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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:32 am 
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amazing guide and very interesting build barotix.

i have a few questions.

1. where it says "When you finish:" there are maxed heuksal skills and fire nuke, but i also see a lightning nuke. why get light nukes if your only maxing it at 60?

The light nuke is just for luring. At higher levels you make a choice between mobbing and power grinding.

2. i have a spear char right now, 7:1 lvl 33. is there a good balance between 7:1 and 69:70 that still deals nice damage with nukes?

5:1 is a good balance between the two and still packs a punch.


3. also, if i do go between this build and 7:1, will i still be able to go 90:90:60:60?

90/90/60/60 is very good for Hybrids overall, but some prefer Higher/lower Ice/light; Increasing/decreasing light/ice depends on what you want from your character. If you think you might lack physical defense then add some more ice; if you want speed, parry, and higher magical attack then add some more light. =]

thanks very much 8)


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:14 am 
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ahh ok thanks, i think i will go 5:1 then. maybe add a bit more light than ice since ill have more HP with 5:1 anyways... this will be a fun build :D

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:23 am 
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4reaLz wrote:
this will be a fun build


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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do heuk/fire/light do huge damage compare to heuk/light/ice? How about defense than?

Since when i compare prot and garment and match it with mastery taken i found that:

garment w/o fire have better mag. defense than protector+fire mag defense(+171 at level 89)

i also found that garment+ice phy defense(+132 ice guard+132 cold passive=264)have better phy def that protector w/o ice.


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Hybrids are kinda questionable build...
For me sword and shield with Fire force & Cold sub is enough regardless of lightning... And I'm Pure Int.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Eraser_Rain wrote:
Hybrids are kinda questionable build...
For me sword and shield with Fire force & Cold sub is enough regardless of lightning... And I'm Pure Int.


wait a minute NO light??? :roll: :banghead:


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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one question: for calculating 1:5 ratio should i calculate str/int or int/str ??


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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trying out this guide so far its working out great

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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You say that you max it at 22k HP & 21k MP
I know heuksal gives more str, but I don't think you'll get to 22K and what bout the MP?

When i calculate with char builder i get :

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Lincoln wrote:
You say that you max it at 22k HP & 21k MP
I know heuksal gives more str, but I don't think you'll get to 22K and what bout the MP?

Barotix was talking about the build with a Full Blues set. If I recall correctly, I really am not sure, you can get a total of 66 STR on a full pimped set 9 Degree, plus HP blues which I really don't know how much they add, though I believe/heard its a good amount. That plus the Heuksal passive which at lvl 90 increases your hp by 2826 points (not STR points), and you'll almost certainly get 22k hp.

EDIT: Oh, by the way, excelent guide and idea Barotix. :)

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:39 pm 
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Ok thanks :D

PS : These are the stats to 69:70 maybe you can add them to your Guide.

http://rapidshare.com/files/172468403/Stats.txt

Hope it's usefull :D

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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just found our guide. sounds a little fraky but i like it and im gonna try it out !

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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would love to see this build in action when fullfarm and at cap^^


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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crap :x i put 1 point wrong and now i get eevery time 69phys and 71mag. can i correct it somehow or is it so bad?

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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thechampion80 wrote:
you can readjust it



and how? never had an hybrid

when im naked, and put the stats, then i always have 1point over. and im already 69:70

edit: yeah your right, it worked (when im naked), but when i put my clothes,acc and weapon on then im 70:70

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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That's because you have stats on your clothes ;) but if you follow my statpoint guide you can never be wrong ;)

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Lincoln wrote:
That's because you have stats on your clothes ;) but if you follow my statpoint guide you can never be wrong ;)


ah ok thxs. about the guide, im gonna put that in a excel chart, so that i can see it better :D

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Np ;) And if you put 1 point wrong it's no problem, you just compensate with the next lvl.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Just one question, have you ever played on a cap'd 69:70 heuksal?

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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has anyone tried this build with a s/s? i have a lv 69 70:70 bow atm, was thinking of deleveling it for heuksal but i already have a lv 85 spear. would this build be good with a s/s is what i wanna know, i wanna try something new besides spear.


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Why would this build not work on ecsro? and if someone could calculate for me how much str you put in for a 1:5 build that would be great :D


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Great guide !

