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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:41 pm 
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Someone from SuddenDeath venus got banned as well.

http://www.rev6.com/stats/venus/sv10ban51-100.asp
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coincedence? i think jm fails.
but yeah w/e people want drama, people get drama (goes for everyone)

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:43 pm 
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These bans are weird. Reminds me wong's ban...wdf


Wong on persia, Fly on Xian.
Sly was said to have several level 80 accounts.
Deacon had two level 80s that I know of and was an 0x33 member.

An inactive level 39 (who has been 39 for 3-4 months), is sure the work of a botter. That totally makes sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:07 pm 
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Someone from SuddenDeath venus got banned as well.

http://www.rev6.com/stats/venus/sv10ban51-100.asp
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28 Soul_Str SuddenDeath TheDarkDevil 2008-06-30


coincedence? i think jm fails.
but yeah w/e people want drama, people get drama (goes for everyone)


Yeah, shoulda kicked that dumbass sooner. We just added him to guild and he's already banned.

What did you mean by "coincedence"?

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:09 pm 
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No way Barotix has botted...That's impossible

@ Fudge : What's with samarkand oO was it a joke or u were serious

Eh Sylhana and Deacon botted, too. Hard to believe. *Already explained in above post*


lol i knew Syhana botted, played on same server as him. I never said it was unbilievable for others, im saying it's unbelievable for Barotix.

Why?

Cause he didnt even play that char, never got past 40, hardly logs in, even hardly leave town.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:30 pm 
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You don't have to be botting to be on these ban lists. Theres several people up to date that have been using older clients / loaders / messing with pk2's that are on the bot ban list. It's lame.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:29 pm 
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Joymax isn't giving reasons for the bans.
all the bans just say your accounts blocked til july 2108.
it would be helpful if they gave reasons like they used to, but o well.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:18 pm 
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Oh wow, this really sucks..

What the hell?

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:25 pm 
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Explain the ban then...


How am supposed to explain the ban? As if I know what goes through Joymax' god damn head when coming up with bullshit ban list. That list obviously isn't restricted to botters.

We know how Joymax describes their bans. There is always a reason in the bottom left corner, check my sig. Check my avy, hell check my account for yourself:

ID: Xhonpanim
Pass: 4cl14m15m3

It says Punishment description, not Chargeback, not JM impersonation, and not Illegal Program Use.

I rarely play, the game has lost its value. When I log in, I usually don't leave town. I try to log in right before ctf begins because thats the only PvP action I can expect from Venus at 3x.



Why dont you call joymax and ask for the reason? The least they can do is TELL you why you got banned.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:31 pm 
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did u by any chance transfer ur items in samarkand

Yes, why?

That's illegal. You could get banned for that. Pff another samarkand transfer junkie.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Anyway, here's my post from SRA. Everything's been said here but for what it's worth:

Barotix played that char in Avalon ages ago. He got booted for inactivity and joined Asylum. He played regularly for a few weeks then went on hiatus. He logged into that char once in the last 3 months just to tell us he was coming back. He rerolled, Barotix was booted and the new char was joined. He played regularly on his new char but slowed down the last few weeks. Barotix was lvl 38 three months ago and it's level 38 today. The reason for his ban is <Punishment Description> which means he didn't fall into any category. He's been vocally critical of JoyMax in the past and posted emails between JoyMax and a Turkish silk vendor that implied JoyMax had knowledge that one of their silk vendors sold bots but JM didn't take swift action. I suspect that someone at JM was irked and it caught up to him. This is speculation because I haven't spoken to Barotix yet but botting is out of the question.


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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:40 pm 
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Explain the ban then...


How am supposed to explain the ban? As if I know what goes through Joymax' god damn head when coming up with bullshit ban list. That list obviously isn't restricted to botters.

We know how Joymax describes their bans. There is always a reason in the bottom left corner, check my sig. Check my avy, hell check my account for yourself:

ID: Xhonpanim
Pass: 4cl14m15m3

It says Punishment description, not Chargeback, not JM impersonation, and not Illegal Program Use.

I rarely play, the game has lost its value. When I log in, I usually don't leave town. I try to log in right before ctf begins because thats the only PvP action I can expect from Venus at 3x.



Why dont you call joymax and ask for the reason? The least they can do is TELL you why you got banned.


Do you have their number?

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:41 pm 
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Main question is.. did you buy silk? How inactive was the account?

Seems like they're banning random people now to make the list look 'better' rofl.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:45 pm 
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Main question is.. did you buy silk? How inactive was the account?

Seems like they're banning random people now to make the list look 'better' rofl.


+1 at first I thought all the people complaining on the official forum that their account got banned for no reason were just lying but now I think that the system which detects the bots is bugged

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:46 pm 
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Toshiharu wrote:
Main question is.. did you buy silk? How inactive was the account?

