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 Post subject: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:30 am 
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Hello guys

I have a doubt

People say Job Cave farming can easily farm lots of Sp under 10 mins

Is that true? Should i have to be in Job uniform to do it? Need a particular job?
How much SP will i be able to get from this and how fast?

Is it solo or party?

If it is easy that means almost all the people will be FF110

Or is there a special requirement for this?

Sorry about this im damn noob >.>"

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:35 am 
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Hello guys

I have a doubt

People say Job Cave farming can easily farm lots of Sp under 10 mins
Yes, Can be about 6-8k / h if you do it right

Is that true? Should i have to be in Job uniform to do it? Need a particular job?
How much SP will i be able to get from this and how fast?
Any job will do, no special items required. Because you get repeatable quests with no limit. If you do these quest correctly you can easily gain 6-8k / h

Is it solo or party?
Depends on your style, most people use a party. But those are the botters. My suggestion is to go into a high lvl room with no others. This will improve your kill rate by a lot and so does your quest rate.

If it is easy that means almost all the people will be FF110
Yes indeed, it is not that hard. Though most builds need 3-4m sp. And that takes some time

Or is there a special requirement for this?
Level 105 is needed to enter the cave. But on level 100 you can also do some deity quests on alexandria mobs, which are also unlimited repeatable and give 250sp + 5m exp on lvl 100

Sorry about this im damn noob >.>"

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:38 am 
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Thanks for ur fast reply :D

What do you mean "do it right"?

How will they say this in the party matching?

Like Job Cave farming? o.o"

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
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Best shot is by just going there and look for a party. And doing it in a party will go alot faster than grinding solo.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:10 am 
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They usualy random invite every thief or hunter.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:18 am 
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actually I've tested it. Going solo is the fastest way. in pt 8/8 I can gain around maximum 5000sp/hr whereas solo I can gain up to 8k per hour cuz I need a spot where there is no KS.. in our serve the ratio of job cave is 75% hunters and 25% thieves. I chose thieves cuz less KS but we get owned all the time. Most of the time Hunters CAMP at our area cuz if the JOB ranking.

So jobcave farming is not as easy and as fast as before

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
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Job cave farming is the fastest way, but the most irritating or fun way, depending on how you see it.

Why ? You kill mobs. Many do not pick their gold because they want to get sp faster, and concentrate on picking up their quest items. And you also drop SON in caves. I dropped two Euro Son Rings in there. My pet grabs their gold, and I get about 1M a day from all the gold of others. Picking up the gold slows down sp farming, though.

The only problem is --- ATTACKS. If you are a hunter,expect thief raids to come and kill you. and vice versa. Kinda fun also, when the opposing job attacks, and expects you to be afk, thinking you are botting, then you use res scroll, and you suddenly fight back and kill them.

Worst, opposing jobs wait at the gate, or at the teleport, or at the portal, and attack.

THERE IS ONE BIG STUPID MOVE TO ALL THIS KILLING. If thieves keep killing the hunters, the ratio on entering becomes unbalanced, and thieves can not enter the thief portal until there are more hunters. vice versa. So -- yup, go ahead and kill the hunter... have fun... and when you get to town for pots, you can not return back to the job temple unless hunters enter their portal too.

There are also "friendly" situations, where thief and hunter both hunt mobs in the same room and do not attack each other. However, they use single mob attacks only, and wiz are not included. I have seen bladers, xbows, warlocks, all grinding in the same room, and I have just finished my last thief quest yesterday in a hunter room.

Rate of SP? It depends on how many people are grinding in the room, and how near it is to the job npc. The more there are, the less drops there is, and the farther the npc, the longer the farm time.

It is recommended that you start doing repeatable quests starting from lvl 100 until you reach level 105. At lvl 105, you can start your Job quests, and since the reward gives Exp points, you do level up too.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:02 am 
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what ratio are you talking about, cuz afaik sometimes when I enter the cave the ratio was 88% hunter and 12% thief. and still hunters keep entering on the other side. but average ratio in our server is 75% hunters and 25% thieves. The most SAD part of this farming is when wizards set fire traps in the hallway to the npc or 1 full pt of the oppsing job camp at your area.

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jyushinshuu wrote:
what ratio are you talking about, cuz afaik sometimes when I enter the cave the ratio was 88% hunter and 12% thief. and still hunters keep entering on the other side. but average ratio in our server is 75% hunters and 25% thieves. The most SAD part of this farming is when wizards set fire traps in the hallway to the npc or 1 full pt of the oppsing job camp at your area.


Yea its absolutely Sad that 2 oposing jobs attack each other! Thats like totaly not the point of the game the point of the game is not to touch your oposing job and they all can grind next to each other !!...

FFS...
Be glad i'm not in your server.

