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 Post subject: [Guide] Fire Blader
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:22 pm 
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I am writing this guide because I feel like it, and I will try to make this guide readable, not boring, and it should be enough to cover your "Need to Know about Blader".

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Image Smashing Series - Do not take it until lvl 71 then max the last 2 skills.
Image Chain Sword Attack Series - Max
Image Shield Technique Series - Max, becomes very handy on giants, etc.
Image Blade Force Series - Thats your first ranged attack, Max it.
Image Hidden Blade Series - Max, its your knock downs.
Image Killing Heaven Blade Series - Stabs while enemy is down - Max.
Image Sword Dance Series - Your Second Ranged Attack, very useful, Max it for sure.
Image Bicheon Force Series - Decreases the physical defense of your shield by heaps and gives you only a bit more damage - Optional if you PVP a lot.
Image Shield Protection Series (Passive) - Its a passive, Max it.

Fire


Image Fire Force Series - Max.
Image Fire Shield Series - Max.
Image Flame Body Series - Max.
Image Fire Protection Series - Max.
Image Fire Wall Series - Optional.
Image Flame Wave Series - You are not a nuker, do not take it.
Image Fire Combustion - Not needed if you use pk2 edits, if not, max.
Image Flame Devil Force Series - Its a passive, max.

Lightning

Image Thunder Force Series - Do not take, you've got an imbue already.
Image Piercing Force Series - Max, increases your magical damage.
Image Wind Walk Series - One of the most useful skills in this tree, max.
Image Lion Shout Series - You are not a nuker, do not take it.
Image Concentration Series - Increases parry ratio, max it.
Image Thunderbolt Force Series - You are not a nuker, do not take it.
Image Heaven's Force Series - Its a passive, max.

[Armour]

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Reasons:

20% less mana usage, you are pure str so you need it a lot.
20% faster running, just another + :)
20% more magical defense bonus, you are pure str, your magical defense is very low.

[Weapon]

Blade and Shield

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[PVP]

In PVP, try to buff up first then when your taking hits use the Shield Technique Series, they will absorb ALOT of the damage. Then try to knock down and fit all your stabs in. Continue until dead ^_^

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Can you discuss in the main post why lightning is better for ice?


Maxed Force Piercing Force = 18% magical boost.
Maxed Grasswalk = 77% moving speed gained at lvl 85.
Maxed Ghostwalk = 23 meters at lvl 90.
Maxed Concentration = 34 Parry gained at lvl 89.
Maxed Passive = 33 Parry at 90.

how much defense is 20 ice? 8 from passive, 8 from the soft guard of ice buff, is that really going to cover your needs? you've got a shield which gives you so much defense, you don't really need 16 more physical defense.
And you need alot of speed science you can't kill mobs of your level with just the two ranged attacks.

I used Sro MMO Site for the pictures.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:52 pm 
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Looks good, nice job.

You should add, how to pvp with this class, why pure str or int and why a fire blader, ect.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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do not add "not necessary if you have pk2 edit" about the invis skill in fire...

and yea add pvp help

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:37 am 
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Decent guide, but maybe you can go further into explaining the skills....

such as why do you get them (like "do you skip any skills in a tree?") or explain what the skills exactly do...

that and give a reason why to take lightning over Cold or Force...or you can also add cold and force trees, as well...and give pros / cons on them.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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i don't see why you should have full lightning.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:44 pm 
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Eryklok wrote:
I am writing this guide because I feel like it


I loled :D Anyway nice guide, although it does need a little more detail. Maybe how to PvP each build, or you could whack some YouTube vids up.

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i don't see why you should have full lightning.


I personally prefer Cold over Light. The main reason why people max Light is for the speed, and parry increase.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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is it all good now? PVP Tips and a Vid? :)
And what ^ said
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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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whatever floats your boat. i'm actually not in the mood to be the 1 millionth person to explain why full lightning is just useless.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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Very very short... maybe you should try to elaborate more on the weapons, as in what blues to add, and what stats it would be good to have instead of just posting two pictures of a shield and a blade. Maybe you could try to compare the pros and cons of having light over ice. Also i've found some issues with the skills:
1) Sword Dance Series - Not very useful unless you are in a mob, Optional. The Blade force series is not the only ranged attack. The Sword Dance Series is also, and i find it a lot stronger than the blade force series. I say max Dances.
2) Bicheon Force Series - Decreases your physical defense by heaps and gives you only a bit more damage - Do not take. This only decreases the physical defense on your shield, while increasing your attack. Useful when pvping other str based builds, when a little extra damage can go a long way.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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Needs more info about pvp, like what do to exactly against all builds, also how to kill fire wall bowers would be nice.

Add reasons to why being a blader is better then being a bow, ect.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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Devilman wrote:
Very very short... maybe you should try to elaborate more on the weapons, as in what blues to add, and what stats it would be good to have instead of just posting two pictures of a shield and a blade. Maybe you could try to compare the pros and cons of having light over ice. Also i've found some issues with the skills:
1) Sword Dance Series - Not very useful unless you are in a mob, Optional. The Blade force series is not the only ranged attack. The Sword Dance Series is also, and i find it a lot stronger than the blade force series. I say max Dances.
2) Bicheon Force Series - Decreases your physical defense by heaps and gives you only a bit more damage - Do not take. This only decreases the physical defense on your shield, while increasing your attack. Useful when pvping other str based builds, when a little extra damage can go a long way.


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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:18 pm 
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Can you discuss in the main post why lightning is better for ice?

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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iscared, its done ^^


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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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Eryklok wrote:
iscared, its done ^^

I think iscared meant bich/ice/fire vs bich/fire/light. not 80 light 20 ice.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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^Yep, that's what I meant.