Seems like they're banning random people now to make the list look 'better' rofl.


seems like it, only it aint 2 funny.
if i'dd get banned idd be fokking pissed off :(

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:48 pm 
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I wonder what Joymax will say when they realize something is wrong

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:55 pm 
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I wonder what Joymax will say when they realize something is wrong

They'll ignore it and say it isn't their problem. Like the account exploit.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:59 pm 
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funny how legits guild get more banned players than botting guilds, not talkin about venus, look into pacific, the only "so called legit guild" left in pacific is art of war, and look they have more banned playesrs than viet4ever surreal and espada thje top botting guilds lmao :D

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:02 pm 
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non ego man wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Anyway, here's my post from SRA. Everything's been said here but for what it's worth:

Barotix played that char in Avalon ages ago. He got booted for inactivity and joined Asylum. He played regularly for a few weeks then went on hiatus. He logged into that char once in the last 3 months just to tell us he was coming back. He rerolled, Barotix was booted and the new char was joined. He played regularly on his new char but slowed down the last few weeks. Barotix was lvl 38 three months ago and it's level 38 today. The reason for his ban is <Punishment Description> which means he didn't fall into any category. He's been vocally critical of JoyMax in the past and posted emails between JoyMax and a Turkish silk vendor that implied JoyMax had knowledge that one of their silk vendors sold bots but JM didn't take swift action. I suspect that someone at JM was irked and it caught up to him. This is speculation because I haven't spoken to Barotix yet but botting is out of the question.



ALL the people banned have that as the punishment decription, its been like that for weeks.
read the official forums. It doesnt say 'banned for illegal program use' or whatever anymore.
this is why we don't know anything.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:07 pm 
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If baro is a botter you can shoot me in the nuts
Theres no way....they are definately banning old accounts that don't get played anymore, it's the only thing I can think of.



I agree Vindiction from venus who has another character named
OrangeJuice got ban about 2 weeks ago an she never botted or anything

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:21 pm 
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If baro is a botter you can shoot me in the nuts
Theres no way....they are definately banning old accounts that don't get played anymore, it's the only thing I can think of.



I agree Vindiction from venus who has another character named
OrangeJuice got ban about 2 weeks ago an she never botted or anything

Vin got banned?
lol she quit a long time ago, and she never botted lmao
Inactive account ban anyone?

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:40 pm 
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can't believe barotix logged in game long enough to get banned :roll:


nah i get it, your fine in my book guy, a little inactive, but still fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:55 pm 
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ALL the people banned have that as the punishment decription, its been like that for weeks.

Well that's just brilliant.

The ban can't for botting. The character has been dead for months. If they had evidence of it being botted, why would they wait until the 7th or 8th or w/e weekly bot ban? He logged into the char once after the new bans started so botting just doesn't make any sense.

Transferring gear and money in Sam? I'm not going to put anything past JoyMax but I can't believe Barotix transferred any gear or gold that would have raised questions. If you look at his equipped gear, it's not all that special.

I remember a few months back someone getting banned for their anti-JM posts on the official SRO site. IIRC, it was an account made strictly for posting and it was banned after a particularly vivid critique. Barotix has never hidden his disdain for JoyMax as a company so that sounds to most reasonable to me.

I can't tell you whether he bought gold or used a modded client but it seems extremely unlikely. Look at his gear and how often he plays.


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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:33 pm 
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My 1st account that i made got ban at lvl. 26, Silkroad is the 1st MMO i ever play. When i got ban I had never bought any silk or even knew what a goldbot,bot was. it was 100% legit and the reason for the ban was Illegal program rofl. it was low lvl. so i made a new one.

My points is even if you are 100% legit the is a VERY small chance u will get ban. i'm sure that Joymax does not "Investigate" all accounts before banning them. at least nonsilk ones perhaps.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
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Have you tried logging into the official site might give you a better description like this i got for a random stall account oO.

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also got one of my older accounts said abusive language as a block reason.

edit also found this haha dunno what gaymax was thinking

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
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Have you tried logging into the official site might give you a better description like this i got for a random stall account oO.

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also got one of my older accounts said abusive language as a block reason.


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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:37 pm 
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What about this character of yours?
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=90526
Not accusing just wondering. Never seen a ban like that before.

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What about this character of yours?
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Not accusing just wondering. Never seen a ban like that before.


That isn't my character or my screen shot. The member who sent it to me wanted to remain confidential. I posted that for him/her.

@Fly, Pk2 isn't against the SRF rules. O.O

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
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just because your on a bot ban list does not mean your a bot. bot ban lists are people banned for everything other then chargeback.

illigal clients = bot ban
pk2 edit = bot ban
multi client = bot ban

all those are also bannable from srf.

but there are also things that are not bannable from srf. back in the day it was spawning monster scrolls. i know 3 people off the top of my head that got banned for that. i was one of them. all 3 showed up on the bot ban.

they could be banning outdated clients. i know alot of srf members use the old nodc client that joymax provided because it was legal on srf.

joymax is under new management. expect them to crack down on little things that you have gotten away with in the past. people who have those keyboards with macros built in should be carefull also.

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Did you pk2 edit?


Yes, I did Pk2 on Barotix.

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dam that sucks. hope u didnt lose anything worth while besides the char obviously

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