Silkroad Online Forums

A community forum for the free online game Silkroad Online. Discuss Silkroad Online, read up on guides, and build your character and skills.

Faq Search Members Chat  Register Profile Login

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 121 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:38 am 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 352
Location:
Venice
-.- wrote:
back up what point? he didnt say use 42% snow shield :S


he didnt say it...but with 72 ice..i think you get 42% snow shield

_________________
<< banned for racism. -cin >>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:45 am 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1921
Location: http://goo.gl/Lfwa
you also get ice imbue and nuke too... you going to use them also?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:49 am 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 352
Location:
Venice
-.- wrote:
you also get ice imbue and nuke too... you going to use them also?


dont be a smartass...lol

_________________
<< banned for racism. -cin >>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:22 am 
Banned User
Offline

Joined: May 2008
Posts: 245
Location: hell
subzero wrote:
MrFudge, u make a few dam good arguments..ill give that to ya..but using 72 ice would only be good for PHYS DEFENSE...snow shield that lvl is pointless man...think of like 42% snow shield when your pure str...your MP will disappear quicker than a cake in-front of a FAT KID. and when u lose all your MP..you cant phantom away or use ANY skill, making you a sitting duck. ALSO, when your MP runz out, you cant move + damage starts decreasing your HP..then ur rlly fcked.

i want to see a valid argument back to this please..since your good at backing your points up.


you simply dont use the last snow shield book and use the first book? Lol.

_________________
<<banned from SRF for rules violations. -SG>>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:23 am 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1147
Location:
Troy
borat2 wrote:
With all that defense you will be indeed a cape fight hero, but would love to see a glaive with 100% speed potion trying to catch anyone with ghost walk, movement is important in this game too bad most PVP in Isro is done with the casual "sir you stand there, i stand here and we smash few keys until one dies." :banghead:


+1 I lol'd

if I can survive against sun 2hand +7 with +5 protector set (no 89/90/leg/chest or 89 neck)with snow shield for 90 sec and win @ the end then I don't need more phy. def. with the addition of vigors this would only get easier.

Only those that are afraid of 2hand euros will take ice over light period. :)

_________________
<< banned for proof of botting. -cin >>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:18 am 
Regular Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 337
Location:
Olympus
So what about

90 Weap
90 Ice
90 Light
30 Fire?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:27 am 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1147
Location:
Troy
TeamLosi wrote:
So what about

90 Weap
90 Ice
90 Light
30 Fire?


any str. build without fire is fail imo

lets see
loose the best imbue
loose 9% phy. dmg increase
loose huge amount of mag. def increase
need more blues for immunity
loose the phy.% increase passive

all of this just to get phy. def increase :?

_________________
<< banned for proof of botting. -cin >>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:34 am 
Regular Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 337
Location:
Olympus
Good point on the immunity, forgot about that


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:13 am 
Forum Legend
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7129
Location:
Venus
why 72 ice? stay 60 ice 60 light. the +80 phys def is good enough.

_________________
ImageImage


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:00 am 
Common Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 176
Location: bot accusation country
yea, 90 wep 90 fire 72 light/cold 48 light/cold is a build that is pretty likewise the 90 90 90 30 builds, but wont require that much sp. Not many know this build although..


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:35 am 
Valued Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 421
Location: leit
Ragnorak wrote:
borat2 wrote:
With all that defense you will be indeed a cape fight hero, but would love to see a glaive with 100% speed potion trying to catch anyone with ghost walk, movement is important in this game too bad most PVP in Isro is done with the casual "sir you stand there, i stand here and we smash few keys until one dies." :banghead:


+1 I lol'd

if I can survive against sun 2hand +7 with +5 protector set (no 89/90/leg/chest or 89 neck)with snow shield for 90 sec and win @ the end then I don't need more phy. def. with the addition of vigors this would only get easier.

