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 Post subject: Re: MY dumb questions about the world
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:02 pm 
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wont quote so it wont get so big, anyways yeah, it may not seem like there is free will by just reading my comment, you'll have to live here so you'd understand it, the seperation is in some cases, like the waterpark thingy, its mixed and female only days obviously for women's advantage (but the advisor timing is completely something I dont understand, its not even religion related at all)..

well they are not really rules but lets say they are, I myself broke these rules many times, I may not be a good person in that regard but I know what i did wasnt right, that doesnt make me a non-muslim because forgiveness is always there.


Saying it like that makes it appear like a religious cop-out statement....You have a fail-safe backup after doing wrong....just an observation...The impression I get anyways....Either way thx for what little insight you offered...

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 Post subject: Re: MY dumb questions about the world
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:26 pm 
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Strwarrior wrote:
wont quote so it wont get so big, anyways yeah, it may not seem like there is free will by just reading my comment, you'll have to live here so you'd understand it, the seperation is in some cases, like the waterpark thingy, its mixed and female only days obviously for women's advantage (but the advisor timing is completely something I dont understand, its not even religion related at all)..

well they are not really rules but lets say they are, I myself broke these rules many times, I may not be a good person in that regard but I know what i did wasnt right, that doesnt make me a non-muslim because forgiveness is always there.


Saying it like that makes it appear like a religious cop-out statement....You have a fail-safe backup after doing wrong....just an observation...The impression I get anyways....Either way thx for what little insight you offered...


that safe backup requires me to regret it, not do it again, and pray for forgiveness, if you do it again you dont really have a backup, and if you're bound to hell because u made a mistake then that would be way too much restriction.

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 Post subject: Re: MY dumb questions about the world
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:27 pm 
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Interesting discussion.

It seems like some of you don't believe that genders are different anymore, though? I mean, you can't deny that men and females are different. It's not a thing that can be discussed.

Here in Denmark, there's a very popular tendency to "neutralize" the genders. People with this opinion look down on boys-only or girl-only days, as it wouldn't be fair to judge a boy as being a boy. Why can't he be a girl if he wants to?
It is just really starting to frustrate me that boys can't be boys and girls be girls anymore. Nobody should be oppressed, but why do people try to deny that there's a difference?

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 Post subject: Re: MY dumb questions about the world
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ltsune wrote:
Interesting discussion.

It seems like some of you don't believe that genders are different anymore, though? I mean, you can't deny that men and females are different. It's not a thing that can be discussed.

Here in Denmark, there's a very popular tendency to "neutralize" the genders. People with this opinion look down on boys-only or girl-only days, as it wouldn't be fair to judge a boy as being a boy. Why can't he be a girl if he wants to?
It is just really starting to frustrate me that boys can't be boys and girls be girls anymore. Nobody should be oppressed, but why do people try to deny that there's a difference?


In India they let boys be boys. Women are raped and no one investigates. Hell, there have even been times when police show up to a rape call and rape the women too.


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 Post subject: Re: MY dumb questions about the world
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:43 pm 
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deny that men and females are different.
That doesn't mean you have to... treat someone "badly" regardless of gender !

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 Post subject: Re: MY dumb questions about the world
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:03 pm 
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ltsune wrote:
deny that men and females are different.
That doesn't mean you have to... treat someone "badly" regardless of gender !

I don't think that's what he meant.

Yeah, all this gender neutrality bullshit going on in some scandinavian countries is just silly.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:33 pm 
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ltsune wrote:
Why can't he be a girl if he wants to?

A bit off topic what you're trying to say, buut

You are who you are, but letting a kid decide he wants to be a little girl? Eh, I'm not entirely sure. I wanted to be a dinosaur when I was growing up, but I didn't get my wish. Then to shove meds into the kids mouth to make that choice a reality? Oh boy. God bless these parents

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 Post subject: Re: MY dumb questions about the world
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:49 pm 
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ltsune wrote:
Interesting discussion.

It seems like some of you don't believe that genders are different anymore, though? I mean, you can't deny that men and females are different. It's not a thing that can be discussed.

Here in Denmark, there's a very popular tendency to "neutralize" the genders. People with this opinion look down on boys-only or girl-only days, as it wouldn't be fair to judge a boy as being a boy. Why can't he be a girl if he wants to?
It is just really starting to frustrate me that boys can't be boys and girls be girls anymore. Nobody should be oppressed, but why do people try to deny that there's a difference?


I don't think anyone is truly denying the difference....It's just that placing too much emphasis on the difference between genders by establishing rules/norms/expectations based on sex can (and has) trigger misguided beliefs in some individuals (Discrimination/oppression of the sexes)....We're human beings first and foremost...everything else comes after....

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