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 Post subject: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:46 am 
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Okey guys, I know I play as a Blader but I still don't know the answer to this question ^^

So as I'm lvl 80, I get 9 Blocking Rate Increase. And my shield has 19 BR, does that mean I get 28 BR, or do I get 9% from what I already have?

So either I get 28 BR, or I get 20,71.

What's wrong and what's right? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:50 am 
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The skill says that it's 9% increase so u get 20.71 BR.

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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:34 pm 
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I think you get 28% overall block ratio.

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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:36 pm 
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As a 1hand warrior you can actually block attacks without a shield, due to the passive which is also block % increase. so yea, it'll be br 28.


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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:22 pm 
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Okey, what jyushinshuu and futuresight said sounds more likely.

Otherwise I'm gonna collect curst hearts for that shiet ^^

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:26 pm 
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That's the reason why its very hard to kill 11D blader cuz they block a lot. It would be so stupid if it would just add up to the shield's blocking %.

Passive gives you % when you equip a shield to its logical that passive+ shield's blocking rate = overall blocking rate.

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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:16 am 
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Hmm, that's weird, but could be true. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:47 pm 
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Pretty sure it was always just a % increase. The skill isn't very noticeable during the low lvls, but at higher lvls, it's an extra 1-2 BR. Look at the phy BR increase buff. It also says % too. If you took that as an actual value, your BR would be over 50...

There's a big diff between BR 16,18,and 20. 2 BR is quit a bit.

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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:54 pm 
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so at lvl 120 you get 13br increase... and if i was a blader i would work more on my shield then my blade, im pretty confident i could get a br 22+ shield before i got to lvl 120...

so br 35.... lol like 70k hp + repeats of knock downs... bladers just pwn the hell in pvp

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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
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Yeah they'll tank well, but come on... Who are they gonna kill? Haha


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Yeah they'll tank well, but come on... Who are they gonna kill? Haha

Everyone.

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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
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HiggsBoson wrote:
Yeah they'll tank well, but come on... Who are they gonna kill? Haha

Oh, you're one of those people...

I'll tell you what, the only build I can't kill. Is another Blader!

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:41 pm 
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everybody knows that blader can only kill wizards in LT with npc items.

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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:08 am 
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I always thought BR itself was percentage.

BR 20 shield? 20%. With X amount of passive? Well then you suddenly have 32BR at the cap without sun.

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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:57 am 
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Bladers are a pain in the ass when it come to pvp xD They dont hit that hard compared to other build but they got LOADS of def...
Whats the worst of bich,fire, ice and bich, fire and force?


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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:56 pm 
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Bladers are a pain in the ass when it come to pvp xD They dont hit that hard compared to other build but they got LOADS of def...
Whats the worst of bich,fire, ice and bich, fire and force?

Force is only useful against chinese characters. That is, if they're not force either. And of course it works against euros without cleric subs, but those people usually suck so much that it doesn't matter anyway.

Ice is the pro choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Bicheon passive?
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Ppl without cleric subs don't suck, if they know how to play their build that is.

If u have force and can still own ppl with cleric subs, u have made the pro choice. :)

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omier44 wrote:
Ppl without cleric subs don't suck, if they know how to play their build that is.

If u have force and can still own ppl with cleric subs, u have made the pro choice. :)


2h/axes/bard and I won nearly every fight when I used vigors against a cleric. Excluding a good warror and int based characters(This was more or less if I can get a knockdown and stun) during 80/90 cap. Best part was people complaining that I used vigors and grains when people had their sub as cleric and used vigors. Was fun. Wish I had 1h. That would have been great.

Many people were to poor to bother with grains and vigors. Me? Nope unless it was a 1vs1(Grains were expensive. Even if I had a storage filled with hp grains). With my set? Not even. I felt I had the best non sox accessories at every cap. 81%+ with blues maxed out. You bet it was great. People tried to ice me? Oh that was funny when I switched to axes and people go WTF? HOW ARE YOU IMMUNE?

Funny that people used to shit all over my build when me and Orphen made the best duo when thiefing. Ran out of mana? No problem! Tambours? You bet they were useful. Then we had our third player that would join in a lot of times. Full warrior and warlock with us? Just drop dead. Good times.

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