Only those that are afraid of 2hand euros will take ice over light period. :)



wait wait? Do u understand what u just said? sun +7 2h????? he woudln't even need crit to kill u and if he got like c10 +9 from passive 1crit from DD woudl hit like 20k+, u can't tank sun +7 2h sword even if u r full sun.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:30 am 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 390
Location:
Babel
omg SHHHHHH stop giving str tips how to build there characters properly, let them suck :P

btw s/s int (light/sword/cold) not fire and str bow owns this cap. Bladers not bad to.

Glaivers ..rubbish this cap.

_________________
<< banned for proof of botting. -cin >>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:36 pm 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1550
Location:
Xian
Made alot of valid points. 90 Ice makes you a close combat PVP bomb of course, but not being able to catch up too well would make it a bad experience if you have alot of enemies who prefer running over fighting.
So yeah, 72 - 48 does indeed make more sense.

In my opinion Lightning pretty much blows for any build at this cap, even Nukers... because the magical attack increase is also only 1% higher than at Lightning 80 ~.~

But the discussion of possibly keeping Fire or experimenting is covered in another thread so I will leave it at that.

Since the 80 cap got the skills update, there's alot of skill re-adjusting needed anyways for most build to find the perfect balance between strength and defence. Makes JM happy though because alot of people bought the Item Mall "curst hearts" to get 100% of their SP back ^^

_________________
Chaby wrote:
I'm famous, but that's because I'm the biggest attention whore.

Crumpets wrote:
If you had sexual intercourse with an 0x33 member who has 'paid' clockwork .. would that be an offense?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:11 pm 
Regular Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 232
Location:
Sparta
Are you like my brother or something because my build is 90hek 90 fire 70 ice 50 light just for that same exact reason :) good to see someone agrees

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:29 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1147
Location:
Troy
frankaslt1 wrote:
Ragnorak wrote:
borat2 wrote:
With all that defense you will be indeed a cape fight hero, but would love to see a glaive with 100% speed potion trying to catch anyone with ghost walk, movement is important in this game too bad most PVP in Isro is done with the casual "sir you stand there, i stand here and we smash few keys until one dies." :banghead:


+1 I lol'd

if I can survive against sun 2hand +7 with +5 protector set (no 89/90/leg/chest or 89 neck)with snow shield for 90 sec and win @ the end then I don't need more phy. def. with the addition of vigors this would only get easier.

Only those that are afraid of 2hand euros will take ice over light period. :)



wait wait? Do u understand what u just said? sun +7 2h????? he woudln't even need crit to kill u and if he got like c10 +9 from passive 1crit from DD woudl hit like 20k+, u can't tank sun +7 2h sword even if u r full sun.


LOL, too many of u think 2hand are overpower, they are strong but not undefeated.
I already stated the gear I have, and about the crits..i use vigors when that happens.
This is the 2hand sun sword. doesn't mean i'll win all the times but u can survive with prot+snow shield.

Only pvp 2x when it was +5...lost once and won once...then again when it was +7 ..pvp only ONCE and I manage to win. I believe the stats on this picture are better when I pvp. but not sure.
the way I pvp. vs 2hands is different from others and VERY effective..switch to my 85+5 shield when maddening/dare devil/kd is used..since the atk is very slow...I even block dare devil many times.


Attachments:
sun 2hand.jpg
sun 2hand.jpg [ 187.34 KiB | Viewed 6899 times ]

_________________
<< banned for proof of botting. -cin >>
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:16 pm 
Addicted Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2587
Location: OTL&OG
borat2 wrote:
With all that defense you will be indeed a cape fight hero, but would love to see a glaive with 100% speed potion trying to catch anyone with ghost walk, movement is important in this game too bad most PVP in Isro is done with the casual "sir you stand there, i stand here and we smash few keys until one dies." :banghead:


+1.
when i use a phantom in pvp everyone always whines.
COWARD, YOU RUN, NOOB.
the thing is im a bower, its only use of range >.< if i can hit them while they cant hit me, why should i not ?
long phantom ftw, i like it as long as my range is :love:

