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DotCom
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Post subject: 11 lvl difference in powerlvl or more? Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:10 pm |
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So i am powerleveling a friend at Sonars atm when i have some free time. Been at sonars since he was lvl 41 and now he is 46. He is going 0 gap because he wants to farm at cap. Anyways, he noticed that he was getting more exp/sp from normal/pt mobs when he was lvl 41 (16 lvl difference), than he is getting now at lvl 46 (11 lvl difference).
lvl 41 - getting 0.03% from normal mobs and 0.21% from party mobs
lvl 46 - getting 0.02% from normal mobs and 0.09% from party ones
As i've read on the forums, people say 11 lvl difference player - mob gives the max exp/sp possible, and if higher u have an exp penalty. I am confused, can anyone explain?
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Cresta
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:15 pm |
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I think its not the % but the actual Experience points
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Post subject: Re: 11 lvl difference in powerlvl or more? Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:15 pm |
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DotCom wrote: So i am powerleveling a friend at Sonars atm when i have some free time. Been at sonars since he was lvl 41 and now he is 46. He is going 0 gap because he wants to farm at cap. Anyways, he noticed that he was getting more exp/sp from normal/pt mobs when he was lvl 41 (16 lvl difference), than he is getting now at lvl 46 (11 lvl difference).
lvl 41 - getting 0.03% from normal mobs and 0.21% from party mobs lvl 46 - getting 0.02% from normal mobs and 0.09% from party ones
As i've read on the forums, people say 11 lvl difference player - mob gives the max exp/sp possible, and if higher u have an exp penalty. I am confused, can anyone explain?
Well ... I'm getting powerleveled at mages now ... getting 4k exp per normal mob ... they are like lv.78 and I'm 64 ... and when I was getting leveled at snipers (lv.64-65) I got less exp , round 3k .... O.o
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DotCom
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:17 pm |
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[FF]Cresta wrote: I think its not the % but the actual Experience points
Well of course i should get more exp points from higher mobs (imagine yarkan) but wasnt there suposed to be a penalty after 11 lvl diference?
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:26 pm |
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He is higher lvl now, so will get less xp/sxp per kill than he did @ 41. Even though he doesn't have penalty at L46 for the mobs like he did at L41, the mobs are closer to his level and will give him less xp/sxp.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:37 pm |
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yeha i think cap is higher like 15 or 16 difference
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DotCom
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:37 pm |
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justaskphil wrote: He is higher lvl now, so will get less xp/sxp per kill than he did @ 41. Even though he doesn't have penalty at L46 for the mobs like he did at L41, the mobs are closer to his level and will give him less xp/sxp.
So does it mean it would be faster to go powerlvl him at snipers i.e instead of sonars?
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:46 pm |
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well i dont get any good exp at all beeing powerlvled in takla, almost nothing.
im lvl 46
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:43 pm |
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DotCom wrote: justaskphil wrote: He is higher lvl now, so will get less xp/sxp per kill than he did @ 41. Even though he doesn't have penalty at L46 for the mobs like he did at L41, the mobs are closer to his level and will give him less xp/sxp. So does it mean it would be faster to go powerlvl him at snipers i.e instead of sonars?
i'd really like a good straight guide on plevleling. my guildmate is 48 we're at sonars 57. he gains 0.02% ormal mob. he has a 6 mastery gap. i tried onte time to go to the yetis lvl 59-60 and he started getting 0.03% so i said wtf, let's go to snipers. on our way there, the fishes gave him 0.02%, worms gave him 0.02% and snipers, gave him 0.01%
but what the hey, at his level, i can get me 0.02% on a 4 gap. got pissed a bit at the situation.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:46 pm |
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not even gonna read, guild mate expiremented w/ the different lvl gaps, 9 lvls in b/t is the best way to go, try it.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:50 pm |
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I've always had best success with a 10lvl gap when getting powerlvld on my euro character.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:08 pm |
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facts:
Me lvl 46
Pwrlvler lv 64
Penon fighter (54) : 6,000 xp
Sonar (57): 15,000
Me lvl 43
Pwrlvler 64
Penon Fighter (54): 12,000 xp
Sonar (57): dont know, 12 k was enough for me
So I level 3 levels and I lose 6,000 xp on every pt mob. 11 lvls really is the best difference. I once tried to go on mobs 10 lvls higher and they only gave me 60% of what I got on mobs 11 lvsl higher
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:28 pm |
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Quote: lvl 41 - getting 0.03% from normal mobs and 0.21% from party mobs lvl 46 - getting 0.02% from normal mobs and 0.09% from party ones That's normal. It's just like saying u got 20% exp per kill at lvl 1 and and 16% exp per kill at lvl 2 by hunting same mob. Quote: As i've read on the forums, people say 11 lvl difference player - mob gives the max exp/sp possible, and if higher u have an exp penalty. I am confused, can anyone explain?
It's 10 lvl difference ie if u are lvl 10, someone pwrlvl u at mob lvl 20 will give the max exp.
Higher than 10, u receive penalty
Lower than your lvl, u also receive penalty.
