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First of all: YES, I do realize that this section is not the right one for character related questions, but since the correct section is not very active, I was hoping this thread could stay here in the GD.


So, I've been thinking about creating a heavy-hybrid sword / shield nuker lately.
Maybe not a 1:1, but something like 1:2 or 1:3. Now, it may sound like a stupid idea at first,
but I got my inspiration from back in the 80 cap days when a friend of mine had such a char on Xian.
He would upgrade so that he would always have nearly equal amounts of hp and mp (without any gear on), with slightly more mp than hp.

Now, seeing as I've always been a fan of pure builds this sounded quite stupid to me as well, but as far as I remember, he wasn't all that weak, really. Sure, he didn't deal as much damage with nukes as a pure int nuker would do - but he had great survival skills due to the extra hp, which in the end gave him the upper-hand.
Besides, what damage he lacked in nukes, he got back in terms of higher damage on bicheon chains due to the increased str amount!


Now, I would like to know if anyone else have tried a build like this (or something slightly similar)?


Personally, I'm going to create a character on the Play-Venture server, and I was thinking about going with Light/Cold/Sword. Now, before you tell me to go with fire instead, please keep in mind that the cold nukes have been increased on Play-Venture to be equal to the damage of the fire nukes.




So yeah. Any recommendations, thoughts, concerns?

Still, if you're going heavy hybrid, go fire. Phy dmg buff, nukes stronger than light (even with light's mag att buff), mag deff buff, phy att passive and the strongest imbue (I don't know if imbues are changed on Venture).

While it is correct that fire will give phy. damage increase and a mag defense buff, I will not need these all that much now, will I?
I mean, since I am after all still a nuker, I would benefit more from the magical attack increase.
Besides, cold nukes have been made just as strong as the fire nukes, so I'll just be using those instead of the fire nukes.

I'm currently trying to research what the best hybrid build would be. I want to try something different this time around

It is. In PvP you will be using sword skills more than nukes. Besides, even though ice nukes are as strong as fire nukes, it is better to have 2 strong nukes than 1. And lighting's nukes + light mag buff < fire nukes. But, of course, if ice nukes are as strong as fire nukes, than ice nukes + mag att buff > fire nukes.
Fire is better than Light when you're light hybrid, but it's even better if you're heavy hybrid.

He wants to play on Venture, ice nukes are altered, so now they're as strong as fire nukes.

Alright.

You won't deal massive base damage though. I don't think this build will shine too bright unless you have perfect blue gear giving you a ton of extra str/int.

Since he'll play on a private server, I think he'll have full blue gear. Maybe not in the first 2 weeks, but after some time for sure.

Very likely if he plays enough. But it is still something you have to keep in mind so you don't disgard the build after a few levels because of the 'low' damage.

Thanks for the tip, Bartic!

Even though I am going to play on a private server, odds are that I won't have a fully pimped set for a very long time - if ever. Especially as I'm not super active as I once was.

Now, as XMOshe also said, I will obviously not deal as much damage as a pure int nuker. BUT, if I deal enough damage to kill others in PVP anyway, won't the extra hp just make my build even stronger? (we are talking a lot of extra hp as I'll be a very heavy hybrid. Something like 1:1 or 1:2).
I mean, if I'm able to kill them anyway, it will just make my survival skills greater.

Now, the real question is if I'll be able to deal enough damage?

what pserver are you playing, link please. ^_^ & Cap..

I am going to play on Venture (play-venture).

Here's the link to the SRF-thread: viewtopic.php?f=45&t=133845
The official website is: http://www.play-venture.com

You cannot register yet, but the official files have been uploaded already, and the download links can be found on the last page of the silkroadforums thread - or on their own forum.
The registration should open later today, and the server hopefully by tomorrow


It is an 80cap server, with the option to get to 85 through tough quests!




Anyway, any thoughts on my build, folks?

I don't know, I've never played S/S nuker. I'm usually spear nuker. But, I would try something like 1:3 hybrid, not heavier.

I dont have too much experience with this kind of build but I think you won't deal enough damage without decently pimped gear =/ I can give it a quick try on the pserver I play on if you like? Plvl a new char to ~80 see how it does without pimped gear. It wont have the same server features as venture though so it might be a little off. But it can give you an image of how it'll work. You're even welcome to come yourself if you download the client ofcourse haha

That would be simply great, XMoshe!

So, you would be willing to power level a char up to the cap for me?
It will be great if I can even be allowed to log into the char and mess around a bit myself. But it would be much appreciated if you would power level it for me so that I do not have to spend time on leveling it myself.

Could you please let me know which private server you're playing on (maybe in a PM).




Any other ideas, folks? The latest suggestion is a 1:3 hybrid nuker (1 str per 3 int). It sounds reasonable, actually, as it will give me a base balance of: 63% Phys/79% Mag.
If, however, were to go 1:2, it would give me these base stats: 67% Phys/73% Mag.
Still considering what would be best....

Please keep in mind that part of what will make me great is that my chains will hit more, whilst my nukes will still be decent - hopefully. Part of what would make me win is the surprised face of my opponent when he sees that I'm not as easily killed as any other nuker!

With that much str you might not even need that high of a snowshield. You will need fire though to maximize your phy dmg. Depending on the amount of mastery lvls you have I'd say a bich/fire maxed with a mix of light/ice.

Hm, so your balance would be that low? I dislike low balance, regardless of build.

Well he tried it with a 110 char. Only a few str/int and he ended up nuking 109 mobs (with nova sword) for like 10-13k. With a nova+16 sword it went up to maybe 18k but still not even half the mobs hp. He was 1:2 more or less so he definitely needs more int.

I'd prefer a pure int tbh! more fun to play with and (insert whatever silkroad terminology to make you realise its good) bich, light & cold

I had 1:3 spear nuker on salvation. I liked that build a lot. But it doesn't work on every cap.
You should test it on pvp servers.

I tested 1:6 spear nuker on 80 cap server without edits, and it was great. Fire/cold, of course.

1:2 s/s is pretty weak in terms of dmg, even back before snowshield most people were 85-90% s/s, 1:2 was usually for spears.

Id suggest fire/sword/ice/light with ice and light split, since you are so heavily hybrid you dont need all that much phy def/ 50% snow (probably cant use it anyways); + mag. dmg buff/phantom are pretty useful

Thanks for all the suggestions, guys!

Due to the feedback I've gotten and XMoshe's help during the testing phase, I've finally found a build to go with.

I'll make sure to update this thread once I've reached the cap to let you know how it works out.
So far, things are alright. During pve I am able to kill mobs about my level with 2 nukes. With a spot with a great spawn-rate, I can simply stand still (nearly) and just take full advantage of the aoe fire nukes. And I am even able to survive doing so due to the fact that I'm hybrid

So, you went with fire/cold after all or you mixed cold and light?

I went with a combination of Bicheon, Fire, Light and Cold
That + a semi-heavy hybrid build, which I tried to fit as well as possible into my theory of having lots of HP while still dealing enough damage to kill.

As long as you can keep any % balance > 92%, you'll deal quite good damage

people who make hybrids and talk about points instead of balances get on my nerves (a)