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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:27 am 
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Pure Int Spear is the strongest Chinese build


Hmm.. :roll:

He meant highest damage dealing I guess :\

OnT: I'd usually prefer to go a lil hybrid, but the guide looks awesome ;)

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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This is a really nice guide, but i have 1 question.

Im Pure Int Spear Nuker too, but i think Armor is much better than Protector, isnt it?

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:59 am 
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This is a really nice guide, but i have 1 question.

Im Pure Int Spear Nuker too, but i think Armor is much better than Protector, isnt it?


i guess that depends on where you're grinding/ who you're fighting. i like prot because its balanced.

you're probably following the "ints have low hp so they need high defense" myth. and thats what it is, a myth. as you probably noticed most people at cap use garms or prot. rarely armor, theres a reason for that

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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Don't know how u got these stats with a FULL INT Spear:
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20 start stat points
99x lvl up makes => 119str & 119int + 297int => 119str & 416int
no clothes full int (just nakes, also no masteries)

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FB set makes an additional 66str & 66int:

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And add extra 3x 850 hp&mp (2550)
13139 + 2550 = 15689hp
34234 + 2550 = 36784mp

Heuksal lvl 100 Passive = 3800hp brings ur total to:
19489hp & 36784mp

(gdf, avatar, premium, devil spirit can increase str/int & hp/mp)


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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in my opinion i think a 9:1 hybrid spear nuker would be better in pvp and pve more hp and the damage wont be that much different


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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in my opinion i think a 9:1 hybrid spear nuker would be better in pvp and pve more hp and the damage wont be that much different


This is my build, and I love it.. However I regret using protector instead of garment.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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why? protector is good your almost pure int you need more phy defense


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:22 am 
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My pure int garm does fine with her +5 set >.< Also garm looks sexier :D

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:41 am 
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My pure int garm does fine with her +5 set >.< Also garm looks sexier :D


Lies, armor is the smexiest. Especially at 10d!

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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imo protector looks best :D

But armor is necessary for pure int spear :P

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imo protector looks best :D

But armor is necessary for pure int spear :P


Let me refer back to this:

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you're probably following the "ints have low hp so they need high defense" myth. and thats what it is, a myth. as you probably noticed most people at cap use garms or prot. rarely armor, theres a reason for that

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nice guide ^^

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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Tsume wrote:
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imo protector looks best :D

But armor is necessary for pure int spear :P


Let me refer back to this:

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you're probably following the "ints have low hp so they need high defense" myth. and thats what it is, a myth. as you probably noticed most people at cap use garms or prot. rarely armor, theres a reason for that


No no, I don't believe in myths like that.I just think that armor would be the best for pure int spear, because spear has its 15sec buff which highly increases its mag defense.imo a good combination which I'm going to test with my 70:70spear , since warriors, rouges and bowers do high damage.

btw great guide :)

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I killed a bower in next degree on my pure int spear and I'm using garm >.< I can tank with it so not switching anytime soon.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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Honestly at 100 cap there is no need to take Ice to 100, the 50% snow shield at Lv 90 Ice is more than enough. Use those extra 10 masteries for Fire 10, that way you still keep some immunity to bad statuses.


what about the passive its pretty useful agaisnt Pure STR too and plus i dont think that 10 mastery gonan help from bad status more then surviving from Passive

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Honestly at 100 cap there is no need to take Ice to 100, the 50% snow shield at Lv 90 Ice is more than enough. Use those extra 10 masteries for Fire 10, that way you still keep some immunity to bad statuses.


what about the passive its pretty useful agaisnt Pure STR too and plus i dont think that 10 mastery gonan help from bad status more then surviving from Passive


With 89 Ice/11 Fire you can be immune if you have 20% reduce on every stat and part. Besides 89 snow is like 53% not 50% ^_^

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Honestly at 100 cap there is no need to take Ice to 100, the 50% snow shield at Lv 90 Ice is more than enough. Use those extra 10 masteries for Fire 10, that way you still keep some immunity to bad statuses.


what about the passive its pretty useful agaisnt Pure STR too and plus i dont think that 10 mastery gonan help from bad status more then surviving from Passive


With 89 Ice/11 Fire you can be immune if you have 20% reduce on every stat and part. Besides 89 snow is like 53% not 50% ^_^


It's true that lvl 100 snow shield is not required, but as Tiffany pointed out the extra physical defense might be better.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:06 am 
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As a pure int I'd take fire over light anyways. Pure int, spear, the dmg is high already so why not get some extra mag def/immunity/fire wall instead of even more dmg. (yes the dmg is good, I have a heuk/fire/ice myself)

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As a pure int I'd take fire over light anyways. Pure int, spear, the dmg is high already so why not get some extra mag def/immunity/fire wall instead of even more dmg. (yes the dmg is good, I have a heuk/fire/ice myself)


Well you make a good point, but I think Heuk/Ice/Light is the safest to go. IMO Weap/Fire/Ice is more of a str build.

