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 Post subject: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:04 pm 
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What the title says, if you donr know what is it, its the skill where u reduce ur defence for dmg.

And for sure, for a balder.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:24 pm 
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I dont have a blader but i'd say yeah, since (im pretty sure) the defence % lost from the shield is only phy defense, very useful against wizzies/nukers, and against other builds when you use it along with snow shield

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 Post subject: Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:14 pm 
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Strwarrior wrote:
What the title says, if you donr know what is it, its the skill where u reduce ur defence for dmg.

And for sure, for a balder.

Yes. I just got my blader to lvl 80 today (on iSRO) and I've maxed it out so far. But I think I'm going to leave it at 80. IMO it only gets worse after 80.

So if I were you, get it to 80 and then leave it :)

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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 Post subject: Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:25 pm 
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Why would i leave it at 80?, it costs 54k sp (the whole tree).
Also im not only thinkng about pvp, ifs about grinding i think it would help, and in pvp, at least when u get ur debuffs ready on some1, use it, kd and wish for a smexy crit :).

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 Post subject: Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:27 am 
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Strwarrior wrote:
Why would i leave it at 80?, it costs 54k sp (the whole tree).
Also im not only thinkng about pvp, ifs about grinding i think it would help, and in pvp, at least when u get ur debuffs ready on some1, use it, kd and wish for a smexy crit :).

Well because I think the ratio between physical defense removed and physical attack gained get worse after lvl 80.

And at lvl 120 when you get the last one, it removes 100% of your shield for 160 physical attack. 160 physical attack at 120 just isn't that much...

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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 Post subject: Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:17 am 
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Strwarrior wrote:
Why would i leave it at 80?, it costs 54k sp (the whole tree).
Also im not only thinkng about pvp, ifs about grinding i think it would help, and in pvp, at least when u get ur debuffs ready on some1, use it, kd and wish for a smexy crit :).

Well because I think the ratio between physical defense removed and physical attack gained get worse after lvl 80.

And at lvl 120 when you get the last one, it removes 100% of your shield for 160 physical attack. 160 physical attack at 120 just isn't that much...

True, but at 100 it removes ~80%, and gives 155~, and as unbeatabledevil stated, it still works vs some builds xd,
Im still actually thinking to make my farmer a blader or a hyb int spear

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 Post subject: Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:07 pm 
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Blader would be much more useful in fortress war.


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 Post subject: Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:25 pm 
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fckerr wrote:
Blader would be much more useful in fortress war.

What do you mean? ^^ You kinda posted half of a sentence :P Unless you mean should, instead of would? =)

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

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 Post subject: Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:34 pm 
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ĪDK, both spear and blader cost almost the same amount of sp, ill see when i finish farming.

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