may be funny to me. He may offend you. Humor is perspective.
Skill is universal when it comes to:
Every PS user falls into one of those categories. Novice being the most abundant to Professional being the scarcest.
In GFX, you dont vote based on whether you like the guy, or if he has a nice personality and the other guy is an asshole. You based on which one is closer to meeting the criteria of Professional.
In other words the person who best uses depth, color, effects, composition, lighting, creativity etc... overall without overdoing one area and under performing in other areas is the one who should get the vote.
In this case you shouldn't be giving an opinion as a judge. Your opinions only matter when your giving critique.
You vote for the best, and the most creative. Not the under dog who has no chance.
If a novice beats a pro then he wont learn anything. He wont improve and he will think he is a pro, when in fact he isn't.
how does anything you said apply to my proposal?
I got your idea, yes i agree you cannot judge humor in the same way
you judge the skill, and if you let all preferences aside, like everyone should
, then it becomes universal.
But what i proposed has absolutely nothing to do with what you said... I proposed that someone gives or randomly finds a picture of a person ( or thing), and we all try and make it look funny. THEN, others may just look at like 10 different funny versions of the same pic...I DID NOT, say ANYTHING about a judgment, or comparing, or skill.
So let's set aside the whole useless and endless dispute, and let me hear what you truly think about my idea?
I think it's good because:
1. it let's participate everyone, regardless of their PS skill
2. it let's the pro show off their skill, wihtout actually competing, so that new guys are stimulated to perform better
3. it may end up being funnier then you think ( set aside your political views and imagine for example 10 deformed pics of some present or past president of the US
4. it good cause i say so
P.S (if you want to continue arguing for the heck of it
I still think humor can be judge universally
, one of that scale of universality could be : Who makes most people laugh, while offending the less people possible, is the best...but see, that's just a possibility. Just like judging PS skill can be done by comparing "what you said", or it could be judged differently.
For example, by comparing, which one best represents a subject...
the scale of judgement you proposed for the skill, is already an opinion, because what makes you think that it's THE right scale to judge skill?