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 Post subject: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:00 pm 
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Title says it all. If Euro include sub.

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:13 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:18 pm 
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You dont need to bump every 10min -.- You only need to do it when ur post is not at the first page, and only if you really need.

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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:banghead: When will people get it through there mind! All Are Equal, Its the way you play that matters.

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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nohunta wrote:
:banghead: When will people get it through there mind! All Are Equal, Its the way you play that matters.


no some are better in pvp than pve and some are better in pve than pvp

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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Verfo wrote:
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:banghead: When will people get it through there mind! All Are Equal, Its the way you play that matters.


no some are better in pvp than pve and some are better in pve than pvp

But all of them are good at everything as long as you know how to use yours. It is the way you play that matters.

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:13 pm 
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Verfo wrote:
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:banghead: When will people get it through there mind! All Are Equal, Its the way you play that matters.


raphaell666 wrote:
no some are better in pvp than pve and some are better in pve than pvp





I agree..some have their advantages and disadvantages..






But all of them are good at everything as long as you know how to use yours. It is the way you play that matters.











.pvp or pve more often at sg or where ever pvp/pve takes place

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Could you please rewrite your reply? Im not understanding it.

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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nohunta wrote:
:banghead: When will people get it through there mind! All Are Equal, Its the way you play that matters.


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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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:banghead: When will people get it through there mind! All Are Equal, Its the way you play that matters.


+1


Offtopic:Omg what is that dude/chick punching???

Ontopic:All r equal but if u must rogue/cleric.

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It is only equal for chinese. Europeans are specialist, so they're not equal. A Wizard can do some things a Warrior can't and vice-versa. Best Solo PvP for European is 1h/2h Cleric.

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I fking love my rogue / cleric.
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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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Rogue

But good luck finding parties. Even with a sub, people rarely find them useful pt play.


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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:04 pm 
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Bump.

What I mean is, for what specific advantages does each class have and why!?!

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:14 pm 
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I recommend reading a guide on every single build if you plan on trying to decide.
I'll lead you in the general direction.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=62280
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=77293
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=76723
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=84490
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=87120
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=58269
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59156
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=51426

Not every build but you can find most of them in the guides section. Not too many good guides for hybrid Ints and Glaive guides. The Glaive guide has many things I question and there just isnt that many Hybrid guides. Not many blade guides. Most of the best guides are Euro.

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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nohunta wrote:
:banghead: When will people get it through there mind! All Are Equal, Its the way you play that matters.

he said the BEST PVP CLASS, not the BEST CLASS. at pvp, not everyone is equal. a warrior/cleric is much better than a int spear. u cant say rogue is not gonna 1hit a wiz -.-.
so read the title properly before posting.

i think 2h/cleric are the best pvpers. they have recovery division, bless, skins, and crazy high dmg. in other words, they are a pawnage build 8). i think bladers are very good pvpers too. and warlock/cleric are pretty good if they are lucky when using their stun.

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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nohunta wrote:
:banghead: When will people get it through there mind! All Are Equal, Its the way you play that matters.

he said the BEST PVP CLASS, not the BEST CLASS. at pvp, not everyone is equal. a warrior/cleric is much better than a int spear. u cant say rogue is not gonna 1hit a wiz -.-.
so read the title properly before posting.

i think 2h/cleric are the best pvpers. they have recovery division, bless, skins, and crazy high dmg. in other words, they are a pawnage build 8). i think bladers are very good pvpers too. and warlock/cleric are pretty good if they are lucky when using their stun.

All builds are equal at pvp if you know how to use it. A warrior Cleric is just as good as a blader, as good wizard etc...
The list goes on, its all about strategy.

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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2H warrior/cleric or 1H warrior/warlock, cleric cover a few defensive weaknesses and warlock destroys your enemy stats.
About jobbing we should specify wich job, a warrior is not the most suitable build for thief for example, a rogue or wizard would be most suited to be a thief.
IMO warrior is the best pvp/hunter/trader build, rogue is the best thief build but they also do very well as hunters.
Every build is equal BUT some builds are most suited than others for a certain style of pvp, in the end its all about skill.

