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 Post subject: hybrid nuker skill help
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:42 am 
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making myself a lil 5int:1 str s/s hybrid. what is the best elements.. i know lightning has the buffs and speed so forth, cold has defensive and fire has the status ailment thing... but i fail in deciding between two of them... oh the bloody possibilities.

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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:18 am 
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fire is really for the extra def, I would say get light and ice. Simply bcoz light has mag dmg buff and as a 5:1 ur dmg will be low

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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:50 am 
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If you were fire/cold, you have immunity, 3 nukes that can max at 110 (1899~3166[263%]), 109 (1846~3077[315%]), and 110 (1899~3166[330%])(each with their own individual usefulness, all with a longer attacking range than any lightning nuke), a more powerful imbue, magical defense(which you will have less of than a pure int), fire wall, and physical damage increase buff and passive(good for you because you have more str than a pure int.)

If you decide on light/ice, you get speed(saves some money or time), the dash(great to catch up to people), 1 lightning nuke that maxes at 106 (1582~2938[300%]), your next best maxes at 86 (876~1627[300%]), magical damage increase buff(lightning's best perk, helps hybrids sport their nuker side), both a parry rate buff and passive(reduces damage you take whether physical or magical), a weaker imbue(but can hit multiple targets, progressively weaker), and lion shouts(rarely used in pvp, good for plvling or taking down an enemy firewall.)

So really, I think that fire/ice is going to be your best bet for 1v1 pvp situations, and lightning is best for group pvp, like FW, CTF, and battle arena(however if a light/ice ever came to a direct 1v1 pvp in any of these situations, a fire/ice could get the job done better than light/ice.)

IMO: fire/ice ftw


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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:31 am 
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well the way im thinking if i go cold/light i would use cold imbue and if i went fire/cold ill go fire imbue. still cant decide on either. i like the speed but the str of fire... as a nuker i probably cant give up cold...

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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
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no u cant give up cold and tbh with the buff light will have more dmg to you. Yes you lose immunity and fire wall and have to use 2 nukes instead of 3, but as a 5:1 you already have more def than a pure int.

Well its my personal opinion but you would do better with light as your main tree than fire.

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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
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roe2121 wrote:
well the way im thinking if i go cold/light i would use cold imbue

lightning imbue is really good, and worth it, cold i dont think should ever be a primary imbue especially with holy spell and whatnot

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tbh with the buff light will have more dmg to you.

Yes, the light/ice will hit harder(magically).

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Yes you lose immunity and fire wall and have to use 2 nukes instead of 3, but as a 5:1 you already have more def than a pure int.


You actually have less defense(magical) than a pure int, you have more more physical def and hp, so really, you can give up some cold for lightning. Overall it would look like 110 weapon, 110 fire, 82 cold(167 phys def increase and 50% snow), and 28 lightning(28 parry rate increase and 7% magical damage increase)

Or some other combination, maybe 8 or 9% magical damage inc. with less cold

Here's their combinations...
Light lvl. 8 3% mag & Cold lvl. 102 60% snow
Light lvl. 11 4% mag & Cold lvl. 99 55% snow
Light lvl. 14 5% mag & Cold lvl. 96 55% snow
Light lvl. 28 7% mag & Cold lvl. 82 50% snow
Light lvl. 31 8% mag & Cold lvl. 79 45% snow
Light lvl. 34 10% mag & Cold lvl. 76 45% snow
Light lvl. 48 12% mag & Cold lvl. 62 40% snow


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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:02 am 
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its going to be a sword and shield nuker so i can make up for the mag def loss there. but question is ice really only used for snow shield now?

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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
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snow and the phys def+passive

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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
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ice imbue for fighting people who arent immune or in a struggling party to freeze the mobs, and icewall is helpful too


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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:26 am 
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would the 82 cold and 28 light be a viable build?.

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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
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5:1 is pretty hybrid, I'd go with more light. Something around 40 atleast, preferably even 50.

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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
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so more the 48 light and cold 62? is that enough in the cold tree? or do i just go to useing fire nukes and sword skills later levels?

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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
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You're always going to use fire, for both imbue and nukes. Lightning is only there for parry and magic inc. Like XMoshe said, that is a pretty heavy hybrid, so cold isnt needed as much, i think the 48&62 would be good for you.


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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
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awesome might push it to the 50/60 so i can get the extra parry passive.

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 Post subject: Re: hybrid nuker skill help
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roe2121 wrote:
so more the 48 light and cold 62? is that enough in the cold tree? or do i just go to useing fire nukes and sword skills later levels?


I would just make it easy and stick to 50/60. I played a very slightly hybrid s/s at 100 cap with 60/40 Ice/Light and it did great. And it was VERY slightly hybrid, maybe like 5 lvl's of str. So you as a 5:1 hybrid will do perfectly with 40% snow and the extra 10 lvl's in light. If you feel your dmg is too low you can even try to switch them going 60/50 Light/Ice or 55/55.

Yeah personally I think 5:1 is a bit too hybrid, but it can work out I guess.

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