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As a pure int I'd take fire over light anyways. Pure int, spear, the dmg is high already so why not get some extra mag def/immunity/fire wall instead of even more dmg. (yes the dmg is good, I have a heuk/fire/ice myself)


Well you make a good point, but I think Heuk/Ice/Light is the safest to go. IMO Weap/Fire/Ice is more of a str build.


I got massive def and 1hit mobs same lvl or even a bit above with an average +5 spear.

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As a pure int I'd take fire over light anyways. Pure int, spear, the dmg is high already so why not get some extra mag def/immunity/fire wall instead of even more dmg. (yes the dmg is good, I have a heuk/fire/ice myself)


Well you make a good point, but I think Heuk/Ice/Light is the safest to go. IMO Weap/Fire/Ice is more of a str build.


I got massive def and 1hit mobs same lvl or even a bit above with an average +5 spear.


Aha. But how do you do in pvp? By the way, I'm not saying Ice/Light is better, I'm actually interested as to how Fire/Ice does in pvp ^^

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Well you make a good point, but I think Heuk/Ice/Light is the safest to go. IMO Weap/Fire/Ice is more of a str build.


I got massive def and 1hit mobs same lvl or even a bit above with an average +5 spear.


Aha. But how do you do in pvp? By the way, I'm not saying Ice/Light is better, I'm actually interested as to how Fire/Ice does in pvp ^^


I pvped a next degree bower and I won in a garm set. We both had prem+/devil etc. I can tank well with snow, without it's a 1hit/2hit ofc but I managed to survive one time by equipping shield and casting ice wall, then spear and ghost xD

It does really well in pvp IMO, I can kill most people my lvl and even above my own lvl. Maybe they suck or I'm just so strong I dunno, I don't really have special gear or something =/

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How fast does this build level up compared to other builds (time-wise)?

And in terms of farming... for the non-option and optional stuff, what routes would you take, like at what levels would you farm x amount of SP, etc.


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How fast does this build level up compared to other builds (time-wise)?

And in terms of farming... for the non-option and optional stuff, what routes would you take, like at what levels would you farm x amount of SP, etc.


TBH Ice/Light lvls faster than Fire/Ice, no significant damage difference but the moving speed makes all the difference, and let's face it you won't be able to buy speed pots from lvl 1.

If you really want to cut down on sp cost only get all light skills (they're necessary), snow shield, soul spear series and ghost spear series. (And passives) This is probably the most sp friendly build but not so much fun.

Also you should just farm it all at once at Ongs. Wouldn't bother with it at higher lvls, just takes too damn long.

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I was, but got the char from a friend and I plvled it so meh xD But the phantom will help alot in PvE

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How fast does this build level up compared to other builds (time-wise)?

And in terms of farming... for the non-option and optional stuff, what routes would you take, like at what levels would you farm x amount of SP, etc.


TBH Ice/Light lvls faster than Fire/Ice, no significant damage difference but the moving speed makes all the difference, and let's face it you won't be able to buy speed pots from lvl 1.

If you really want to cut down on sp cost only get all light skills (they're necessary), snow shield, soul spear series and ghost spear series. (And passives) This is probably the most sp friendly build but not so much fun.

Also you should just farm it all at once at Ongs. Wouldn't bother with it at higher lvls, just takes too damn long.


Thanks for the reply. I was told that Chinese builds aren't really all that important anymore and if I wanted a character similar to this I should go euro wizard. You have any comments on this?

And in terms of SP farming for this build. I'm kinda new to the game so I'm not 100% sure how everything works, do you farm all 1 million SP at once? or do you get a certain amount and then keep going and get the rest later?

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You could go wiz, but then you won't be able to pvp. 'Nuff said.

If you're new to the game IMO don't farm yet, just play around and get a feel of the game first

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You could go wiz, but then you won't be able to pvp. 'Nuff said.

If you're new to the game IMO don't farm yet, just play around and get a feel of the game first


Well I used to play a while ago (over 2 years) and had a decent character, but I've forgotten most aspects of the game. One thing I *do* remember though is that I want to make sure I make this character right, so I don't have to go back and make a new one. I definitely am willing to take the time to farm, though tedious.


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China int = you can hold your own for a bit when pvp solo.
Wiz = you will be raped up your ass until friends come and give you buffs. Than you shall be the one with the strap-on.


BTW, I personally don't think Spear should be pure int. Maybe int hybrid. Yea you get that boost in hp, but it's not really enough for long-term tanking once your snow ends. On the 95 nuker I play with, I pvped a 97 ff Glaive/Blade/80Fire/20ice using 94+7 blade/shield and 94+7 glaive.
With the shield, I could tank the 1 min until snow came back. Good luck doing that with a Spear. 3500 hp will go away very very quickly without your snow.

Overall, you lose phy def buff and gain more dmg. Mag def buff isn't really that great except against wizzards, considering you're already int-heavy, and with no shield to block, a hit or 2 and you're dead. If you really want to keep pure int, I'd say having a maxed ice wall is a necessity.

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