80:80 Bow Sucks!

DiabolicBow · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 313 **Location:**

Now that it's ruined it sucks for me. I was wondering, how does 80:80 Spear cope in pvp?

*BTW*

I am lvl 75! SO I know about knockback!!! I have the DARN skill.

Burningwolf · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 2583 **Location:** :|

why do u say it sucks?

Nader · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 1591 **Location:**

Burningwolf wrote:

why do u say it sucks?

stronge bow...

it only sucks because you cant find a away around it

WhereIsOsama · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 305

DiabolicBow wrote:

Now that it's ruined it sucks for me. I was wondering, how does 80:80 Spear cope in pvp?

lol ...sal ... ur such a nooblet ..... talk to me in game about the hybrid spear ... anyways ......

how much int and str do you have ? .... i'm assuming you are 1:1 build right ?

DiabolicBow · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 313 **Location:**

It doesnt suck. Good build. But I hate the non strong bow back to back spawn. So Im guessing Anyone know good videos of 80 80 spear nukers?

Necro-Mage · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 458 **Location:**

I don't think you would nuke very high if you had 80:80 magical balance.

More useful for weapon skills.

mac · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 142 **Location:**

DiabolicBow wrote:

It doesnt suck. Good build. But I hate the non strong bow back to back spawn. So Im guessing Anyone know good videos of 80 80 spear nukers?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JGqptrMRVAs&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7a350hp6NUE

WhereIsOsama · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 305

Necro-Mage wrote:

I don't think you would nuke very high if you had 80:80 magical balance.

More useful for weapon skills.

90% magic balance and up = still strong nukes ....... 80:80 will destroy your nuke power .... and if joymax makes the 300 mastery cap stay .... you would be forced to do 1 weaponry mastery and light mastery because your nukes would not be able to help you enough without phys attack

so basically if you go 80:80 ..... either go back to bow or pick a new character .... cuz if you plan on using nukes as your main attack ... u'll suffer .... but if you use phy attacks + nukes .. you should be ok

DarkJackal · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 6119 **Location:** A den~

lol that would be pretty funny if you switch to spear and then fix it >.>.

;d.

knubbka · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:48 am

didnt you quit? :roll:

Vindicator · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1734 **Location:** L-A-B

knubbka wrote:

didnt you quit? :roll:

lol ya, thought he quit, so why does it matter?

DiabolicBow · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 313 **Location:**

Friend convinced me to stay. so...yea

raysisfenix · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 768 **Location:**

i had a 70:70 bow chracter before and its never been easy to train without good gears and SoX weapon.

DiabolicBow · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 313 **Location:**

raysisfenix wrote:

i had a 70:70 bow chracter before and its never been easy to train without good gears and SoX weapon.

Also how do the masteries go at lvl 90? Messed up. Im going Spear for sure. Imma do INT up to lvl 90 though. So I can get stronger nukes.

Cerus · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 1002 **Location:**

lol, yea 70:70 bow suc so bad.
I was only able to kill yarkan when i reach 73 with 4 mastery gap.
I was only able to kill a full str 80 glavier whis 9 gapping while i am lvl 76 5 gapping.
Dang, sure is a sucky build

Nyahgis · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 680 **Location:**

Wait until you get knockback arrow and strong bow craft... You'll notice your bow character's power sky rocket and you'll do a lot better in wars and pvp. So yeah, if you can stick to your character until lvl 73, you'll be fine.

DiabolicBow · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 313 **Location:**

Cerus wrote:

lol, yea 70:70 bow suc so bad.
I was only able to kill yarkan when i reach 73 with 4 mastery gap.
I was only able to kill a full str 80 glavier whis 9 gapping while i am lvl 76 5 gapping.
Dang, sure is a sucky build

Yeah, I killed MANY 80 glaviers. The thing is. You can tell me how the mastries you'll do at 90 cap? Im thinking ahead. Now they rule.

Cerus · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 1002 **Location:**

Just try my best to make good out of it, theres no perfect build, we give n take. 1 thing for sure, 80:80 is as good as any other so call "best/strong" build.
Like I always say, theres pros n cons in every build.

Braka · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 1369 **Location:**

alot of this 90 cap mastery discussion is being done in character skills section for bowers , btw why do u always bring ur topics to wrong section when they belong to skills section

Ice771x · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 1562 **Location:**

80:80 spear with max int and str on gear would have like...95% mag balance. still high enough to do good damage i guess. but idk test it out.

Necro-Mage · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 458 **Location:**

Ice771x wrote:

80:80 spear with max int and str on gear would have like...95% mag balance. still high enough to do good damage i guess. but idk test it out.

isn't 80:80 with blues on?

John_Doe · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 2094 **Location:**

Plz prove to me why your 80:80 bower sucks (besides the fact that you can't get around the strongbow back to back thing)? hehe, you can't go around saying people build's suck. that is not right my little grasshopper.

darkmaster21 · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 2156 **Location:**

LOL! Finally someone admits that that build sucks. 80:80 spear is WAY better than Bow, get light nukes and like all of spear attacks. I would not get the Flying Spear or w/e skill because you can use your lightening nuke for the long distance hit and don't get the first series of spear skills because those are weak imo. (I would use all light (including imbue)).

John_Doe · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 2094 **Location:**

darkmaster21 wrote:

LOL! Finally someone admits that that build sucks. 80:80 spear is WAY better than Bow, get light nukes and like all of spear attacks. I would not get the Flying Spear or w/e skill because you can use your lightening nuke for the long distance hit and don't get the first series of spear skills because those are weak imo. (I would use all light (including imbue)).

Someone admitted thier 80:80 bower sucked. Does not mean you should assume every 80:80 bower suck.

Ice771x · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 1562 **Location:**

Necro-Mage wrote:

Ice771x wrote:

80:80 spear with max int and str on gear would have like...95% mag balance. still high enough to do good damage i guess. but idk test it out.

isn't 80:80 with blues on?

>_< stupid me
lol
yea 80:80 would suck.

IZerkNoobz · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 114 **Location:**

watch kAwS's pvps on youtube, he's a 80:80 spear. I think its a good build.

Pred · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:35 am

both suck. both will suck even more at 90cap.

Cerus · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 1002 **Location:**

Lets put this straight. No arguements, but facts.
Diabolic was referring to Strong Bow after the update, he was basically talking abt the whole Bow build.

@darkmaster
You're a pure STR bow, your opinion r biased. I can tell from every post or comment you made abt the bow builds.

Hybrid Bow do not suck.
Pure Str Bow = Good PvPs
Hybrid Bow = Good PvEs

Different adoption of Force trees will vastly differ one's ability to do good in one area and vice versa.

Unless of course you've already farmed the SPs for all the skills.
EG:
80 Bow
80 Fire
80 Light
60 Ice

Davids · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 520

Isnt 70:70/80:80 bow basically 2 int 1 str? And Int hybrids, MW pretty much owned with that one. There should be a guide aswell.

Cerus · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 1002 **Location:**

Davids wrote:

Isnt 70:70/80:80 bow basically 2 int 1 str? And Int hybrids, MW pretty much owned with that one. There should be a guide aswell.

70:70/80:80 is close to 2:1 int hybrid but with slightly more str pts.

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