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Author: | Barotix [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:19 am ] |
Post subject: | [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal |
69:70 Heuksal Guide INTRODUCTION: Why This build? Fire VS Light is the question all int based builds have to ask. It's a question of Power VS Speed. All in all Fire is the superior choice for a Hybrid. The point of going Hybrid is to capitalize on Physical Defense and HP; however, in exchange you sacrifice magical damage. Hybridizing removes the need for garms, puts less priority on Ice, and makes you stronger against both str and int. The more Hybrid you are the better you do against int and the longer you last against str. This build is all about PvP, Maxing at 22k HP and 21k MP this build has 4k less HP than a pure str, has Higher Physical and Magical defense than a pure int S/S, formidable offense, overwhelming DPS, 40% Snow Shield, and (overall) is the most balanced Chinese Build of the 90 cap! INDEX :
KEY:
1. Lvl 90 Heuksal:
2. Lvl 90 Fire:
3. Lvl 60 Ice:
4. Lvl 60 Light:
5. Lvl 90 Gear:
6. Player VS Environment: PART ONE: Where to grind.
HOW TO GRIND: Know how to grind is essential to good leveling. You don't want to use moves because they look pretty or moves that will leave you open for to long (I.E.) Standing in one place because everything is on cooldown: Here is your PvE Arsenal from 32-41:
In the beginning you will use: Lionshout~>Heuksal Spear~>Ghost Spear. Later @58+ you will use Lionshout~>Soul Spear~>Ghost Spear. In High Spawn areas you use a level 1 light imbue, your fire nuke, light nuke, and LionShout to AoE. Once you have a Large Group, use Heuksal Spear and Ghost Spear to kill them. This is most effective after level 41 when you have 2 Ghost Spears, 2 Soul Spears, Jade Breaking Spear, and more "Force based AoE". Gather them, then target one and use GSP(etal), then target another one and use GSP(rince), then target another and Use a Light Nuke followed by Jade Breaking Spear. Kill the spares with Soul Spear*2. That is the basic to AoE Grinding. Lure them with Nukes, Lion Shout, and Light Imbue then kill them with GS, Fire Imbue, SS, and HS. 7. Player VS Player: Part1: HP Heuksal builds need to keep one very important thing in mind: The amount of HP the Target has.
Part 2: S/S When going against an int S/S the First thing you need to know before charging in like a raging viking that took to many shots of vodka is that they can't kill you but you can kill them. Secondly: Int S/S can and will try to debuff you. An easy counter to this is throwing up an Ice Wall. Ice walls and fire walls stop debuffs and KD from effecting you. You now have the upper hand. The physical damage an S/S dishes out is so pitiful that your Ice wall will seldom be down. Third: Knowing their disadvantages and advantages. Their Snow Shield is 13% higher, they have a physical defense buff, they can debuff you, and they can interrupt you with KD, they have a shield constantly equipped; however, they have 13k hp, no magical defense buff, weaker moves, weaker imbue, and less DPS. You can deal more damage than they can in a shorter amount of time and you can outlast them in a serious battle. Their advantages are offset by the following tactical advantages: Their Snow Shield is as much an adherence as it is a God-Send. Sure they can tank for 2 extra minutes but when those two minutes are up they're mince meat and during those two minutes the damage done on them and the mp their moves use take a serious tole on their defense. Meaning what? They don't stand a snowball's chance in hell. Just keep in mind their low HP and low damage. When they have Snow Shield wait for a crit, follow up with a Windless then GSSC. It will finish them. The reason you use Windless before GSSC is because the Heuksal Spear series keeps a good and fast flow between your moves. Make sure to equip your Shield after using GSSC. Part 3: Glaiver You should see a routine forming: First off cast a firewall. Glaivers may not have debuffs but they can KB, stun, and dull you. Fire Wall removes the fear of interruption from the back of your head. Next Lesson is DPS: Maintaining a high DPS is essential to good PvP. An example of low DPS is:SSE~>SSS~>GS and repeat. Because Glaivers have such a massive amount of HP you want to maintain a steady stream of quick attacks, good EX: SSE~>SSS~>WS. Keep using that pattern until you get Dull. If Dull isn't pilled away start using SSE followed by SSS. When you stun them after a strong crit throw in a Flame Wave Wide to set them, then to keep the speed up launch WS and finish with GS. Just keep this in Mind: Glaivers aren't who you should be worried about. The true adversary of this build is the W/C. The worst Glaivers can do to you is reduce your magical damage and it's only for 15 seconds. Just practice your shield switching and you should be fine. Part 4: Blader @Blader: A Blader has a shield and the ability