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Post subject: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat.  Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:54 pm |
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Quote: Police in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire smashed a car window to 'rescue' a toy dog from the heat after mistaking it for a real one. After a member of the public reported a dog being left locked in a car, two officers confused the King Charles Spaniel toy worth £4.50 ($7.20) for a sleeping dog, according to The Sun. Out of concern for the safety of the animal in the 18°C temperatures, the policemen smashed the window of the Mercedes after attempting to wake the toy. Gordon Williams, 80, who owned the car and toy, returned to find his seat covered in smashed glass and an official police note reading: "Smashed your window re concern for animal on rear seat." Nottinghamshire Police have since agreed to pay £180 ($290) to the retired mining engineer widower so he may replace his window. Read More HereAt least the owner... can see the bigger picture which is great.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:15 pm |
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That musta been a very convincing looking toy....
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:22 am |
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At least the police payed for it.
Where I live a 22-month-old was left in the car for over eight hours in 90F heat. No one noticed, he should have had one of these toys.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:55 am |
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Good cops, say what.
I don't think they should help with that bill but I won't judge them too poorly if they do.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:02 am |
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Love wrote: Good cops, say what.
I don't think they should help with that bill but I won't judge them too poorly if they do. Why shouldn't they?
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:54 am |
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DarkJackal wrote: Love wrote: Good cops, say what.
I don't think they should help with that bill but I won't judge them too poorly if they do. Why shouldn't they? They should definitely have paid without a question. Imagine your house gets mistaken as some sort of drug house and it's raided by swat teams and everything is destroyed, imagine no compensation for that.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:35 am |
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CrimsonNuker wrote: DarkJackal wrote: Love wrote: Good cops, say what.
I don't think they should help with that bill but I won't judge them too poorly if they do. Why shouldn't they? They should definitely have paid without a question. Imagine your house gets mistaken as some sort of drug house and it's raided by swat teams and everything is destroyed, imagine no compensation for that. They had reasonable evidence to break in, sending a swat team is not realistically comparable. This was a fairly open rescue attempt. This would be akin of you having your car full of things that look like a bomb and expecting nothing to be done about it. Is a matter of common sense, the dog rescue attempt is as a reasonable as reasonable evidence gets. They got call, they got to the scene, dog was unresponsive, we don't know about the visibility and the dog does looking extremely real, reaction follows that formula.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:05 am |
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Making a mistake with good intentions doesn't relieve responsibility of the mistake.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:50 am |
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Soo am I the only one wondering why they smashed the window on a 18 degree day? 18 degrees isn't very warm..
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:00 am |
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XMoshe wrote: Soo am I the only one wondering why they smashed the window on a 18 degree day? 18 degrees isn't very warm.. No... no you're not...
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:30 am |
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XMoshe wrote: Soo am I the only one wondering why they smashed the window on a 18 degree day? 18 degrees isn't very warm..
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:15 pm |
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Sanktum wrote: XMoshe wrote: Soo am I the only one wondering why they smashed the window on a 18 degree day? 18 degrees isn't very warm.. Temperature inside a car... can be more than 30 degrees hotter than outside. Imagine... you wearing a "fur coat" in 90 degrees of heat!
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:50 pm |
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*BlackFox wrote: Sanktum wrote: XMoshe wrote: Soo am I the only one wondering why they smashed the window on a 18 degree day? 18 degrees isn't very warm.. Temperature inside a car... can be more than 30 degrees hotter than outside. Imagine... you wearing a "fur coat" in 90 degrees of heat! Yea and there is no fresh cool air if windows are closed. Don't think thermometer is standard issue equipment of police anyway. So guy looked at the sky and made judgement call that it's too hot.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:53 pm |
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^ Meh... An eyewitness may have seen the dog in the car several hours... and called police !
Seriously, It is better to be safe than to be sorry !
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:56 pm |
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CrimsonNuker wrote: They should definitely have paid without a question.
Imagine your house gets mistaken as some sort of drug house and it's raided by swat teams and everything is destroyed, imagine no compensation for that. Close to where I live, the police did a no knock warrant search and seizure. They had bought drugs from the home previously and went back to raid it. Anywho, they threw a flash bang through a window they broke and it landed right next to a sleeping baby. That baby is in critical condition. They didn't find any drugs in the house.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:16 pm |
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DarkJackal wrote: Making a mistake with good intentions doesn't relieve responsibility of the mistake. Mistake was on the part of the owner, you didn't pay too much attention to my response.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:34 pm |
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Love wrote: DarkJackal wrote: Making a mistake with good intentions doesn't relieve responsibility of the mistake. Mistake was on the part of the owner, you didn't pay too much attention to my response. What exactly would qualify as looking like a bomb in a car? A Typical Block of C4 with a timer on it? They didn't have evidence they had speculation. I dunno why they couldn't knock on the window and watch it for a reaction? Or watch it to see if its breathing? Pretty sure a dying dog from heat wouldn't be comfortably snuggled up and not gasping or panting or w/e. It's not against the law to have lifelike resembling objects in your car I would think? If your gonna break someones window to get in and check, you should be sure. And if you think you are and your wrong, You made a mistake. its certainly not he car owners fault. Apparently even the police who broke in the window would think your wrong considering they are willingly paying for it, so ya >.>.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:38 pm |
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*BlackFox wrote: Seriously, It is better to be safe than to be sorry ! 100% agreed.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:29 am |
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You are clearly not familiar with the law, the concept of reasonable evidence escapes you and that is fine. There is also the fact that the law enforcement club isn't a particularly high iq one. No response is still a response and there are several reactions that appropriately follow, rescue being one of them. How you can say there was no evidence is beyond me. Probably best to leave it here in any case.
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 3:13 am |
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Despite the cops good intentions and doing their duty it doesn't absolve them of the error...Police departments have insurance to cover mishaps like this....In their line of work they're mandated to have insurance....There is no argument about them not taking responsibility for their errors...
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:06 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Police break into car to save toy dog from heat. Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:37 am |
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toy dogs dont come cheap 
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