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:31 pm 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 920
Location: OTL
LillDev!l wrote:
borat2 wrote:
With all that defense you will be indeed a cape fight hero, but would love to see a glaive with 100% speed potion trying to catch anyone with ghost walk, movement is important in this game too bad most PVP in Isro is done with the casual "sir you stand there, i stand here and we smash few keys until one dies." :banghead:


+1.
when i use a phantom in pvp everyone always whines.
COWARD, YOU RUN, NOOB.
the thing is im a bower, its only use of range >.< if i can hit them while they cant hit me, why should i not ?
long phantom ftw, i like it as long as my range is :love:


+2

I'd take light over ice.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:52 pm 
Common Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 128
Location: not on sro
I think I said something like this once. Not half as well argued or put together and I'm a bow. :oops: If you want to see me make a fool of myself heres the link. viewtopic.php?t=70045 *hides*


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:58 pm 
Banned User
Offline

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 541
Location:
Pacific
LillDev!l wrote:
borat2 wrote:
With all that defense you will be indeed a cape fight hero, but would love to see a glaive with 100% speed potion trying to catch anyone with ghost walk, movement is important in this game too bad most PVP in Isro is done with the casual "sir you stand there, i stand here and we smash few keys until one dies." :banghead:


+1.
when i use a phantom in pvp everyone always whines.
COWARD, YOU RUN, NOOB.
the thing is im a bower, its only use of range >.< if i can hit them while they cant hit me, why should i not ?
long phantom ftw, i like it as long as my range is :love:


that has got to be most boring pvp ever, run away attack run away...

_________________
<<banned from SRF for bot support. -SG>>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:00 pm 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 920
Location: OTL
Pham wrote:
LillDev!l wrote:
borat2 wrote:
With all that defense you will be indeed a cape fight hero, but would love to see a glaive with 100% speed potion trying to catch anyone with ghost walk, movement is important in this game too bad most PVP in Isro is done with the casual "sir you stand there, i stand here and we smash few keys until one dies." :banghead:


+1.
when i use a phantom in pvp everyone always whines.
COWARD, YOU RUN, NOOB.
the thing is im a bower, its only use of range >.< if i can hit them while they cant hit me, why should i not ?
long phantom ftw, i like it as long as my range is :love:


that has got to be most boring pvp ever, run away attack run away...


Boring? This is funny pvp atm in isro? Stand together and hit? If you watch ksro pvp you'll see players use the tactics of all skills. If run away, attack, run away works. why dont use it?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:07 pm 
Banned User
Offline

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 541
Location:
Pacific
[SW]UnDutchabIe wrote:
Boring? This is funny pvp atm in isro? Stand together and hit? If you watch ksro pvp you'll see players use the tactics of all skills. If run away, attack, run away works. why dont use it?



lvl 90 full farm bowers in my server never do this, they either win or they die. I have never seen alvl 90 bower in my server do this, and if they get kill, they will get kill but they wont run.

_________________
<<banned from SRF for bot support. -SG>>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:22 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1147
Location:
Troy
Pham wrote:
[SW]UnDutchabIe wrote:
Boring? This is funny pvp atm in isro? Stand together and hit? If you watch ksro pvp you'll see players use the tactics of all skills. If run away, attack, run away works. why dont use it?



lvl 90 full farm bowers in my server never do this, they either win or they die. I have never seen alvl 90 bower in my server do this, and if they get kill, they will get kill but they wont run.


most players on pvp don't run/phantom.
job war is another story almost every Chinese runs/phantom a LOT.
since is not 1vs1 phamton helps a lot into luring someone to follow u and have the chance to 1vs1 even if its for a couple of sec....if u are slow on job wars/dont' run/phantom u will get ganged raped.

_________________
<< banned for proof of botting. -cin >>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:34 pm 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1596
Location: Black Desert Online
TOloseGT wrote:
why 72 ice? stay 60 ice 60 light. the +80 phys def is good enough.


if you do that mise well go 68 ice 52 light, new might gaurd (powergaurd idk w/e the last book is) ice + grass walk speed.



