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 Post subject: [Guide]How to make money..for people under lvl 40
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Welcome to my money makeing Guide :D
edit: ATTENTION: usealbe until caps 90 patch get here (useable after this patch also but needs testing 4 wind3)
I made this guide so ppl that dont bott can have sos grear too and good money stash so this way i could corect some wrongs in SRO(added this coment as promised)
Well this guide is for all people that are short on gold and need to make some fast( thats 75% of ppl under lvl 40 :wink: ) Enought whit chit chat this is the idea:
Table of contents:
1.Theory
2.Ingame experiment
3.Why would i tell so good and usefull stuf????
4.Why do we need wind lvl 2?(added)
5.What about 3rd degree and other degree's?(added)
6.Some advices(added)
7. Euro items


1.Theory

blades lvl8 at NPC in jg cost 3,5k of gold and when they are destroyed whit destroyer rondo they have about 50% chance of giving 4 to 6 units of wind lvl2 which i hope cost's 2k each on all servers(it does on Athens)..if it does not then u lucky Athen's players listen up becouse u will find this very usefull :D.As i was saying lvl8 blade has 50% to give 4~6 wind lvl2, for example well take average of 5 so it gives ~10k of gold
in this exaple i will destroy 100 blades lvl 8 bought from npc :twisted: in theory: about 50 blades should give me 5 units each so thats
50x5=250 units of wind lvl2=500k...nice right :D
Now lets see how much we need to spend on this:
we need 100 blades lvl8 which cost 3,5k each and we need 100 units of destroyer rondo so that:
100x3,5k=350k(for blades) & 100x400=40k(for destroyer rondo)
350k+40k=390k...oh look we have 110k of profit from those 250 units of wind lvl 2 alone..u get other elements as well and they have some price for example wind lvl1 can be selled for 500 gold each easy
In theory works fine now let see how it works in game...
2.Ingame experiment
this is where u buy destroyer rondo
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theres a 100 pices i take
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there is 29 blades in my inventory
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ok now we do some alchemy
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and we get those nice elements that cost soo much :)
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and oops now i have no more space in my inventory need 4 spots in order to work properly
do not make this kind of mistakes they can cost...start have 8 spots for elements and4 free spots so alchemy can work now if u were dumb enought to make this mistake sell it or put it in storage :P
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ok now we finished first round let see results:
28 blades used, 75 units gained meaning 15 blades gave 5 pices each
15 blades are a bit over 50% of 28 that was totaly used so we scored good :P
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round two lets go same thing whit one diference i use 25 blades in this round(nned those 4 spots for first blade :( )
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and here are results of 2nd round:

we used 25 blades adn we gained 62 units of wind lvl2 :arrow: meaning 12~13 blades gave us wind which is exact 50%
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3rd round (bored to death here :banghead: )
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and results:
we used 25blades adn gained 63 ubits :arrow: same as round before this one 50%
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4th and LAST round(thank god :banghead: )
we are useing only 22 blades this time as that how many has left until 100 that i told ill be destroying
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and here are results of 4th round:
22 blades and 59 units gained meaning we got ourselfs anotehr 55% one
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TOTAL SCORE:
we used 390k in doing this and gained 259 units of wind lvl 2=518k of gold from wind 2 only let say u get 100k for ALL other elements( and u will get more)
u get 618k-390k=228k 8)
it took me 25 min to do this and let asume ill need 15 min to sell it that 40 min in total.
I would like to see some1 (whitout silks) and under lvl 30 to make 228k of gold for 40 min :P 8)
BAD SIDES ARE:
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3rd round (bored to death here :banghead: )
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4th and LAST round(thank god :banghead: )
before the end u start doing this :arrow: :banghead: a lot meaning its BOREING!!!!!!!!!!!!

3.Why would i tell so good and usefull stuf????