1 little fault: at the mobs to lvl at 33-35 is the picture of a Blood Ong and a MaOng, I think this Maong needs to be a regular Ong

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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Im still confused on this Hybrid.. 69 : 70 does it need to be done over 5 levels then repeat.. seeing at it wont crate a multiple of 3, after 1 level. So if i level from 1- 2 i would go 2 INT 1 STR, then next level i would go 1 STR and 1 STR and save 1 point?

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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for me its easier to remove gear/avatar to get 69:70 or 70:69 or 70:70 balance.


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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ok i got alot of questions ( becuase im still new to this game since ive never hit lvl 70 yet..)

Q1: What is Windless and GSSC??
Q2: what is SSE~>SSS~>GS
Q3: what is WS
Q4: what is Gs?
Q5: what is W/C?
Q6: What is emperor and soul?
Q7: and how do you kno when is the right time to cast ice and fire wall and then ice shield still confuse ahaha.
Q8: wen u said 2 str 3 int how do u do that? thought its just 2int 1 str every lvl

thnxs nice guide btw cant wait till im lvl 90 even tho im sp farming at 16...


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
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ah here is another reply sry i didnt read all of the post and stuff yet

When u say 80:80 = 69:70 dose that mean we need to make our stats 80:80 naked?


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Im still confused on this Hybrid.. 69 : 70 does it need to be done over 5 levels then repeat.. seeing at it wont crate a multiple of 3, after 1 level. So if i level from 1- 2 i would go 2 INT 1 STR, then next level i would go 1 STR and 1 STR and save 1 point?

Every time you level, take off everything that increases your STR and/or INT (better is take off all your equipment if you are unsure), then level your stats to get as close as possible to 70% physical balance and 70% magical balance.

jlpower wrote:
Q1: What is Windless and GSSC??
Q2: what is SSE~>SSS~>GS
Q3: what is WS
Q4: what is Gs?
Q6: What is emperor and soul?

These are all name of skills, all you have to do is read.

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Q7: and how do you kno when is the right time to cast ice and fire wall and then ice shield still confuse ahaha.

You'll discover these by yourself once you play the game, really.

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Q8: wen u said 2 str 3 int how do u do that? thought its just 2int 1 str every lvl

This is not how it's supposed to work. The correct way is: every time you level, take off all your equipment, then level your stats so your magical balance and physical balance can both get as close to 70% as possible, once you try it, you'll understand. It's not that hard.

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ah here is another reply sry i didnt read all of the post and stuff yet
When u say 80:80 = 69:70 dose that mean we need to make our stats 80:80 naked?

No. Your stats naked must be as close as possible to 70% mag 70% phy, this is all that matters. Forget about that 80:80 thing, you are never going to use it.

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Q5: what is W/C?

A european build: warrior main class, cleric subclass, so Warrior/Cleric (W/C).

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:14 pm 
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raphaell666 wrote:
Nawps wrote:
Im still confused on this Hybrid.. 69 : 70 does it need to be done over 5 levels then repeat.. seeing at it wont crate a multiple of 3, after 1 level. So if i level from 1- 2 i would go 2 INT 1 STR, then next level i would go 1 STR and 1 STR and save 1 point?

Every time you level, take off everything that increases your STR and/or INT (better is take off all your equipment if you are unsure), then level your stats to get as close as possible to 70% physical balance and 70% magical balance.

jlpower wrote:
Q1: What is Windless and GSSC??
Q2: what is SSE~>SSS~>GS
Q3: what is WS
Q4: what is Gs?
Q6: What is emperor and soul?

These are all name of skills, all you have to do is read.

jlpower wrote:
Q7: and how do you kno when is the right time to cast ice and fire wall and then ice shield still confuse ahaha.

You'll discover these by yourself once you play the game, really.

jlpower wrote:
Q8: wen u said 2 str 3 int how do u do that? thought its just 2int 1 str every lvl

This is not how it's supposed to work. The correct way is: every time you level, take off all your equipment, then level your stats so your magical balance and physical balance can both get as close to 70% as possible, once you try it, you'll understand. It's not that hard.

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ah here is another reply sry i didnt read all of the post and stuff yet
When u say 80:80 = 69:70 dose that mean we need to make our stats 80:80 naked?

No. Your stats naked must be as close as possible to 70% mag 70% phy, this is all that matters. Forget about that 80:80 thing, you are never going to use it.

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Q5: what is W/C?

A european build: warrior main class, cleric subclass, so Warrior/Cleric (W/C).

ahhhh ok thnxs


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