to increase it's defense for 15 seconds. It has the ability to cast 3 major debuffs: division, bleed, and impotent. @Debuffs: Because most bladers are pure str and lack a physical based stun casting a firewall will prevent all debuffs (except bleed) and knockdown techniques from being cast. This gives you a large advantage offensively. Without debuffs and a quad stab the Blader won't kill you. Use the shield and buff tactics that were reviewed earlier to prevent the Blader from gaining Momentum. Use your shield when you're knocked down, use your shield after Ghost Spear, use Snow Shield sparingly, and always recast firewall. @DPS: Use Emperor, Soul, and Windless until you cast dull. Once dull is cast focus on Emperor and Soul. It is safe to use FWW for extra damage. It's good and should do about the same damage as a full Soul. Make sure to keep his HP (~26k compared to your 22k) and the damage you have done in mind. Once he hits what I like to call the critical period tap GSSC to finish him. Part 5: Bow @Bowmen: ---*There are only a few things you need to worry about when fighting a Bowman. ---*The first thing is match resets. It doesn't happen often but some Bowmen have a habit of using phantom when Arrow combo is on cool-down and their hp is low. This resets the match allowing both of you to regain HP. ---*The second thing is strongbow. The strongest physical attack in the Chinese arsenal. It boast a critical increase, range increase, and a low stun probability. @Phantom: When they use phantom it's usually followed with a strongbow to prevent your hp from going back up. What he's doing is capitalizing on his range. They use it when you cast Fire-Wall or Ice-Wall and they use it when their HP is running low. Your nukes can't keep up and neither can Dragon flow. What you're going to need to do is equip your shield and follow through with a phantom. The average Bow is 90 light. That gives them 23.5m of range. You have 19m. Thats 4.5m difference. It isn't much but once you close the gap switch back to your spear and use the last dragon flow book followed by Emperor. Just play it safe and don't let them lead you around. @Strongbow: The solution is simple: Whenever you see strongbow equip your shield. Reduces the probability of a critical, it might block, and it reduces damage. Your shield will become your best friend. Part 6: Warrior/Cleric Part 7: TACTICS&EXPLANATIONS
8. Q&A: If you have any questions about fighting other builds feel free to post them and I will respond accordingly. Q: Is the sword Mandatory? A: The Sword is Optional but I like to have it anyway. 9. Credit: GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE: |
Author: | magisuns [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:23 am ] |
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Very well done Barotix, no less than expected. As a person who has used this build I think you have nailed nearly everything done, i'll wait until it is a complete guide before i start with my blablabla. But for now, awesome work. |
Author: | Tasdik [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:54 am ] |
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Barotix wrote: [*]Snow Shield Series
Typo = D |
Author: | Tasdik [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:55 am ] |
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OH and nice guide |
Author: | Asteroid [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:43 am ] |
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hey i dont understand... isnt this a heuksal build? and why do you use a sword and shield. but great guide, i like how everything is thoroughly explained |
Author: | Barotix [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:52 am ] |
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Asteroid wrote: hey i dont understand... isnt this a heuksal build? and why do you use a sword and shield. but great guide, i like how everything is thoroughly explained The Sword and Shield is for when you're luring with nukes. After you grab a massive group of mobs you don't want to get raped with your spear and you still want to do enough damage to set them. =] --- off to bed for me. |
Author: | Asteroid [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:10 am ] |
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Barotix wrote: Asteroid wrote: hey i dont understand... isnt this a heuksal build? and why do you use a sword and shield. but great guide, i like how everything is thoroughly explained The Sword and Shield is for when you're luring with nukes. After you grab a massive group of mobs you don't want to get raped with your spear and you still want to do enough damage to set them. =] --- off to bed for me. oh i understand thats good but costly in gold |
Author: | magisuns [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:15 am ] |
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edit0rze |
Author: | foudre [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:47 am ] |