Im telling all this becouse i used as much as i wanted i managed to make 5mill from 500k of gold whit help of this in 4~5 days note: i did this whole day long (i know some lvl4x cant get that much) bought my sos bow pimped it to+4 and as u may noted most of my gear is sos so i realy cant ask for much more from this so i share it whit rest of smart (mostly smart and reasonable) persons that are comeing to this forum. High lvl u can use in order to save some money....nah it takes to much time and its to boreing adn too little money to save :P right? i know i wont do it ill just buy 8) thats why this topic is not gonna couse crash of wind lvl 2 price and soo will help lot off ppl :love:

ADDED: 4.Why do we need wind lvl 2?
This was good question aked by Matrixman__, so it deserves good answer and whole section just for it.
Truth is wind lvl2 is used to make almost every lvl of Str Stone icluding str stone lvl8 (lucky for us all) so thats why its always wanted and needed :D .
If u want to see for which tablets you need wind lvl 2 go to this link
:arrow: http://sircola78.si.funpic.de/Ally/adb/tablets.php (i picked this usefull link form Borat2 tnx man :) )

5.What about 3rd degree and other degree's?(added)

I see this question drow lot of interests and confusion so i added this section to help them clear things up andswer is simple NO! i do not recomend destroying anything besides swords and blades lvl8 and most curtenly NOT destroying 3rd degree stuf and higher degree becouse there is no profit in it(those items just cost to much even if u would go from stall to stall looking for cheap stuf) if any1 finds out about any high degree item that does make profit (and biger profit then this) plz leave post here...other then that there is not much more to say about this subject ill repeat once again for those who read only bold text
IT IS NOT RECOMENDED to destroy 3rd or higher degree item becouse there is no profit in it...correct me if im wrong :wink:
ADDED:Also some readers gave me examples of tassets being good to destroy and they gave some prof as well so they are as well recomended to destroy from now on here is exaple comparation between blades lvl8 and tassets lvl12
twarg1 wrote:
Hi Folks! :)

Here's some info from a rather small, but not insignificant sample size:

Bought 50 lvl8 blades and 50 lvl12 male tassets, + the 100 destroyer rondo

Destroyed the blades got:
Earth1(120) Fire1(60) Water1(96) Wind1(93)
Earth2(127) Fire2(137) Water2(113) Wind2(121)

Destroyed the tassets got:
Earth1(84) Fire1(71) Water1(89) Wind1(90)
Earth2(80) Fire2(109) Water2(115) Wind2(130)

Used the following prices (on Xian) for elements:
Earth1(175) Fire1(100) Water1(200) Wind1(250)
Earth2(300) Fire2(500) Water2(400) Wind2(1800)

Cost of 50 blades w/ rondo = $195000
Cost of 50 tassets w/ rondo = $170000

Return of blades: $439050
Return of tassets: $420600

Profit on blades = return - cost = $244050
Profit on tassets = return - cost = $250600

Based on these results only, tassets will work equally as well as blades.
Thanks,
twarg1 8)

tnx twarg1 for takeing time to do this for us all :love: :love:

6.Some advices(added)

Here are some usefull tips:
1.Invest in this as much as u can becouse the more u invest the bigger is profit :D here is excelent first had example of this claim
kevv wrote:
Very easy, the wind2 covers what I paid for the blades/rondos and brings in about 600k+ profit, then fire2 sells for about 1k each.

I made 2000 wind2's = 4m
It cost me about 3m to buy blades/rondos
And about 1800 fire 2's = 1.8m

So the wind2's gave me 1m profit + the 2.8 from fire 2 = 3m :D If you sell the other elements you also get a nice amount more but those are the main 2 that give me money.

tnx kevv for shareing this whit us :love:
2.When you are done whit makeing elements go in DW or Hotan adn spamfow few min whit msg like this"WTS ___UNITS OF WIND LVL2..2K EACH PM ME" and samewise for every element u wanna sell i can pretty much garantee that youll sell it in about 10 min max
3.I recomed at least 390k to start whit (notice that this is how much u need for test that i did) and most money i suggest....infinity :D (interesting info Mugen=infinity in japanese 8) if im informed correctly :? )
4.This is recomended for ALL LVL PLAYERS IF they have to study or anything that will keep em "afk" they can take 20~25min before they have to go afk and do this then go stalling and afk when they return meaby they wont get exp but they sure will get money that they would make on grind 8) (im studying for big tests so that how i originaly came to this idea needed way to make money and still be able to study)
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I have never sold a Fire1 in any qantity whatsoever. I try to use those up in weapon or protector tabs lvl 2 or 3, especially 2D INT tabs use a lot of unneeded elements and sell ok. Just FWY, I view all the other elements as zero value.
didnt want to rewrite it but this is actually realy good advice if u realy cant sell other elements buy tabs which need em (int or str lvl 2~3 or some wep tabs) and try selling those i still didnt try it but it sounds as good idea to me
6.if you are CHINESE char builder this is something u might find usefull
Grandpa wrote:
Alchemy Material Drops that can be Void Rondo’d for 2nd Degree WIND:
    Lev 8 Broken Stone Ghost: Blue Belt
    Lev 9 Stone Ghost: Red Belt
    Lev 9 Tombstone: Float Stone
    Lev 12 Bandit Archer: Broken Arrow
    Lev 13 Young Tiger: Tiger Beard
    Lev 14 Tiger: Tiger Hair
    Lev 17 Black Tiger: Tiger Bone Piece
    Lev 18 White Tiger: Tiger Dogtooth
    Lev 19 Chakji Worker: Fishbone

