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 Post subject: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:50 am 
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Guys. Like I said, we are investigating this matter. We already heard what you guys said about evidences for and reasoning against "Barotix"'s ban. Please be patient while we look into this.

In the mean time, no more discussion about this unless you come up with solid proof for or against this case.


Is being on a recent banlist enough evidence to get someone banned from forum?

Yes, if the player was banned for "botting". As for malicious CCF and other 3rd party programs, we'll consider each case indivisually.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:52 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:06 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:31 am 
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no, if they're not using the botted character, they dun have to be banned right?

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:48 am 
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TOloseGT wrote:
no, if they're not using the botted character, they dun have to be banned right?


If they're not using it?? what, like botting a char for sox is ok aslong as your not "using" it to pvp?

If you meant that it may be their name on forum but not really their account, i'm pretty sure there are enough evidence to prove the char belongs to this person before exposing him.

I say, go ahead and expose Barotix, Mrjoey !

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:57 am 
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MUST be an active SRO account. There is now a moratorium of 90 days on all past evidence. If someone used to bot but quit the game, rerolled a legit account that they are currently playing and they are NOT playing the botted one, etc., they are no longer considered a threat to the integrity of the game and these forums and are granted a degree of leniency under those circumstances. CURRENT bot support by these users would still be subject to the appropriate penalties.

i stand corrected

he didn't bot, he wouldn't, he promised me! :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:29 pm 
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TOloseGT wrote:
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MUST be an active SRO account. There is now a moratorium of 90 days on all past evidence. If someone used to bot but quit the game, rerolled a legit account that they are currently playing and they are NOT playing the botted one, etc., they are no longer considered a threat to the integrity of the game and these forums and are granted a degree of leniency under those circumstances. CURRENT bot support by these users would still be subject to the appropriate penalties.

i stand corrected

he didn't bot, he wouldn't, he promised me! :cry:

Searching Barotix on rev6:
Last Modified 6/10/2008 11:09:26 PM
Not over 90 days, so he'll have to have like atleast 70 days to reflect on his actions =/

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:31 pm 
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lilly_ wrote:
Searching Barotix on rev6:
Last Modified 6/10/2008 11:09:26 PM
Not over 90 days, so he'll have to have like atleast 50 days to reflect on his actions =/


Lol wut? Baro plays on venus, his ign is ArmorCorp1, he's in the same guild as I am.


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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:32 pm 
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Nothing in the rules says that JoyMax ban lists are able to get a person banned here. That's why I asked, I wanted some clarification. People have been on the ban lists wrongfully in the past.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:01 pm 
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Last Modified 6/10/2008 11:09:26 PM

Last seen because ArmorCorp1 is a new character and I needed to transfer my Items from Barotix to Storage. Barotix is stripped atm.

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People have been on the ban lists wrongfully in the past.


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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:07 pm 
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did u by any chance transfer ur items in samarkand

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:13 pm 
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MrFudge wrote:
did u by any chance transfer ur items in samarkand


Yes, why?

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
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Barotix wrote:
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did u by any chance transfer ur items in samarkand


Yes, why?

That's illegal. You could get banned for that. Pff another samarkand transfer junkie.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:22 pm 
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Fly is not banned from SRF.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:26 pm 
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That is true, but that banlist he was on, is also very old.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:27 pm 
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Stress wrote:
Fly is not banned from SRF.


Fly isn't on a recent ban list for an ambiguous reason; granted, his reason is shrouded in ambiguity (as is mine) I most likely won't be an SRF mod or an SRF member any longer.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:32 pm 
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don't worry barotix just say you spawned monster summon scrolls on noobs and got banned for that reason, afaik it works. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:43 pm 
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MrFudge wrote:
don't worry barotix just say you spawned monster summon scrolls on noobs and got banned for that reason, afaik it works. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:46 pm 
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hmm so joymax really is just banning random accounts that haven't bought silk in the past 45 days? :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:50 pm 
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Barotix doesnt play his char Barotix. he plays his other char called ArmorCorp1 he is in Asylum and he is LEGIT. he rarely even logs in >.>.

and i doubt Barotix botted on his char called "Barotix", and even if he did, he doesnt play it anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:56 pm 
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he contributes more to these forums than 95% of the people here.
nuff said. why kill the forums even more, search past topics and just scroll through them, bet you'll find a handful of banned people in each one (discussion-worthy topics).
he's also one of the venus people that i bother reading the posts of, the rest i skim over cuz most of them are simply annoying and to be quite honest are all basically the same (lol avalon).

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:19 pm 
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FYI I'm not specifically trying to make it harder on Barotix, reading back on it, I realize it might have done that. This topic in specific was meant to just do that, clarify if ban list is ban worthy. Since Barotix doesn't even play the character named that, he isn't in violation of any rules even if the ban list was a viable reference for banning from forums.

Baro, I'd like to apologize if I've given you any undue stress or anything. Since you say Barotix was on a different account, and everyone knows you play Armorcorp1 now, I don't see any reason why you would need to be banned anyways. Some people might still argue that you're suspect and should lose moderator. For moderator, I don't really care either way, I think it should be fine if you keep it, but it is up to the rest of the moderator staff and ultimately, SuicideGirl.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:20 pm 
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MrFudge wrote:
he contributes more to these forums than 95% of the people here.
nuff said. why kill the forums even more, search past topics and just scroll through them, bet you'll find a handful of banned people in each one (discussion-worthy topics).
he's also one of the venus people that i bother reading the posts of, the rest i skim over cuz most of them are simply annoying and to be quite honest are all basically the same (lol avalon).


None of that matters. If they think I botted, then I'm gone. If not banned, then de-modded.
@Joey, they're on the same account.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:21 pm 
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If baro is a botter you can shoot me in the nuts
Theres no way....they are definately banning old accounts that don't get played anymore, it's the only thing I can think of.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:31 pm 
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Explain the ban then...

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:32 pm 
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No way Barotix has botted...That's impossible

@ Fudge : What's with samarkand oO was it a joke or u were serious

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
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Barotix wrote:
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he contributes more to these forums than 95% of the people here.
nuff said. why kill the forums even more, search past topics and just scroll through them, bet you'll find a handful of banned people in each one (discussion-worthy topics).
he's also one of the venus people that i bother reading the posts of, the rest i skim over cuz most of them are simply annoying and to be quite honest are all basically the same (lol avalon).


None of that matters. If they think I botted, then I'm gone. If not banned, then de-modded.
@Joey, they're on the same account.

Oh, misread an earlier post. Don't even know what to say now. Sorry though.

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Explain the ban then...


How am supposed to explain the ban? As if I know what goes through Joymax' god damn head when coming up with bullshit ban list. That list obviously isn't restricted to botters.

We know how Joymax describes their bans. There is always a reason in the bottom left corner, check my sig. Check my avy, hell check my account for yourself:

ID: Xhonpanim
Pass: 4cl14m15m3

It says Punishment description, not Chargeback, not JM impersonation, and not Illegal Program Use.

I rarely play, the game has lost its value. When I log in, I usually don't leave town. I try to log in right before ctf begins because thats the only PvP action I can expect from Venus at 3x.

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
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These bans are weird. Reminds me wong's ban...wdf

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 Post subject: Re: Ban lists.
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No way Barotix has botted...That's impossible

@ Fudge : What's with samarkand oO was it a joke or u were serious

Eh Sylhana and Deacon botted, too. Hard to believe. *Already explained in above post*

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