@TS

i would take parry over ice any day, not because its better. but because i still after 2years am not exactlly clear on what parry does. ive heard many different ideas on what it does from lowering enmy chance to crit, to lowering the min damage they do to you, also ive heard that it will make it so they hit the min more then their max. all different and all good. so i will go with a peter griffin on this one. in that episode where he really wants a boat, and he wins this contest. he can chose a boat or mystery box. and i quote "but lois, a boat is a boat. a mystery box could be anything, it could even be a boat!." (idk the quote exactly but it goes something like that) lol anyways light>ice all the way imo. tho not exaclty educated and wise choice but still i stand at light instead of ice.

_________________
Image
^^ mAd propps to Verfo for the sig:P thankx man!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:43 pm 
Veteran Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: May 2007
Posts: 3820
Location: Whisperwind [US-PVE]
warriors suck if they only use 1 wep at a time.

_________________
Image
Spoiler!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:07 pm 
Valued Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 421
Location: leit
Quote:
LOL, too many of u think 2hand are overpower, they are strong but not undefeated.
I already stated the gear I have, and about the crits..i use vigors when that happens.
This is the 2hand sun sword. doesn't mean i'll win all the times but u can survive with prot+snow shield.

Only pvp 2x when it was +5...lost once and won once...then again when it was +7 ..pvp only ONCE and I manage to win. I believe the stats on this picture are better when I pvp. but not sure.
the way I pvp. vs 2hands is different from others and VERY effective..switch to my 85+5 shield when maddening/dare devil/kd is used..since the atk is very slow...I even block dare devil many times.


owell iam warrior/warloc, +5 2h with c12, i can kill any china build wihtout problem and pills won't help. Also it depends on warrios if he can only spam 3 buttons or if he is pro.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:48 pm 
Banned User
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 817
Location:
Oasis
[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
TOloseGT wrote:
why 72 ice? stay 60 ice 60 light. the +80 phys def is good enough.


@TS

i would take parry over ice any day, not because its better. but because i still after 2years am not exactlly clear on what parry does. ive heard many different ideas on what it does from lowering enmy chance to crit, to lowering the min damage they do to you, also ive heard that it will make it so they hit the min more then their max. all different and all good. so i will go with a peter griffin on this one. in that episode where he really wants a boat, and he wins this contest. he can chose a boat or mystery box. and i quote "but lois, a boat is a boat. a mystery box could be anything, it could even be a boat!." (idk the quote exactly but it goes something like that) lol anyways light>ice all the way imo. tho not exaclty educated and wise choice but still i stand at light instead of ice.


Parry makes other hit you more to their minimum damage than their maximum.
Yes, parry is important - BUT from level 48 --> 90 parry does NOT increase by a substantial amount as MrFudgey explained.
Ice > Light for STR builds.
Light at higher levels is sooo disappointing. At the lower levels you see great increases in everything.. 48 --> 60 light is 3% more magical damage, for example.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:45 pm 
New Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 33
Location:
Saturn
Would this possibly work out with a 85% hybrid int spear as well?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:24 am 
Loyal Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1921
Location: http://goo.gl/Lfwa
um... ints need mag buff though :S


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:27 am 
Banned User
Offline

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1002
Location:
Venus
Ice > Light for STR.
But I can't live without the Grass Walk QQ

_________________
<<banned from SRF for bot admission. -SG>>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cold is better than Lightning for STR Chinese
PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:45 am 
Active Member
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 657
Location:
Oasis
nice one fudge. i'd agree with all your points. and that's perhaps best deal at 90caps. but once you hit 100 or more ... things get messy to adjust.

and imo, i'd say for pure str characters, whether to max phantom or not depends a lot on their play style. and archers should play with maxed phantom in most cases, theoretically and ideally. perhaps too many pvps are decided on standing ground and spamming skills.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 121 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group