Of course this might be better placed in a "Hints for helping newbs under lev 19 to make money" guide, but I didn't find one here. Thanks again! Also, making STR Stones from Jade Tablets of STR for D6, D7 and D8 all require W2. So it is the higher level characters who need the 2nd Degree Wind. They become our "target audience". Seems that selling in Hotan while on the Stall Network is the "best". I'm certain that somebody has already said this but it bears repeating IMO.

[EDIT] I've since submitted a [GUIDE] Newb: (and linked to yours here) that you're welcome to view.

~Grandpa

7.cant think of it right now :P (will update if something comes up)

7. Euro Items
Ok about Euros well they are pretty much same story i tryed dagers and they worked fine for me so im gonna recomend them

this is very good walktrough 4 people who are iterested in useing euro items to do this way of money makeing (and i thankWhyKillME 4 takeing time and shareing this whit all of SRO players)
WhyKillMe wrote:
Hello,

Let me share my experience doing this.

U say u do 100 blades in 30 minutes, i do call you very very very slow.

But why?

Well that's because i do 600-700 European level 8 Daggers in 30 Minutes.

Im currently level 31, and i have 40 million gold doing this, with only selling wind 2 elements
on Hercules server for 2750 each. I haven't sold any of my other elements yet, i have got
about 50k of each in stock right now. I started Thursday, and then the sunday after i had 25
million already, this trick is just great!!!.

The normal price on my server for those elements is 3000 each, but for 2750 each they sell
withing 5 minutes so :).

my Experience:

You get about 250 Wind Element level 2 from 100 destroyed European Daggers Level 8.
30 Minutes = 600 Blades.
6x250=1500 Wind Elements Level 2
1500x2750=4125000 ( 4.1 Million )
Destroyer Rondo Costs: 600x400= 240000 (240k )
4125000-240000=3885000 ( 3.9 Million Left )
600x3750(daggers)=2250000 ( 2.25 Million )
3885000-2250000=1635000 ( 1.6 Million Left )

This means i made 1635000 Gold in just 30 minutes:) Thats great isn't it :O

Not to forget, all other elements i still have left.

Tips:

Do it after level 30, finish your 2nd inventory expension quest.

Then you will have exactly 12 slots in your second inventory, you can place all 8 diffrent
kind of elements you will get there, and the 4 free spots you will need.

Clean you first inventory by putting everything in your storage, this way you can keep
all daggers in the first page of your inventory.

Another one:

You don't have to wait until the "emote" for alchemy is gone ( the glow ). When you click the
"Fuse All" button you can already drag the new dagger to the alchemy window and press
"Fuse All" again, this speeds up the process a little.

WhyKillMe

p.s. i have destroyed around 10000 daggers so far :):) Bought some nice items for the gold to:O



If u dont know what are prices of elements here are few usefull links to help u get informed :arrow:
viewtopic.php?t=36993
http://www.ofclan.net/forums/archive/in ... -1046.html
viewtopic.php?t=45031

:!: ALL READERS OF THIS GUIDE PLZ LEAVE HERE PRICES OF ELEMENTS LVL1 & LVL2 ON YOUR SERVERS (PRICES FOR ALL ELEMENTS). I WILL MAKE TABLE WHIT PRICES OF ELEMENTS ON ALL SERVERS TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER GUIDE IF I GET ENOUGHT INFO FROM YOU GUYS :!:
note: i moved this from a post of mine becouse i think here will be seen by people that dont read all posted replyes that go after this guide

Hope this was usefull to u all and if u have any coments or questions plz leave them as i would like to read some and reply :D

P.S. Ppl that support paint were right PAINT RULEZZZZZ :D

Last edit: still dont have time to resize pictures IF PICS ARE PROB LEAVE COMENT HERE PLZ becouse its realy at least 1~2h work adn im kinda busy right now so if they are not prob i would like to leave em as they are :D added one advice and coment on the topas promised

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wow pretty useful., u can do this for any lvl


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i dont understand the obsession with wind2, now wind4, theres a lot of money in wind4 farming

i heard of someone who used a mouse macro program to purchase 10 glavies at a time and then destroy then, he would leave it doing this all night, come back to 10k+ wind 2 or 4...thats 20mil for being afk all night


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not bad at all dude.. only if it wasnt so boring

other than that nicely made guide!