Your guide is good dude but you need more details explaining the class and other things.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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Maxed Force Piercing Force = 18% magical boost.
Maxed Grasswalk = 77% moving speed gained at lvl 85.
Maxed Ghostwalk = 23 meters at lvl 90.
Maxed Concentration = 34 Parry gained at lvl 89.
Maxed Passive = 33 Parry at 90.

how much defense is 20 ice? 8 from passive, 8 from the soft guard of ice buff, is that really going to cover your needs? you've got a shield which gives you so much defense, you don't really need 16 more physical defense.
And you need alot of speed science you can't kill mobs of your level with just the two ranged attacks.


as a pure STR ur based on physical attacks not on magical attacks at all, the magical buff is hardly noticeable.

100% speed pots cost 250K which is nothing. so 100>77 :shock:

as a blader u dont need distance, so the teleports arent that important.

the max parry ratio buffs help alot vs bowers and warriors, but not as much as maxed ice buffs, and a good 25-30% snow shield.

oh and ur getting ice 20 for snow shield not the physical defense lawl.


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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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Eryklok wrote:
is it all good now? PVP Tips and a Vid? :)
And what ^ said
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What was that supposed to mean...?

Eryklok wrote:
how much defense is 20 ice? 8 from passive, 8 from the soft guard of ice buff, is that really going to cover your needs? you've got a shield which gives you so much defense, you don't really need 16 more physical defense.
And you need alot of speed science you can't kill mobs of your level with just the two ranged attacks.


And what about 20% Snow? What about how much of a waste of SP it is to level Light from 80 to 100 for 4% moving increase, 2% mag increase and a few more parry? Someone hasn't thought this through...

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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Puma60 wrote:
Eryklok wrote:
is it all good now? PVP Tips and a Vid? :)
And what ^ said
.................|.................


What was that supposed to mean...?

Eryklok wrote:
how much defense is 20 ice? 8 from passive, 8 from the soft guard of ice buff, is that really going to cover your needs? you've got a shield which gives you so much defense, you don't really need 16 more physical defense.
And you need alot of speed science you can't kill mobs of your level with just the two ranged attacks.


And what about 20% Snow? What about how much of a waste of SP it is to level Light from 80 to 100 for 4% moving increase, 2% mag increase and a few more parry? Someone hasn't thought this through...


well sorry for the arrow, I couldn't be stuffed checking ur name after i pressed reply :P

And I think that its a bit of waste when u got the high mp draining spells and you got the 20% mana taken of the damage every hit.
+ Your full str, and if you've chosen to get the fire wall you are almost invincible...


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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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Smashing Series - Do not take it until lvl 71 then max the last 2 skills.


In order to max the 4th and 5th book you will have to max the 1st/2nd and 3rd one too?

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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Eryklok wrote:
Puma60 wrote:
Eryklok wrote:
is it all good now? PVP Tips and a Vid? :)
And what ^ said
.................|.................


What was that supposed to mean...?

Eryklok wrote:
how much defense is 20 ice? 8 from passive, 8 from the soft guard of ice buff, is that really going to cover your needs? you've got a shield which gives you so much defense, you don't really need 16 more physical defense.
And you need alot of speed science you can't kill mobs of your level with just the two ranged attacks.


And what about 20% Snow? What about how much of a waste of SP it is to level Light from 80 to 100 for 4% moving increase, 2% mag increase and a few more parry? Someone hasn't thought this through...


well sorry for the arrow, I couldn't be stuffed checking ur name after i pressed reply :P

And I think that its a bit of waste when u got the high mp draining spells and you got the 20% mana taken of the damage every hit.
+ Your full str, and if you've chosen to get the fire wall you are almost invincible...


he's not talking about fire. full lightning is just useless.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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he's not talking about fire. full lightning is just useless.


FFS, I meant that u got 100 fire so you got the tower, if you read the guide properly (and my post) you would understand so if you max the tower and you go pvp then snow shield isn't gonna do much difference. Having fun quoting my posts?


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he's not talking about fire. full lightning is just useless.


FFS, I meant that u got 100 fire so you got the tower, if you read the guide properly (and my post) you would understand so if you max the tower and you go pvp then snow shield isn't gonna do much difference. Having fun quoting my posts?


lol. snow shield makes a lot of difference. and i'll say it again, full lightning is just useless.

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Well Bladers need speed more than physical defense which they have alot, and I said that they have fire wall as an alternative.


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100 Light is a waste for pure str chars, just a pure sp waste. You need like 200-300k sp for like..nothing, I would prefer the 20% snow and spending like 500 sp then a few % speed like 1.5m phantom and some parry for 200k+ sp >.< That snow makes the difference between tanking 2 or 3 people.

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 Post subject: Re: [Guide] Fire Blader
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OK GUYS YOU KNOW WHAT?!
Do whatever you wanna do, I made the guide to help people to understand the power of a blader, don't like it? there is tones of other guides just like mine, maybe even better, so if you dont like it, then go find another one, and stop the spam attack.
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We're not spamming, we're just wondering why you choose to max light when it's obviously a waste of sp for str chars.

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why don't you be a smart little boy and change the guide? :)

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Shaka Laka wrote:
why don't you be a smart little boy and change the guide? :)


why don't you be a smart little boy, stfu and gtfo of my thread? :)


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Eryklok wrote:
Shaka Laka wrote:
why don't you be a smart little boy and change the guide? :)


why don't you be a smart little boy, stfu and gtfo of my thread? :)


lol, way to reply a week later.

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Shaka Laka wrote:
Eryklok wrote:
Shaka Laka wrote:
why don't you be a smart little boy and change the guide? :)


why don't you be a smart little boy, stfu and gtfo of my thread? :)


lol, way to reply a week later.


Changed my internet provider that's why now stop getting your post count up and GTFO!


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