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Wow thanks for your reply guys will pass it on to my friends :D

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:21 pm 
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jyushinshuu wrote:
what ratio are you talking about, cuz afaik sometimes when I enter the cave the ratio was 88% hunter and 12% thief. and still hunters keep entering on the other side. but average ratio in our server is 75% hunters and 25% thieves. The most SAD part of this farming is when wizards set fire traps in the hallway to the npc or 1 full pt of the oppsing job camp at your area.


Yea its absolutely Sad that 2 oposing jobs attack each other! Thats like totaly not the point of the game the point of the game is not to touch your oposing job and they all can grind next to each other !!...

FFS...
Be glad i'm not in your server.


i actually think this is what joymax wants... think about it.. job gear means hunters have to trade with thieves?!

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
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I'm just saying farming in cave is not as easy before legend 7 update. I myself raid in Hunter's Area frequently. Hunters occupy all the rooms in cave except for the default room for thieves. I hope they put balance and don't let the opposing job with more than 60% to enter so that it will be fair fight.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
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I held (and probably still hold) the title of the number one hunter killer in AEGE. Did that kill 20 hunter quest a ZILLION times and it NEVER upset the balance. Hunters still outnumber the thieves 3-1. On the best days it is still 2-1.


Dutchy is right though. If you go into the job temple expecting to hold hands with the opposite job then you deserve to die repeatedly.


For the tread starter. Grab all five quests from that first NPC and keep cashing them in over and over and over. Make sure u cash in as soon as ur done with one though (IF you are in the first room... other rooms that are farther away from npc u can wait) cuz it will maximize your SP.




*edit to add: For full disclosure Dutchy and I used to have a deal in the job cave to not attack each other. Mostly cuz for almost about 3-4 months we were probably the ONLY chars in there that actually had a human controlling their char. And we both didn't care that the other was killing other hunters/thieves. haha

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
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then you contradict yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
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@SNAPPA77 : It is kinda normal that you don't attack a friend of yours , much like in ctf and battle arena as i just leave my friends and some people that ask not to attack them if they are polite as the last target to hit specially if they are lower in level and don't attack first .

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
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This gives hope to people who are worried bout sp like myself. But at the same time it's discouraging that you have to put up with the hassle while getting it.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
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jyushinshuu wrote:
then you contradict yourself.



True.


I won't speak for Dutchy but for myself I had no problem letting someone (who is doing the EXACT same thing I was doing) get to the job at hand which was killing ppl and p!ssing them off. For the longest time I literally GRINDED just doing that hunter quest over and over again. I killed just about EVERYONE. Union, guild, friends on the server. Everyone who was a hunter I attacked. Dutchy was just as ruthless as a hunter killing thieves. That is why I never felt the need to stop him.


My point earlier is that if you put on a job suit don't cry if you get killed.

It is like those idiots in Sama South in cape that cry when you attack them as they are just sitting out there watching the kokoru's. Don't cape up if ya don't want to fight. Don't leave town in job suit unless you accept the fact you can and will have to fight.


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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
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jyushinshuu wrote:
what ratio are you talking about, cuz afaik sometimes when I enter the cave the ratio was 88% hunter and 12% thief. and still hunters keep entering on the other side. but average ratio in our server is 75% hunters and 25% thieves. The most SAD part of this farming is when wizards set fire traps in the hallway to the npc or 1 full pt of the oppsing job camp at your area.


Then you haven't experienced being stuck outside the job temple, waiting for your turn to get in. If you click the portal, you are told that there are not enough on the other side. If you want to test it out. do this: Go kill all the opposing jobs on the other side, and wait for them to teleport to town. Have someone wait at the portal to kill those getting in. A third player can test it then -- where he clicks the portal -- and he won't be able to get in.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it True? Job Cave farming?
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Lemme add something more about this ratio. When I started farming last September, There were few thieves, but there were some who were 110 ff and full immo set+9 thieves, and would camp at the npc, and kill for an hour or two -- meaning absolutely no hunters at all at the hunter area. The Job wars got worst towards December 2010. Pity those who had to teleport to town for pots --- you have to wait at the portal to get in.

Well, things are pretty much reversed in Pacific Server now... Too many thieves...

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Lemme add something more about this ratio. When I started farming last September, There were few thieves, but there were some who were 110 ff and full immo set+9 thieves, and would camp at the npc, and kill for an hour or two -- meaning absolutely no hunters at all at the hunter area. The Job wars got worst towards December 2010. Pity those who had to teleport to town for pots --- you have to wait at the portal to get in.

Well, things are pretty much reversed in Pacific Server now... Too many thieves...


now I get what you mean, I always been a thief and the highest ratio so I far that I saw was 37% thief and 63% Hunter and the Lowest was 12% Thief and 88% Hunter. When I tried to escape from warrior zerk from hunter NPC, I teleported outside the cave in Hunter's area and there I saw some Hunters lining up in the teleporter waiting to get in. I killed em' all but too bad the quest for hunting 20 hunters only works when inside the cave. =(

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why are hunters always more numerous than thiefs?

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