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only one thing i think is that flying dragon is a must for ctf, and it is a fast high% plus aoe, so its good for grinding too, front peircing aoe instead of behind, so aim for a mob behind others and you hit both with a good strong hit |
Author: | Stress [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:59 am ] |
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Great guide! I liked the way you explained luring. That's how I grind Glaivers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv30cdWhBaU IMO, nukes are needed. Not all of them, but FWW in any case. In the video, FWW deals 8k and SSS roughly 10k. In the end, when the % of FWW rises, it might just end up doing the same damage as a SSS. |
Author: | Floor [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:57 am ] |
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Superb! Really intresting build , i might farm it before 100 cap comes out. One question, what masteries should we do when 100 cap comes? 100 heuksal, 100 fire, 50 light, 50 cold? |
Author: | Hustlar [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:21 pm ] |
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sounds like a fun build |
Author: | CloudStrider [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:50 pm ] |
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What does 69:70 mean? |
Author: | Stress [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:06 pm ] |
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CloudStrider wrote: What does 69:70 mean? 69% physical balance, 70% magical balance, naked. It's close to a 1:2 INT balance, but with more STR. |
Author: | CloudStrider [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:03 pm ] |
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Nice, this build looks great. |
Author: | Stress [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:13 pm ] |
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100 cap brings about the need for typhoons: 100 heuksal / 100 fire / 60 cold / 40 light. Magical attack drops, but HP increases dramatically from the passive. My thought: 69:70 balance at level 90, pure INT from then onwards. |
Author: | CloudStrider [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:21 pm ] |
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Stress wrote: 100 cap brings about the need for typhoons: 100 heuksal / 100 fire / 60 cold / 40 light. Magical attack drops, but HP increases dramatically from the passive. My thought: 69:70 balance at level 90, pure INT from then onwards. Man, all these cap changes! How long till 100 cap? Also what is the averaging good build for 100? I know it's the player but what are people picking? |
Author: | Stress [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:48 pm ] |
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CloudStrider wrote: Stress wrote: 100 cap brings about the need for typhoons: 100 heuksal / 100 fire / 60 cold / 40 light. Magical attack drops, but HP increases dramatically from the passive. My thought: 69:70 balance at level 90, pure INT from then onwards. Man, all these cap changes! How long till 100 cap? Also what is the averaging good build for 100? I know it's the player but what are people picking? [off-topic] Glaivers do great at 100 cap. Bladers aren't bad either, I guess. light/ice builds are no longer ice immune, making them vulnerable to STR ice builds. My 100 cap build ideas: 100 light / 100 cold / 100 weapon (pure INT 1 vs. 1 PvP build). 60% snow means they hardly get killed in snow. 100 fire / 100 light / 100 ice (pure INT group PvP & unique hunting build). 100 fire / 100 weapon / 100 ice (or 100 fire / 100 weapon / 80 light / 20 cold & 100 weapon / 100 fire / 60 ice / 40 light) for full STR. Full STR bows with cold imbue and 5&6 arrow combos rape INT's. Combo until snow is down, then: Combo -> Demon arrow -> Strong bow -> Anti-Devil -> Anti-devil (in this order, to keep DPS high). Also, there's the force alternatives: 100 bicheon / 100 force / 100 fire (maybe STR hybrid, stun debuff can compensate for the lack in HP, note that snow shield is missing, though). 100 light / 100 ice / 100 force. And an unconventional build suggested by some people: Hybrid INT bow with 100 ice , 100 pacheon and 100 force. (also, some people go STR hybrid light/force/pacheon ) IMO, 100 cap opens the way for many build alternatives for chinese. Force is an interesting alternative, and STR builds get to chose clearly between having ice or light. INT looks pretty clear, but suffers from the lack of ice immunity. Can't wait to see what builds people will choose for 100 cap. It's going to be interesting. [/off-topic] |
Author: | Floor [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:44 pm ] |
