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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:58 pm 
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Thanks for the possitive remarks. I am actually doing a major revamp of the guide right now.

To answer your question you cannot trade silk based items between accounts to reduce charge back issues.

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no, you cann't trade a helper pet on trade but i think you can bank them

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Will, Get your self 2nd degree Blade, Destroy it, 50% Chance of getting wind 2, Will, With my Level 29 Char, I was broke, Bought some 2nd degree Blade, Got tons of wind 2, Like, 31 Piece 62k, Some level 7x Bought em`, Lol. I went fine with gold but missed the Char.

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breaking items is good except you need to have some money to start with, for lower lv players just using void rondos on al drops in cheeper and just as good

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destroying items (especially blue ones) = maybe a lucky stone =O -> 8-10 m

i like buying challenge tabs for around 300-400k each, making the stone, then sell the stone for 1-1.3 mil. Since most prices are over 1.5, mine sell the fastest, and since challenge never works (and i mean NEVER) you get lots of buys ^.^

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thewicked, what degree stones are you using? :$


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nice guide...

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2. Destroyer rondo Items. All the item drops like weapons or protector that you aren’t going to use destroy for elements. Do Not NPC anything. Let me repeat myself. DO NOT NPC anything.


item with blues destroy it but without blues you must NPC that....

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Very Helpful, But how do i transfer stuff between my two Chars ?

You put items in storage by talking to the storage NPC at any town. Storage is 5 pages long, and you only get 5 pages per account (NOT per character, as the 5 pages are shared between all 3 characters).

So what I'm getting is that I've been stupid by selling my alchemy items. :( Approximately how much is each element worth? (pacific prices, if possible). Is it worth rondo'ing every alchemy drop/item drop?

approximately how many elements do you get per item rondo?

looks pretty straightforward and simple otherwise (besides the last one, I fail at gauging prices and being a beast at investing). only problem i see is that for people who can't stall while afk, they'll have to stick to old fashioned NPCing off items OR sell elements at a really,really,really low price.


u might wanna add htat only the chars in the same server gets to share items

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aw man im lovin ur guide bro...lovin da economic talks...^^...i take eco at skool too...lol...

u in uni or sumthin...? bachelor of commerce im guessin...?

btw check out my post in da Q&A part...


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nice guide, its kinda obvious tho ... i mainly support the stone sellin part, but u wont get too far with this guide, you would prolly quit at lvl 72 :S ... gl tho sometimes t works


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The Phenomenon Nay wrote:
nice guide, its kinda obvious tho ... i mainly support the stone sellin part, but u wont get too far with this guide, you would prolly quit at lvl 72 :S ... gl tho sometimes t works


Could you be more specific to what you disagree with? What changes at lvl 72? Im only 64 so.............



I would like to say that once you get into d8 items you will probably stop breaking every item, you will start to have more elements then you know what to do with if you do. But it will be obvious when that time comes.

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Dealing SOS/SOM/SUN items is the most effective way to make gold AND fight green mobs every time you go grinding for fastest item drop rate.

I have to say dealing with Seal items has made me the most gold. I've had deals where profits range from 1mil up to 150mil depending on which degree item it is. Know the market, meaning to know when to buy or not and how to price your items correctly.

Talking from experience, being a lvl 72 Bow user I grind at Moles and I finish up with 5-10 item drops (not counting the large amount of elixirs and Tabs) on my 3hour ticket time.

It has come to my attention that powerlvling is another good way to get rich. I tend to powerlvl people at Yetis or Power Earth Ghosts and the amount of items/elixirs I get is surprisingly high, besides charging people for each session (I tend to do it for free most of the time). :D

Btw, very nice guide you got there!
Happy dealing everyone :)

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Thanks evilpeta

There is no question grinding on green mobs leads to a much better drop rate, but I think (depending on build) grinding on low lvl mobs slows down the leveling process.

I have never had good luck with selling sos/som/sun. It is still very possible to build up money without doing this.

However!!
Just to add emphasis to what she said about selling sos/som/sun. Someone I know found a clean recently dropped 64 sun ring in the stall network. Bought it, then globalled and sold it same day for a 180mill profit. (Wish i had seen that ring ><)

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For low levels the destroyer rondos are your best buddy at gold making. I recently started new char since I wanted to test Europe areas. What I did was that I kept all the items I found from levels 1 to 18 and then used destoyer rondos on them to turn them to elements. I teleported to Hotan and put up my element stall and went to sleep. In the morning I had gained couple millions from the element sales.

I had now enough gold to buy wolf and start the next gold making round: This time I used stall network. I bought all the 2,3,4 degree items (normal and blues) in all towns that were sold in stalls which had lower prices than the NPC items in their shops (yes, I had written down NPC prices before this). I then used destroyer rondos again to all those items that I bought, went to Hotan and put up my element stall again. Result was about 3mills after the sales (at level 18 )... Destroying items and selling elements give about 600% profit at the moment with current element prices. ;)

I used this same tactic 1.5 years ago when the elements were introduced into the game and I'm now amazed that the elements are still priced so high that you can even make 200-300% profit by buying NPC items, destroying them and then selling elements... :roll:

What we learn from this:
1) Do not sell your weapons/armors etc. for lower prices than the NPC prices are ie. if armor chest is sold for 40000 in the npc shop, you must sell the armor chests you've found for more than 40000... price should be set so high that it overweights the element sale profit if you destroyed that same item. Usually the price for item has to be 3xNPC price or more or you still make better profit from element sales.

2) Don't sell any items to NPC shops

3) Don't destroy rondo SoS items :P

4) Always loot all element items (they're worth more than the gold drops from the monsters). Follow some gold bots, they usually leave element items on ground.

5) Do not make trade runs when you're low level (profit from elements is just so much higher)

6) Sell elements for high level players ie. in Hotan. Don't bother to stall them in lower towns, rich people aren't there!

7) Sell elements in nice amounts (see alchemy tablets what amounts they usually need)

8 ) When low level, join parties always and kill party mobs. You get lots of items much faster => faster element profits

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