So... the max exp happens when 8 players same lvl (each one give 2.5% exp bonus) pwrlvl each other and hunt mob higher 10 lvl.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:37 pm |
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From my experience in powerlvling, its 11 lvls, at 12 its gets a little less, 10 also.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:55 pm |
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Hey Dari (lol)
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:47 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:39 pm |
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only thing you really need to remember is that better spawn rate = better xp. That, and if you can get someone 10 lvls or so lower than the char being plvled, they will get double the xp on the party mobs.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:14 pm |
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1) Were there more ppl in the party when he was 46?
2) Very true you should go to Karra's now since your 46. WAY more exp. You will need to move out of Karra's near 58, Then move Guards, then snipers, then rotate to Mages/Shaman.
3)It's around 15-17 levels difference, not 11. Used to be, not anymore. 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:24 pm |
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i think the reason is that although you get more exp at lvl46 (because of the 11 lvl gap), it takes wayyyyy more exp in total to lvl up. so every kill accounts for less % in the total exp.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:29 pm |
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I just tested adding a lvl 25 while pling alvl 37 on mujigis, and the pt mob exp went form 3k to 7k ;d.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:50 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: Quote: lvl 41 - getting 0.03% from normal mobs and 0.21% from party mobs lvl 46 - getting 0.02% from normal mobs and 0.09% from party ones That's normal. It's just like saying u got 20% exp per kill at lvl 1 and and 16% exp per kill at lvl 2 by hunting same mob. Quote: As i've read on the forums, people say 11 lvl difference player - mob gives the max exp/sp possible, and if higher u have an exp penalty. I am confused, can anyone explain? It's 10 lvl difference ie if u are lvl 10, someone pwrlvl u at mob lvl 20 will give the max exp. Higher than 10, u receive penalty Lower than your lvl, u also receive penalty. So... the max exp happens when 8 players same lvl (each one give 2.5% exp bonus) pwrlvl each other and hunt mob higher 10 lvl.
Wholy crap. A gazillion posts on this subject and everyone gave half true answers. Then comes NuclearSilo and all is good in the world. I have been going crazy trying to figure this out and everything you say makes sense. Does that 2.5% only come into play on party mobs or all mobs?
Tomiotar. Even if the person powerlvling is within 20 lvls there is still a reduction of XP on mobs higher than 10. (at least regular mobs, didn't test on party)
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:54 pm |
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The difference is 11 levels.
Also i've noticed that when im p-lvling and adding 3 or more newbies in my party, the exp/sp from a pt mob doubles. This sometimes happens with only 2. Every other party member i add after that gives me less exp/sp.
So it's not like every pt member gives me 2.5%, there is a certain threshold where the exp doubles from PT mobs only, the exp from regular mobs only goes less when i add more party members
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:30 pm |
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justaskphil wrote: He is higher lvl now, so will get less xp/sxp per kill than he did @ 41. Even though he doesn't have penalty at L46 for the mobs like he did at L41, the mobs are closer to his level and will give him less xp/sxp. BuLLeTz wrote: 12 or less lol noob IZerkNoobz wrote: 20 is what you need
lol bigger noob
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:57 pm |
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party mob exp is calculated based upon the levels of the players within the party. i dont know the exact formula but from experience, when i was in a pt penon party with 2 low lvls being plvled, party mob exp was high, but when they left the party mob exp decreased by 2. so..party mob exp depends on the levels but dont really know the formula, probably if avg party lvl is 11 lvls below the mob party mob exp will be at its greatest. iono
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:42 pm |
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Hellraider wrote: The difference is 11 levels.
Also i've noticed that when im p-lvling and adding 3 or more newbies in my party, the exp/sp from a pt mob doubles. This sometimes happens with only 2. Every other party member i add after that gives me less exp/sp.
So it's not like every pt member gives me 2.5%, there is a certain threshold where the exp doubles from PT mobs only, the exp from regular mobs only goes less when i add more party members
10LVL difference is ideal for mob to the person being plvled. 11lvls will be when the penalty kicks in.
The 2.5% was referring to everyone in the party being the same lvl. Not in a powerlvl situation. I am also guessing that the 2.5% refers to regular mobs only, though I am not sure.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:05 pm |
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I've always heard the person you are power leveling will get the most exp per kill at mobs 11 levels higher than him. So if he's lvl 34, take him out to the lvl 45 ultra blood flowers outside Hotan. After 11 levels, exp per kill decreases.
That's my understanding of it anyway.
Off topic to the main question, but related story:
The other day, I was in an 8-man party at the mujigis. We were all in the range of lvl 45 - 53. Some lvl 64 glavier came by and joined our party. I thought cool he can help us....
He didn't do much killing, then left the party. His lvl 34 friend came tracing him on a horse, and the 64 glavier kept PMing me telling me to take my party elsewhere or he'll KS because he's plvling his friend. He kept trying to KS our pt giants, but when he tried, I just repeatedly knocked it down and double stabbed it. True, the rest of my party couldn't get in any hits, but I didn't want him getting any exp for it either. My party would still get exp from it.
He only spoke German, I don't, but I used a translator website to basically tell him in German "Do you even understand how power leveling works?" After that, he just shut up and leveled his friend for about 10 minutes a distance away from us.
And people wonder why a lot of us don't like power leveling..... 
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