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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:55 pm 
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Guide looks great, shame you didn't write about Force, it's a great build and perhaps even better than 100ice/80light,20ice.


I didn't write about Force because I've never had a high level Force char so I don't really know how the build works.


I know and that's a shame =p haha ^_^ I got a force bower ;)


Xmoshe why dont you make a guide for force bower please.. and how much sp total we need for it.. and what skills do we need to get.. im intrested in making one of thiese.. :D


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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:28 pm 
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Xmoshe why dont you make a guide for force bower please.. and how much sp total we need for it.. and what skills do we need to get.. im intrested in making one of thiese.. :D

Good idea :D

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:17 pm 
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Nah I'm too lazy to make a guide, but I could help you with updating yours if you want : >

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:24 pm 
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Nah I'm too lazy to make a guide, but I could help you with updating yours if you want : >

I'm too lazy too :(

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:41 pm 
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Shame then xD

L33t, you can always pm me if you have questions.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:46 pm 
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XMoshe wrote:
Shame then xD

L33t, you can always pm me if you have questions.

cant you just take screen shots of skills and just cirlce the skills to get! thats not hard.. even for the lazy that way i can just look at the skills and nivlam them to see how much sp i need. =) please!

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:20 am 
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A friend is using my char atm so I can't get on it, I can give you the skills you need though.

It's ordered like this:
Self heal
This is a waste, it heals less than targeted, which you can use on yourself, so don't bother getting this one.
Stat heal (debuffs and burn etc ofcourse)
A must, the Area is easier too use since you don't have to target yourself but it has a big cooldown and casts slower.
Area stat heal
Also a must, it heals 2 random stats from you and your pt members
Target heal
Max this if you have the sp for it, if not, don't bother. The healing animation looks sexy but the last two books transfers heal to the closest person, so if you're pvping someone it will heal that person too.
Res
Max if you have the sp, with all the clerics around it's not a must but it is nice to have incase your cleric dies or something.
Harmony
Also max if you have the sp/want to farm for it. I didn't use it much during grinding since at higher lvl the spawn sucks too hard to stand in one spot, but it's nice to protect nubbies with during plvl or something.
Vitals (debuffs)
The most important skills from the Force tree. Max it all, although I have the 1st and 2nd book only at lvl 1 because I found myself not using them as much. I only need the real debuffs to kill someone. They are handy against euro's with cleric though, since they do get through holy spell.
Passive
Increases your mp, just max it.

Just tell me if you got any more questions xD

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:57 am 
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Ice is not so good for bowers really, because skilled bower uses tactics like using phantom in dangerous situations, light 80 cold 20 is better for archer, bladers and glaivers should get 100 cold.


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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:07 am 
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With 100 ice a bower doesn't have to get range.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:25 am 
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XMoshe wrote:
With 100 ice a bower doesn't have to get range.


Ofcourse it has to get range, not every1 is str, example ss ints you just phantom away when your hp is low and when snow ends just phantom and use the 98 skill and followed by anti devil, because they will try to interrupt you.


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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
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very intelligent wrote:
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With 100 ice a bower doesn't have to get range.


Ofcourse it has to get range, not every1 is str, example ss ints you just phantom away when your hp is low and when snow ends just phantom and use the 98 skill and followed by anti devil, because they will try to interrupt you.


kb, fire wall, kb, fire wall if you have to be a pussy. Also with snow on they don't really have to worry about dieing. They got enough skills to prevent that without phantom-ing away.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:35 am 
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XMoshe wrote:
very intelligent wrote:
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With 100 ice a bower doesn't have to get range.


Ofcourse it has to get range, not every1 is str, example ss ints you just phantom away when your hp is low and when snow ends just phantom and use the 98 skill and followed by anti devil, because they will try to interrupt you.


kb, fire wall, kb, fire wall if you have to be a pussy. Also with snow on they don't really have to worry about dieing. They got enough skills to prevent that without phantom-ing away.


I meant that to use phantom when the opponent int's snow runs out.


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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:11 am 
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really nice guide, it has much detail and really colorful it heklped to understand this tanking build better but isnt bicheon better cause of shield and many other skills :p

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
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very intelligent wrote:
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Ofcourse it has to get range, not every1 is str, example ss ints you just phantom away when your hp is low and when snow ends just phantom and use the 98 skill and followed by anti devil, because they will try to interrupt you.


kb, fire wall, kb, fire wall if you have to be a pussy. Also with snow on they don't really have to worry about dieing. They got enough skills to prevent that without phantom-ing away.


I meant that to use phantom when the opponent int's snow runs out.


So you build a char about the 1min someone's snow is out? O_o What about other builds lol..Fire wall helps against kd from bladers/kb from bowers and glaives, it also stops stats. Same thing for ice wall but then for ints, no stats/kd/kb. Face it, light is useless for pure str's.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
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very intelligent wrote:
Ice is not so good for bowers really, because skilled bower uses tactics like using phantom in dangerous situations, light 80 cold 20 is better for archer, bladers and glaivers should get 100 cold.

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Don't underestimate a build that you dont have.


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really nice guide, it has much detail and really colorful it heklped to understand this tanking build better but isnt bicheon better cause of shield and many other skills :p

Bicheon/Ice makes an awesome tank, but considerably less damage than a Bower. It's all about personal playing style :)

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:25 am 
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any others opinions on this build??? im farming to make that kind of bower


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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
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I like how sro.mmosite have stole my guide without asking lol

http://sro.mmosite.com/content/2009-11- ... 09,1.shtml

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
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Whats the total SP on this bad boy?


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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
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kontroversy wrote:
Whats the total SP on this bad boy?

No idea, you would have to calculate it on an SP Calculator ^^

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
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Whats the total SP on this bad boy?


~3.1mil for 110 cap.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:02 pm 
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I was pursuing this build but I saw only a few str ice bow players and when I asked them how was their build they didn't gave any assuring answers about it's performance at PVPing.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:47 pm 
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I was pursuing this build but I saw only a few str ice bow players and when I asked them how was their build they didn't gave any assuring answers about it's performance at PVPing.

Bottom line is Cold Str Bowers are generally better at PvP than Light Str Bowers.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
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great guide love it :D hope you'll do an quick update for the 110 cap :D

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
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blood1343 wrote:
great guide love it :D hope you'll do an quick update for the 110 cap :D

Thanks :) I didn't do an update for 110 cap because I quit SRO about 8 months ago, just as the first few people were hitting level 110, so most of the people reading this will probably know more about 110 cap than me lol.

Btw PM replied.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
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great guide love it :D hope you'll do an quick update for the 110 cap :D

Thanks :) I didn't do an update for 110 cap because I quit SRO about 8 months ago, just as the first few people were hitting level 110, so most of the people reading this will probably know more about 110 cap than me lol.

Btw PM replied.

aight thanks alot :D

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
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1: What be without autoshare pt (i.e. no bard)?
2: IMHO attack rating is about attack speed, aint it?


Good guide 8.5/10


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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:36 pm 
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1: What be without autoshare pt (i.e. no bard)?
2: IMHO attack rating is about attack speed, aint it?
Good guide 8.5/10


To number two. When you check your character screen you will see phy/mag dmg and both min and max ratings. The higher your attack rating the more often you will hit towards the max dmg.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:48 pm 
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1: What be without autoshare pt (i.e. no bard)?

Bower is more of a 'go it alone' build. If you want a team player, most euros cater for that.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:34 pm 
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I used this guide to make my pure int bower helped me out a lot :D :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Pure Str Ice Bower [100 Cap]
PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:18 pm 
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what is the best for a Ice/fire bower Pure str or hybrid?

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