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 Post subject: Another warlock question!
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:44 pm 
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I played my 'force' blader to like lvl 25 now but its just to boring to train a blader! I still love them but its to slow for me.

Now I got the idea to go with warlock. I dunno what sub I should take. Im thinking of warrior or cleric?

Its pure hp against pure int.

And is an euro char be able to hold himself without an cleric as sub because they got an skill for the 15 sec pot delay but a warrior/warlock has some nice defences i guess?

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:52 pm 
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I had a Warrior/Warlock and have gotta say its the most badass build out there. IMO they can survive just fine with the constant stun/sleep/kb/kd/hp drain and whatnot.

Also, vigors help A LOT!

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:21 pm 
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I had a Warrior/Warlock and have gotta say its the most badass build out there. IMO they can survive just fine with the constant stun/sleep/kb/kd/hp drain and whatnot.

Also, vigors help A LOT!

And then a cleric sub walks by...

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
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And then a cleric sub walks by...


and the cleric dies !

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
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and the cleric dies !

after killing the warrior .

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:12 am 
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AND THEN HERE COMES FORCE GLAIVE FTW!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
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AND THEN HERE COMES FORCE GLAIVE FTW!!!

and then the glaiver dies from a warlock !

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
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speaking from the experience that i had from my lvl 70 warlock/cleric, i'd go warrior/warlock if i were you.

Warrior is an offensive sub (lets take the symbol + for offensive subs)
Warlock is an offensive sub
Cleric is a defensive sub (symbol - for it)

+ and + = ++, u'll do so much dmg in pvp
+ and - = /, you'll be fine but it'll depend on ur equips more

if you are pvp orientated then really, go for warrior. :) you'll have an easier time looking for a party as a warrior compared to a warlock imo. its VERY tiring to train a warlock/cleric, where you have to debuff every single mob and wait for them to die, and hope no one touches ur mob until u're done. maybe thats my flaw in training or something :\

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:25 am 
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I played my 'force' blader to like lvl 25 now but its just to boring to train a blader! I still love them but its to slow for me.

Now I got the idea to go with warlock. I dunno what sub I should take. Im thinking of warrior or cleric?

Its pure hp against pure int.

And is an euro char be able to hold himself without an cleric as sub because they got an skill for the 15 sec pot delay but a warrior/warlock has some nice defences i guess?

~JarJar


warrior sub is better for 1v1 and cleric is better in groups imo

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
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I had a Warrior/Warlock and have gotta say its the most badass build out there. IMO they can survive just fine with the constant stun/sleep/kb/kd/hp drain and whatnot.

Also, vigors help A LOT!


no, just no

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:14 am 
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Guys, still dont know what to pick?

I think warlock you are more assured because of the cleric but its still pure int so dont really get much hp points.

I think that a warrior/warlock has more hp but your are less assured because of no cleric sub.

Help me pleaseeeee :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
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does this help with the answer you're looking for?

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:39 am 
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If you only care about PVP then I think warrior/warlock might suit you better, just be prepared to pay for hp/vigor grains, speed pots, and pills. Warlock/cleric is great vs Chinese, but there's very little that that they can do against a warrior/cleric or rogue/cleric (given similar equipment). Even a wiz/cleric would be able to kill you if stun resists.

A skillful warrior/warlock should be able to hold their own against all euro builds with a cleric sub, although they might not win. I guess their downfall would be an archer or nuker with fire wall.

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
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Apollion wrote:
AND THEN HERE COMES FORCE GLAIVE FTW!!!

and then the glaiver dies from a warlock !


Is this the full story? :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:30 am 
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jarjar75 wrote:
Guys, still dont know what to pick?

I think warlock you are more assured because of the cleric but its still pure int so dont really get much hp points.

I think that a warrior/warlock has more hp but your are less assured because of no cleric sub.



I'd personally go with the Warrior/Warlock ... Is it less assured of surviving? Not exactly. Yes, a warrior/cleric would have an easier time surviving, but it's just like a Warrior/Rogue build: In pvp, it's more reliant (at least against the cleric subs) on the use of hp/vigor grains to survive, granted you're not full Sun+7 against people in far lesser compared gear ...lol

Just a note, grains are the fastest way to recover full HP in the game ...that and the fact it's a 4 sec delay compared to the normal pot's 15 sec for euros, it helps quite nicely, at times.

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 Post subject: Re: Another warlock question!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:51 am 
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Warrior shouldn't be your sub.It should be your main mastery. I also like warrior/warlock, but if you want warlock as your main, go with cleric. Or maybe bard for speed and noise. Anyway, don't take warrior just for sub.

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