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 Post subject: Re: wantux
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:20 pm 
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admits to using loader and there's evidence. No one even bothered reporting -.- Seems like the rest of this community is fine having loader users.

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hehe got me ^^ , I guess i will get ban now , but Im using only loader for login , no mc no bot , cuz botting with warrior is bullshit , like 1%/h -_- when in pt i get 10%/h , well u can ban now ^^



Isn't he also saying that he bots? Or botted. Though i know it might not be sufficent.

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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[quote="ofy1993"]admits to using loader and there's evidence. No one even bothered reporting -.- Seems like the rest of this community is fine having loader users.


Reading the past threads, I wouldn't really think so...


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 Post subject: Re: wantux
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:05 pm 
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admits to using loader and there's evidence. No one even bothered reporting -.- Seems like the rest of this community is fine having loader users.

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hehe got me ^^ , I guess i will get ban now , but Im using only loader for login , no mc no bot , cuz botting with warrior is bullshit , like 1%/h -_- when in pt i get 10%/h , well u can ban now ^^



Isn't he also saying that he bots? Or botted. Though i know it might not be sufficent.


I was wondering the same thing. I'm sure it's not nearly enough proof of actual botting, but it is suspicious. I have no idea what kind of exp/hr rates bots get on different builds seeing as how I've never botted. So yeah, it's suspicious at least.

I know loader use only gets a temp ban here, but wantux doesn't seem too concerned about being banned, "I guess I will get ban now... well u can ban now." I get the feeling a temp ban won't make him stop using a loader, and he'll just continue using it when he's unbanned. Maybe.

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:20 pm 
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I get the feeling a temp ban won't make him stop using a loader, and he'll just continue using it when he's unbanned. Maybe.


duhh. That's why I'm proposing perm bans to loader -.- What part of banning someone for 7 days get's rid of the loader? Can't I just come back with the same evidence and say hello, he's still using it....


Didn't realize you were trying to get it changed to a perm ban for loader. I have to agree since the person can just come back a week later and continue using the loader.

Some people might not see loaders as being equally "bad" as botting, and therefore would say loader doesn't deserve as harsh a penalty. I just don't think a 7-day ban really does anything. It just means they have to wait a little longer to contribute to a thread, but they'll be back.

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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... maybe someone used the report button, rather than having to make their owwn thread about it???

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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Some people might not see loaders as being equally "bad" as botting,



someone please explain the difference. By rules, you're still breaking the "No 3rd Party Programs rule" therefore, no differnce. You're corrupting Silkroad as much as guy who's running 30 clientless.


Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that I see any difference. A third party program (that gives advantage) is a 3rd party program. Loaders give an advantage, and so do bots. Vent also gives an advantage (easier to chat verbally instead of via text), but I don't think SRF will start banning for vent use. At least vent can't be used to control the client.

I was just saying some might see it as loaders only give you an advantage of logging in, and it stops there, whereas bots give you 24x7 advantage. This is assuming the user doesn't use the other loader features aside from auto login. Not that we can prove that.

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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What part of banning someone for 7 days get's rid of the loader? Can't I just come back with the same evidence and say hello, he's still using it....


Lol damn your pathetic, and just plain retarded.

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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What part of banning someone for 7 days get's rid of the loader? Can't I just come back with the same evidence and say hello, he's still using it....


Lol damn your pathetic, and just plain retarded.


How is ofy pathetic and retarded for saying that? There's truth there. Temp ban isn't going to stop people from using loaders any more than perm bans will stop people from botting, but we're letting loader users come back after a short break. Only thing that should change about ofy's post is when the loader user comes back, we'll have to post new evidence. Does that mean we should only temp-ban botters? When they come back, the slate is clean and we have to find new evidence? No, I don't think so. :)

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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as you said ofy there's a report button, use it next time.

no need for this thread.

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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No one even bothered reporting

... maybe someone used the report button, rather than having to make their owwn thread about it???


I was gonna try that button but it doesn't really have a loader/bot report thing on it.

And they could not have done that cause no mod did anything. I doubt any mod would want to keep loader users -.-

just because a mod doesnt act when we deem fit, doesnt mean they wont.

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:59 pm 
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as you said ofy there's a report button, use it next time.

no need for this thread.


then why the hell is there an EB section? Why doesn't everyone just use the button.

ummm..... i think the purpose of the EB section is to post proof that you have acquired of members of the forum boting. The bloke just posted a pic that shows he uses a loader.

Just save the picture and report it to the mods and send the picture if the poster removes it. All you've done is posted a link to the thread, quite lazy attempt imho.

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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wannabe mods :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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If everyone who used a loader got a perm ban, there'd be like a total of 5 players and 20 non-players left on this forum. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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JuelzSantana wrote:
wannabe mods :roll:


You don't need to repeat your post in every thread, we clearly understand your message.
But you don't become a mod by exposing a botter or being nice, you become a mod when applications are open and when you apply.

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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wannabe mods :roll:


You don't need to repeat your post in every thread, we clearly understand your message.
But you don't become a mod by exposing a botter or being nice, you become a mod when applications are open and when you apply.


no offense but u dont need to read it either, and i know u dont become a mod by that but the way i see it is like, these people are taking it to heart to do this even suggesting crazy rules like the 1 suggested in this topic. it is what it is lol

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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JuelzSantana wrote:
...suggesting crazy rules like the 1 suggested in this topic...


I propose a new rule: only new rules proposed by JuelzSantana (member since April, 2009) shall be considered and discussed.

After this proposed rule, of course.


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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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...suggesting crazy rules like the 1 suggested in this topic...


I propose a new rule: only new rules proposed by JuelzSantana (member since April, 2009) shall be considered and discussed.

After this proposed rule, of course.

cool glad were on the same page ;)

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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TBHIMO wannabe mods are the best thing in the interwebz.

If this forum needs something moar, wannabe mods, like Lempi but worst.

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TBHIMO wannabe mods are the best thing in the interwebz.

If this forum needs something moar, wannabe mods, like Lempi but worst.

LOL!!

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 Post subject: Re: wantux
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I get the feeling a temp ban won't make him stop using a loader, and he'll just continue using it when he's unbanned. Maybe.


duhh. That's why I'm proposing perm bans to loader -.- What part of banning someone for 7 days get's rid of the loader? Can't I just come back with the same evidence and say hello, he's still using it....


We do perma-ban for loader use if they're all giddy about it. "Ah gee guyz, I used a loader; 7 day ban now? guess I get banned now, cya guys." Yah, fck that noize. "Cya in 30-Never" is more like it, but he's already banned so yeah. ;)

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as you said ofy there's a report button, use it next time.

no need for this thread.


then why the hell is there an Exposed Botterssection? Why doesn't everyone just use the button.


nuff said?

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