Trader & Theif : What Has To Be Done

Ivanhaus · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 241 **Location:**

there really is no way to fix this issue short of redoing the character levels in the game.how many lvl 20 characters would it take 2 kill a lvl80?so in order for a lvl 20 to do a multi* there would have 2 be like 30 of them just to get past 1 lvl80 thief. it should be 4 lvl20's equal 1 lvl80 player. as long as the lvl's are set up the way they are there will be no true fix to the problem.when u design a game with no lvl restrictions on how they interact u need 2 keep the lvls close enough 2 make it competitive. if i was JM the first thing i would do was to revamp there character lvl's.bring them all closer together.something on the order of 2 lvl10 can equal a lvl20, or 4 lvl10 can equal a lvl40.any other attemp at a fix will ultimately fail. this way u wouldn't need a 1* protection system in place. I think everyone would try multi*'s with this system. I'm currently lvl 49 and would welcome a change like this.don't know what everyone else thinks about this but it's the only true solution I see.

ping_lo · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 911 **Location:**

satman83 wrote:

well i dont want there to be 1* trades....that way there would be no need
to pop, we theives pop because out of the 3 jobs ours is the worst, both
in terms of carrying out said job and rewards

LoL have you ever done hunter? It is a total wash. You get nothing for hunting usually. At least with thief you stand to make some money. I swear thief who whine about their job being the worst and that low lvls complain when they pop them are worse than low lvls that complain when you pop them. :twisted:

Spanktastik · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 689 **Location:**

satman83 wrote:

The only Fair way.

know i understand some people will not agree with this and some will
even call me names and try to discredit me, if they do let them and
we can see the morons that they are.

now, as well all know a theif can only attack a 2* trader or above...its the
way the game works. but with the new job update coming we will be stuck
with our jobs for 10 weeks (if the rumor is to belived).

now as a theif my job is to kill traders, take their items and return them to
the theif town for money, but with almost 90% of all traders doing 1* trades
how can i do my SRO job? I mean seeing how nearly every trader is doing
a 1* job how can i attack them? well to some the answer is 1* pop
to let my NPC theif kill a trader. But to some this isnt far how is it, but
doing a 1* trade isnt far either.
i mean if your a trader there should be some risk involved, likewise
for a theif if everyone does 1* trade all the time what can you do????

i for one say make 1* popping impossible and how you ask, well thats
the easy one. Get rid of the 1* trade..i mean hunter = hard job, theif =
hard job, yet trader = easy have you have a basic "sandbox" option
that gives no real challange. But without it then it evens things up a bit
more...i mean hunter and theif can still attack each other, but why the
hell should a trader get away....get rid of 1* option, make the trader
job a real trader job..hard, and make the theif job a real theif job...being
able to kill and take for any trader.

Or we can wait till the job update is complete a nd see where that takes us? We all know jobs are fuxed at the moment. :roll:

satman83 wrote:

well i dont want there to be 1* trades....

No one cares what you want

satman83 wrote:

lol yes i like to whine, my first proper thread in a few weeks but still i like to whine :roll:

The first step is admittance my friend. Every post Ive seen from you lately is you insulting someone on complaining about something.

trik · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2007 12:36 am

Change the star system to a level restriction system

Thieves can't attack hunters/traders 5-10 levels higher/lower than them

SCArchon · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 233 **Location:**

EllisD wrote:

I still dont get what you meant with the underlined bit. Your going around in circles. So according to this, hunters are the only people that get nothing from jobbing, so why not give them some advantage instead of making thieving easier?

in KSRO, when the trade is over and the trader sell his stuff, the hutner gets gold too >.>

DonSkoD · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 35 **Location:**

lol..

just put up some 8th deg. glaviers / bladers (thiefs) with a lot of HP at each bridge towards jg, and no traders will come by..

if the 1* is removed, no trader will have any chance at completing his job unless he is 60+ and using an ox.. (or has 3+ LV 80 hunters with him).

i agree with the lvl restriction system instead..

satman83 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 9541 **Location:** London

SCArchon wrote:

EllisD wrote:

I still dont get what you meant with the underlined bit. Your going around in circles. So according to this, hunters are the only people that get nothing from jobbing, so why not give them some advantage instead of making thieving easier?

in KSRO, when the trade is over and the trader sell his stuff, the hutner gets gold too >.>

well just do that then.....AND for all those saying that hunters are the
worst off, thats why there are more hunters then theives? What people
dont realise is that when you become a theif its hard because its basicly
2 Vs 1

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

I'm sticking with the idea of making level gap restrictions on each star rating. It was mentioned by someone above, and I commented on it too. A 1 star trader should not have any sort of untouchable status. However, make it so you have to be no more than 3 levels higher than the 1 star trader to attack. 5 levels for 2 star, 10 levels for 3... that sort of thing.

If you keep the untouchable protection on 1 star, then there's not much reason for people to do multi (I know SOME do anyway). Remove that complete protection, and more traders will go out and do higher stars. More traders and hunters will work together to do larger trade runs. Also, thieves will start to work in groups more to bring these large trades down.

I think if they have a system like that, it will help reduce the number of thieves that just sit at the ferries or jangan crossroads waiting for a trader to pop.

mushrooms · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 675 **Location:**

Only lvl 20-30 should have 1 star option.

shadowman20875 · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2007 4:28 pm

satman did u even bother reading my idea? cause u havent responded to it

also, when merchants travel with little amount of stuff they can pass most theives cause theives dont hit small merchants, theives want huge pay offs and thats y i think the start system makes sense

EllisD · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1788 **Location:**

satman83 wrote:

SCArchon wrote:

EllisD wrote:

I still dont get what you meant with the underlined bit. Your going around in circles. So according to this, hunters are the only people that get nothing from jobbing, so why not give them some advantage instead of making thieving easier?

in KSRO, when the trade is over and the trader sell his stuff, the hutner gets gold too >.>

well just do that then.....AND for all those saying that hunters are the
worst off, thats why there are more hunters then theives? What people
dont realise is that when you become a theif its hard because its basicly
2 Vs 1

I beg to differ, lol

At any given time, i would say there are more thieves than hunters BUT either way it dosnt matter. If someone is hunter and sees someone they dont like and is also hunter, im sure one of them will change to thief just to kill the other person. If and when we get to the point where we have to choose a job, im sure the thieves will outnumber the hunters.

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