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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:39 am 
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DrWicked wrote:
So after 110 cap this build sucks ?

how can ppl know that if there aint a 110 cap yet? damn people ask such dumb questions.


and ye on 100 cap ima quit this game, takes enough time to even get 70 and on 100 cap you dont even mean anything anymore on 70-80..

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:58 pm 
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How does this build do in PvE?

I know its PvP based

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:23 pm 
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Lord of Thieves wrote:
How does this build do in PvE?

I know its PvP based

Read a bit.
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Verfo wrote:
Q: how fast does it level?


A: It levels pretty quickly if you know what you're doing.

Q: what level mobs should i grind on?

A: The mobs are in the guide.


'It levels pretty quickly if you know what you're doing.'

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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I'll be adding the blader, rogue, and wizard section Friday. I had to remember the strategies I came up with while building my 69:70.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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didnt someone else come up with this build in the 80 cap?
their was a topic bout it here

seems like a very interesting build baro :D
how far do you think you will make it with it ;D

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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I'll be adding the blader, rogue, and wizard section Friday. I had to remember the strategies I came up with while building my 69:70.

What type of blader will that be :?:

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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idk blader wasn't hard to kill with jade, at 36 i killed a 42 blader i loged with my theif suit and their was a trader going by, i killed them while i was unbuffed, it really didn't even take that long, all i managed to get up was my snow sheild plus fanspear, killed then im like 2 imbues time, of course they sucked all they did was combos, and failed to knock down, though higher lvl bladers get alot better, so its not really fair to assume based on this its that much better
but still this build owns one on one

but to me pure int spear was still more fun, this build was too much like glaive for me

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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i love heuksal move^^ but what do you mean int s/s try to debuff? u mean int s/s with force tree?


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:12 am 
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muyo wrote:
i love heuksal move^^ but what do you mean int s/s try to debuff? u mean int s/s with force tree?


Division Impotent and Bleed from the chains. Bleed can also be cast by flying stone smash.
@foudre, yeah; low lvl PvP was really easy. O.O

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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my plan was to make a pure str glaive, but since i saw this thread im gonna make this build, currently farming 67k/600k+ :P, ah well hope its done soon :)

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:37 am 
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you get 200k or so lvling from 1-90 with a 0 gap...
you don't need to farm 600k sp :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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thechampion80 wrote:
you get 200k or so lvling from 1-90 with a 0 gap...
you don't need to farm 600k sp :roll:

223,003 SP from 1-90 0 gap.
Well, thats what i made for ya guys.
ONLY MUST SKILLS 465K SP REQUIERED. Need to farm 242K SP.
WITH ALL OPTIONAL SKILLS 800K SP REQUIERED. Need to farm 557K SP.
i think ima make this build ^_^ Im going to take some optionals though.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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hm about the dps...

you didn't do this and I dont see many using it like this, but you can link galvie skills with lion shout, it is fast and it cools fairly quick, even if you have to use the lower lvl shout for faster cooldown so you can use it after every 1 or 2 moves


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:12 pm 
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um... why haven't you updated the guide yet?


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:56 pm 
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Great guide, may try create this build in the future. Many thanks


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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thechampion80 wrote:
um... why haven't you updated the guide yet?


Time constraints.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:26 pm 
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Great Guide Barotrix, will definatly be trying this build out :) Isnt it kinda close to d2A's build tho? Because he can use nukes also and has about the same amount of hp/mp.. i think

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Great Guide Barotrix, will definatly be trying this build out :) Isnt it kinda close to d2A's build tho? Because he can use nukes also and has about the same amount of hp/mp.. i think


D2A was always pure STR. STR nuker was just a coverup. Lol >.<

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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thechampion80 wrote:
um... why haven't you updated the guide yet?

some people may have a life, maybe you'll get that to.. once..

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Stress wrote:
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Great Guide Barotrix, will definatly be trying this build out :) Isnt it kinda close to d2A's build tho? Because he can use nukes also and has about the same amount of hp/mp.. i think


D2A was always pure STR. STR nuker was just a coverup. Lol >.<



Then why did his nukes do pretty decent dmg?(i think)

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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D2A never nuked. STR bows (and glaivers) don't nuke. >.>

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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First of all I've thought about making this build for a while (although much more int based) because I love hybrid spears.
However:
  • Your HP seems pretty, er, optimistic. Nivlam says that you'd have 21k HP if you had perfect alchemy and premium plus. The only way you could have 24k is if you were buffed by a Lv 90 Cleric in Light Armour.
  • I'd say that Flying Dragon Spear is a must have because of it's extra range. I'm pretty sure it goes further than nukes and if you're planning on using walls then you'll want it. Also at the 100 cap it's a 180% X 2 skill.
  • I don't think Warrior/Clerics will be to hard to kill. Good chinese ints are often the best at killing Warriors and you'd have enough HP to tank them while still dealing high damage. Warrior/Warlocks and Rogue/Warlocks are probably the most dangerous to this build.
Also you mentioned somewhere that at the 100 cap Force builds will have stun and I'm pretty sure Force gets stun at Lv 110.

to thechampion80: He isn't wrong about the MP, he would have 21k.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:55 pm 
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max hp is 21k and max mp is 19k

exaggerated stats :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Thank you TheMango and TheChampion for clearing that discrepancy but the stats were rounded and not exact. 19k (rounded) +4k passive (rounded) is 23k. Mp is ~21k. Exact stats would be 21k mp 22k hp (rounded). Better to round before adding than after adding. Thank you. :)

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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at this cap hp passive is ~2800
at 100 cap it is almost 4000
so wrong cap :P


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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thechampion80 wrote:
at this cap hp passive is ~2800
at 100 cap it is almost 4000
so wrong cap :P


O.O; I thought it was 3800 at this cap. Are you getting that from mmosite? They have a bad database. Well, if a FF Str has ~26k-27k hp and a Glaiver has about ~31k hp. That's around a 4k increase. :/ I need to find time to update the guide. I have it all written down in one of my spare notebooks.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:42 pm 
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well for the hp passive they aren't wrong (at least up to 80 cap-used another website to verify) :P


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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~UPDATED~
-Fixed HP.
-Added Blader.
-Added Bower.
-Started to hand write W/C section.
-Thinking of adding rogue/cleric section.
-Thinking of adding alternative builds to it.
Just need to finish writing the warrior/cleric part and it will be complete.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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ok you fixed the hp finally
told you :P
i thought you were also going to make a warlock section
but that will be hard :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Warlocks are annoying. You cast Ice Wall and they just go screw it and walk away until you get impatient.

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