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By level 30 on Xian, back when there were NO gold bots.. only way to make money was trading and grinding ect..

By level 30 I had 4mil, whih believe it or not was a lot o_o

Step 1:
grind
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Npc things you can't sell in a stall
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Put half of the money in your inv into storage and DO NOT TOUCH IT.

Repeat.



But then again.. there was no alchemy other than elixirs and lucky powder back then so do what you want :P

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tnx :D
yes on any lvl but u wont profit from it this idea of mine works becouse blades are so cheap and u can profit from it i do not recomend buying 4th and > degree from npc u destroy it ( belive me i tested taht as well) but i do recomend destroying some drops u get later it IS usefull..some times very :wink:

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Itonami wrote:
By level 30 on Xian, back when there were NO gold bots.. only way to make money was trading and grinding ect..

By level 30 I had 4mil, whih believe it or not was a lot o_o

eh i made 5 mill in 5 days :wink: how much time did it took u to get to lvl 30 :roll: ?
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other than that nicely made guide!
ty :) and im sry i tryed my best but this guide is just not supose to be fun :( and btw. there were about 28 pic in the begining i shortend it to this(wasnt easy :banghead: )

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hey i heard that the lvl 8 armor wrist also gave wind 2

have you tried it using the armor wrist instead?

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eh, maybe if you need money, but i perfer to be powerful than rich


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hey i heard that the lvl 8 armor wrist also gave wind 2

have you tried it using the armor wrist instead?
yes and they indead do give 2~3 wind lvl 2 (more often 2) but at much lower sucsess rate down to 30% tnx for suggestion thou :D tryed chest parts and every other part (if u realy wanna know best after blades are swords lvl 8 then protector female legs lvl12 lol)

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Mugen† wrote:
retardXrandolph wrote:
hey i heard that the lvl 8 armor wrist also gave wind 2

have you tried it using the armor wrist instead?
yes and they indead do give 2~3 wind lvl 2 (more often 2) but at much lower sucsess rate down to 30% tnx for suggestion thou :D tryed chest parts and every other part (if u realy wanna know best after blades are swords lvl 8 then protector female legs lvl12 lol)


ah so i guess you tested every possiblity there is for this :shock:

once again good job and thanks :)

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retardXrandolph wrote:
hey i heard that the lvl 8 armor wrist also gave wind 2

have you tried it using the armor wrist instead?
yes and they indead do give 2~3 wind lvl 2 (more often 2) but at much lower sucsess rate down to 30% tnx for suggestion thou :D tryed chest parts and every other part (if u realy wanna know best after blades are swords lvl 8 then protector female legs lvl12 lol)


ah so i guess you tested every possiblity there is for this :shock:

once again good job and thanks :)
im afraid i did tasted every single one :( and tnx i did my best
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eh shadow this is first post of yours that i read and dont see logic in it heres mine:
being rich :arrow: being able to buy good wep and gear :arrow: being powerfull :P
correct me if im wrong thou :D

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Itonami wrote:
By level 30 on Xian, back when there were NO gold bots.. only way to make money was trading and grinding ect..

By level 30 I had 4mil, whih believe it or not was a lot o_o

eh i made 5 mill in 5 days :wink: how much time did it took u to get to lvl 30 :roll: ?


Psh.
my first char was a ss nuker, and I farmed a little bit before farming guides were out lol.. anyway.. three weeks?

Hey now.. that was back when sro had been open for like 4 months at most and nobody was pro yet.

..that, and I had no idea where to find earth ghosts so it was a little delayed.
And even if something was white, it was sold from your stall so money making was easy. :P

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I do this too,but with a different item which works a little better ;)

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The price of wind2 is going to plummet. =(

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this aint runescape, U can pull shit like that lol. But yeah I just ran a calculation today and if U do that with 4D spears from the NPC, it's impossible to make a profit. If you try very hard you can break even :P but it's dicks like you that drove the price of wind 2 through the roof. That's okay though cuz I undercut all those NPC item whores at 1.75k each and still turn a huuuuuuge profit using my method. And before anyone says I dunno what I'm talking about, I've made a little over 250 million total cuz all I do all day every day is sell elements. I know how to make em the cheapest way and get the biggest profit. I'm the Walmart with a McDonalds inside of it of element sales lol.