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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nohunta wrote:
:banghead: When will people get it through there mind! All Are Equal, Its the way you play that matters.

he said the BEST PVP CLASS, not the BEST CLASS. at pvp, not everyone is equal. a warrior/cleric is much better than a int spear. u cant say rogue is not gonna 1hit a wiz -.-.
so read the title properly before posting.

i think 2h/cleric are the best pvpers. they have recovery division, bless, skins, and crazy high dmg. in other words, they are a pawnage build 8). i think bladers are very good pvpers too. and warlock/cleric are pretty good if they are lucky when using their stun.

All builds are equal at pvp if you know how to use it. A warrior Cleric is just as good as a blader, as good wizard etc...
The list goes on, its all about strategy.


That only applies to Chinese. With Europeans their nature forces them to be good at some things during PvP while sucking hard at others. :) Chinese are well-rounded, and get better with each skill update.

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This is for jobing
On older servers it is most of they time a S/S nuker that is best but ofcourse if he goes vs a euro pt he is down but if u go on babel or someting almost no euro pt.on venus etc with full time bles i tink wizards

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 Post subject: Re: Best PVP/Jobbing Class?
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Its the way you fight wich makes you the "best" jobber/pvp'er.
Its not about pushing all the buttons like an idiot, try to think before you push.
Maybe this is also why I think european chars can be better jobbers/pvp'ers then chinese characters.

Correct me if I'm wrong but from experience I learned that with a european char you need more thinking, mostly couse the pot delay you just cant spamn buttons all the time.

This makes european chars more carefull, and some more hit and run.
Wich is very smart couse a criminal also dont stay on the place where the crime happend :P

This is why I think a Roque has the best chance as a thief, just turn invissible kill the trader get the loot and turn invisseble again.
Same for wizards although wizard can better be hunters in my opinion.
A 2H/cleric (warrior overall) is a perfect build for a trader couse they can have the thiefspawn.

This is what I learned from experience, like I said correct me if I'm wrong so we can discuss it :D

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Blader is freaking awesome in pvp and jobbing :)

*granted I am a bit biased but w/e* :wink:

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Bump.

What I mean is, for what specific advantages does each class have and why!?!


1h at pvp&jobing = survive longer help u fighting alot of ppls and kill them but not alot 2~3 ints kill him and he is slow if u take bard as subclass would be great

2h at pvp&jobing = best STR damege in euro but very slow (big delay between skills) survive but not alot and slow

duel axe at pvp&jobing = more like rouge damage dealer but not very big damage also slow due to (set)

XBow at pvp&jobing = best range in hole game big damage made if u do the Xbow Extrem (XE) but the skill have to take half health and some phy/mag defence which make u very weak .. and if not used this skill then u r worthless :D

daggers at pvp&jobing = best damage dealer in game attack faster than anyone but u must do Dagger Despert (DD) (more like XE) but this dont take health BUT take 75% of ur phy/mag. defence (means this not good)

Wizard at pvp&jobing = best 1hit Killer in game (great damage) BUT u must attack first he also use's (life control or life turnover)which both take half of ur health for more power (this is skills is useless with defence even if the wizard didnt do it anyone can one hit him :D)so ppl walk with it if no u will be killed with 1 hit too :twisted:

Warlock at pvp&jobing = i didnt tesst so i dont know anything but what i think that he has shield and int damage then i guss he is good but he must have some impurties :D

Cleric/Bard at pvp = they are great in healping alot of ppl but dont damage

Cleric/Bard at jobing = if solo in jobing u will be useless by urself
if in pt u will be their great helper see some youtube videos about trades with cleric .. the man is like thir GOd no one get killed if there is a good cleric with a trade

as for chinese they are great becuz of fast poting :D and for int thir forces are the best thing but the bad thing is how u make this forces be ur helpfull skills as euro as for str they survive alot (for glaiver due to the bigest hp in game .. blader shield .. bow his range is the offence and the defence :D )

i hope i helped u thnx

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It is only equal for chinese. Europeans are specialist, so they're not equal. A Wizard can do some things a Warrior can't and vice-versa. Best Solo PvP for European is 1h/2h Cleric.


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Even when you get the best pvp/jobbing class, it all comes down to how good you are at it. The player is what makes to be the best not the character.

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For thieving, and for cape pvp outside of towns. I want to level fast. And survive. That's it, I dont care about uniques or high lvl uniques or fw. Just small group pvp, leveling, and survivabillity.

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ok no build is the best,one build is just better than another
like water<lighning<earth<fire<water<light<earth<fire.....
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