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will pure int 100 fire / 100 light /100 ice be good at 100 cap? @ grinding etc.. I dont know yet , im going to farm a 100 cap chinese char in some time.. Atm i have 2 builds in my eyes. The one with the guide here and fire light ice int build.. But will they be good @ grinding etc..? |
Author: | Verfo [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:40 pm ] |
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so this is your secret build that u dint want to tell me? and can this build work with no snow shield? |
Author: | foudre [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:35 pm ] |
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Floor wrote: Superb! Really intresting build , i might farm it before 100 cap comes out. One question, what masteries should we do when 100 cap comes? 100 heuksal, 100 fire, 50 light, 50 cold? that doesn't sound the smart why not try doing what fudge recomended for strs you are close enough to str for the same thoughts to apply, i can't remember but it was like 57 light i think let me look for it real fast i'll post link to his thread |
Author: | Sovereign [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:51 pm ] |
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Very Nice Guide. Very informative and easy on the eyes, i want a sticky for this. I might base a new character off this. I just have a few questions. - Either i missed it or you didn't mention but what would you recommend what you put your stats up into as you lvl? - Do you think this build could be used in ESCRO (90 Cap but skills capped at 70) and if so then what would the build look like then. Otherwise really solid guide, im impressed. Although one thing for the future. Include how much Sp it would cost for full farm, instead of linking off to Nivlam, its better for lazy people like me :p Thanks for the guide |
Author: | Barotix [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:40 am ] |
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Sovereign wrote: Very Nice Guide. Very informative and easy on the eyes, i want a sticky for this. I might base a new character off this. I just have a few questions. - Q: Either i missed it or you didn't mention but what would you recommend what you put your stats up into as you lvl? - Q: Do you think this build could be used in ESCRO (90 Cap but skills capped at 70) and if so then what would the build look like then. Otherwise really solid guide, im impressed. Although one thing for the future. Include how much Sp it would cost for full farm, instead of linking off to Nivlam, its better for lazy people like me :p Thanks for the guide A: Add STR and INT until your naked magical balance is 70% and your naked physical balance is 69% A: IMO, this build will fall flat on it's face in ECSRO. Quote: Q: so this is your secret build that u dint want to tell me? Q: and can this build work with no snow shield? A: Yes this is the secret build <3 A: I usually leveled and pvped without snowshield. I only use Snow Shield in sticky situations. |
Author: | Hustlar [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:12 am ] |
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i would love to see some pvp of it |
Author: | Sovereign [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:09 pm ] |
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Hustlar wrote: i would love to see some pvp of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv30cdWhBaU |
Author: | Floor [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:52 pm ] |
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how to add stats for this build? 2 str 1 int > 2 int 1 str > repeat ? |
Author: | CloudStrider [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:03 pm ] |
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Floor wrote: how to add stats for this build? 2 str 1 int > 2 int 1 str > repeat ? It's basically 2 INT 1 STR every level with a bit more STR. |
Author: | Floor [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:32 pm ] |
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CloudStrider wrote: Floor wrote: how to add stats for this build? 2 str 1 int > 2 int 1 str > repeat ? It's basically 2 INT 1 STR every level with a bit more STR. that doesn't make any sense to me.. You said 2 INT 1 STR but a bit more str..? <.< |
Author: | Barotix [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:47 pm ] |
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Floor wrote: CloudStrider wrote: Floor wrote: how to add stats for this build? 2 str 1 int > 2 int 1 str > repeat ? It's basically 2 INT 1 STR every level with a bit more STR. that doesn't make any sense to me.. You said 2 INT 1 STR but a bit more str..? <.< It's 2 str 3 int which is equal to 69:70 naked balance. |
Author: | omgomg123 [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:23 pm ] |
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lol now i am going to make my 7:1 spear hybrid to 69:70 hybrid.....and Barotix Very Nicely created guide |
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