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Nice guide dude ^^ wish i knew about it on my first char lol.

@Desolator: u really arnt the sharpest tool in the shed are yah.
Price = Demand
Low supply = High Demand = High Price
High Supply = Low Demand = Low Price
How is pumping more wind 2 into the economy increasing the prices.
Please think befor you post ^_^

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high lvl players need wind 2 which drives up the price cuz they have more money. But also, they have to charge 2k each to make a profit. Any less and they risk breaking even. So they all charged 2k each until people just gave up and paid that much. You know like water, water, everywhere and not a drop to drink cuz it's too damn expensive but with wind 2 lol. I'd post my prices that I've had for elements for the last 2 months but you'd all get pissed at how low it is. I have ppl leaving nasty notes in my stall all the time lol.

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i did this and you also get a lot of fire 2 in the process so this is a very good way to get gold

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i did this and you also get a lot of fire 2 in the process so this is a very good way to get gold


How much do fire 2s sell for?

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Thanks so much man, I'm farming right now but with shit set.

Now I can buy a nice set :)


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Aaron777 wrote:
I do this too,but with a different item which works a little better ;)
plz tell us all which one works better (personaly im interested which one i did so badly becouse i tryed all and blade got on the top of all
ALTERNATIVExoxo wrote:
The price of wind2 is going to plummet. =(
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High lvl u can use in order to save some money....nah it takes to much time and its to boreing adn too little money to save right? i know i wont do it ill just buy thats why this topic is not gonna couse crash of wind lvl 2 price and soo will help lot off ppl
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yes on any lvl but u wont profit from it this idea of mine works becouse blades are so cheap and u can profit from it i do not recomend buying 4th and > degree from npc u destroy it ( belive me i tested taht as well) but i do recomend destroying some drops u get later it IS usefull..some times very
u2 plz read befrore makeing a reply
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Nice guide dude ^^ wish i knew about it on my first char
Tnx for support :love:
@CodeZero u get as much as wind lvl2( sometimes more) and u sell it for 250~200gold each thats 200x250=50k of easy money :D
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Thanks so much man, I'm farming right now but with shit set.

Now I can buy a nice set
call it even i loved your guide :love: :love:
EDIT: any question u might have or coment post here i was offline(chatching some ZZzzzZZZ) finished writing that guide very late so needed some sleep but im back now and weekend trafic as well :x so im all yours lol
P.S. i realy hope Aaron777 reply will be worth looking into

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w0w i always buy wind2!!!

i can save gold for not buying to the player

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Awesome guide man, I tried something similar to this with 4th degree armor and it didn't work to well :D

Thanks for taking the time to share your way of making money.

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vindicated01 wrote:
w0w i always buy wind2!!!

i can save gold for not buying to the player
Ok heres one that wants to make wind lvl2 to save money( nothing personal m8 ) can u do me BIG favore PLZZZZZZZZZZZ post here how did your saveing money went and did u in the end bought it just from some guy(which i belive will be outcome) but plz correct me if i am wrong it will be good for guide if u would post reply on this question of mine so plz do that if possible
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Awesome guide man, I tried something similar to this with 4th degree armor and it didn't work to well :D

Thanks for taking the time to share your way of making money.
tnx :D
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yes on any lvl but u wont profit from it this idea of mine works becouse blades are so cheap and u can profit from it i do not recomend buying 4th and > degree from npc u destroy it ( belive me i tested taht as well) but i do recomend destroying some drops u get later it IS usefull..some times very
tnx for proveing this point as well :love:
EDIT: im editing my posts in order not to double post i did it once before in this topic but i was practicly sleeping on keyboard :roll: thay wont happen again :wink:

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3rd degree armor chest gives you 5-7 wind 2 50% of the time also. Just to let you know.

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this is an awesome guide, but I guess you are lazy, being tired after the fourth time =P

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but how much it costs? 3rd degre armor chest. I bet in Posiedon this isnt Working

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mugen if you get on.. check your pm i made you a sig on sig-size from that pic ;)


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Only thing that sucks about this is selling elements lol.

I hate selling elements I never have any luck and I charge stuff for the lowest to middle price.
Bleh...

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