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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:08 am 
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Blizzard is considering to give players XP for every kill you make in the battlegrounds.

Ouch.

You might wanna do a little prayer for your twink Twysta :P :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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is there a link to specific patch notes?
i tried looking on blizzard but i'm too mentally challenged i guess.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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sirs1ayer wrote:
is there a link to specific patch notes?
i tried looking on blizzard but i'm too mentally challenged i guess.

Just look up the PTR notes. It's the same thing.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:23 am 
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Good. I didn't get any playtime, i'm still 67. And, the patch will get me 70 easy.

Quick 70 = quick daily's = pray to god epic flight form BEFORE wotlk :/

I'm playing with specs.

I'm thinking this:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?druid=0 ... 2005011000

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:20 am 
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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:41 am 
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Looks quite good to me for your level. Then again if it doesn't work you can always adjust. :P

For straight after patch, I'm looking at this
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunter= ... 0000000000

And at 80, looking at something like this
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunter= ... 0000000000

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Blizzard is considering to give players XP for every kill you make in the battlegrounds.

Ouch.

You might wanna do a little prayer for your twink Twysta :P :shock:


Haha, at first I thought oh shit... here comes the end to my 4 twinks.
But after doing a little more research, and finding the sources behind the "AHAHAH BYEBYE TWINKS"-threads, it's going to be an option you can choose yourself :>

@ Necro, I think your spec leaves some good things, Kindred spirits looks like a must, as well as cobra strikes? If your going PvE, then the hunter's mark melee AP bonus to party/raid is a must also :)

Allthough I have to admit, I have done pretty much zero research on hunters.

On another note.. I still haven't decided yet what to do :(
Do I level my mage first or my hunter... Will I take the hunter pve or the mage...

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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[SD]Twysta wrote:
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Blizzard is considering to give players XP for every kill you make in the battlegrounds.

Ouch.

You might wanna do a little prayer for your twink Twysta :P :shock:


Haha, at first I thought oh shit... here comes the end to my 4 twinks.
But after doing a little more research, and finding the sources behind the "AHAHAH BYEBYE TWINKS"-threads, it's going to be an option you can choose yourself :>

@ Necro, I think your spec leaves some good things, Kindred spirits looks like a must, as well as cobra strikes?

Allthough I have to admit, I have done pretty much zero research on hunter's.

On another note.. I still haven't decided yet what to do :(
Do I level my mage first or my hunter... Will I take the hunter pve or the mage...

Too many toys. lol
I'm going 21 deep in MM, no matter what, for Readiness. With that and Longevity, it's possible to use Bestial Wrath 3 times in just over 3 minutes, which should amass some huge DPS bonus. Which kinda leaves 5 points in Kindred Spirits vs the 5 in Improved Tracking. Which'll require some number crunching to find out which is better; 20% extra pet damage, or 5% extra damage of both myself and my pet?

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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I'd go for 5 each.

Also, Improved Hunter's Mark, leaving that?

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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twysta, if i'm gonna have to tell you again to take the mage, i'll kill you.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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I'd go for 5 each.

Also, Improved Hunter's Mark, leaving that?

Would take five of each and IHM if I had bonus points. :P Fact is I don't and I'm trying to think of what would be the best out of what I have points wise.

Edit after installing patch:

I wish I could log on. So badly. Stupid maintenance.

Why does the log on screen tease me so?! T_T

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cebhzxxowuMxsxcxV0o

That will most likely be the base Hunter spec, for BM anyway. Ive seen MM´s DPS and it is in fact quite close to that of a BM, and the low cost on Steady Shots make it a very tempting spec. The last 6 points can be either put in Imp. Tracking, or Careful Aim+Imp. Stings. But that\\\'s kinda up to the player IMO.

Lemme see if I can put something nice together for MM.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cEb0zLZcxAcohzGeog0Ao

This is mostly a personal prefernce build. The points in BM can also be put in SV, but I really love Aspect Mastery currently(Because AotV sucksf*cking balls atm), and some extra pet damage is always nice. However, I feel the way MM is distributed here is THE way to build up MM atm for a raider. 10% on TSA is the best thing ever, and Chimera shot is absolutely a Farking awesome skill. 7k CRITS @ lvl 70 = :love: :love: :love:.
I actually wouldn\'t be suprised if MM turns out to be THE raidspec for hunters again, like pre-BC;
Low-mana shots, cheap hunter\'s mark, and huge crits. Yumm.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:19 pm 
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Aye, the first spec is really nice :)
With both the talents I mentioned ^^

Also, apologies for IHM, it doesn't give the melee AP bonus anymore if invested in, dumb of me :)

Question Bob, doesn't Chimera shot make you go oom fast? (Not taking efficiency into mind here). Costing 16% of base mana, base mana being 5046 = 807 mana at lvl 80 :/. Oh well, I guess it's all good with our new AotV and stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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It more or less does, but a Steady Shot of ~100 mana(which is as low as it gets), a Hunter\'s Mark of ~80 mana, and a low mana Arcane Shot more then make up for this. Currently, MM has the Mana \'costs\' BM used to have in TBC. Activate AotV in a bossfight for ~10 second, in which time you also keep spamming abilities and youre back to full mana. It\'s awesome, spite the damage reduction, which is why I love Aspect Mastery so much.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Had some funz in tree ;)

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Can someone find me a 2.4.3 to 3.0.1 patch enUS classic please? :)

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Bob wrote:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cebhzxxowuMxsxcxV0o

That will most likely be the base Hunter spec, for BM anyway. Ive seen MM´s DPS and it is in fact quite close to that of a BM, and the low cost on Steady Shots make it a very tempting spec. The last 6 points can be either put in Imp. Tracking, or Careful Aim+Imp. Stings. But that\\\'s kinda up to the player IMO.

Lemme see if I can put something nice together for MM.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cEb0zLZcxAcohzGeog0Ao

This is mostly a personal prefernce build. The points in BM can also be put in SV, but I really love Aspect Mastery currently(Because AotV sucksf*cking balls atm), and some extra pet damage is always nice. However, I feel the way MM is distributed here is THE way to build up MM atm for a raider. 10% on TSA is the best thing ever, and Chimera shot is absolutely a Farking awesome skill. 7k CRITS @ lvl 70 = :love: :love: :love:.
I actually wouldn\'t be suprised if MM turns out to be THE raidspec for hunters again, like pre-BC;
Low-mana shots, cheap hunter\'s mark, and huge crits. Yumm.

First won't work for BM. No Focus regen on pets. You've put points into neither Bestial Discipline OR Go For the Throat. Without those you're gimping your DPS by not allowing the focus dumps to keep dumping.

Haven't looked at the second, will do later though.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Bob wrote:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cebhzxxowuMxsxcxV0o

That will most likely be the base Hunter spec, for BM anyway. Ive seen MM´s DPS and it is in fact quite close to that of a BM, and the low cost on Steady Shots make it a very tempting spec. The last 6 points can be either put in Imp. Tracking, or Careful Aim+Imp. Stings. But that\\\'s kinda up to the player IMO.

Lemme see if I can put something nice together for MM.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cEb0zLZcxAcohzGeog0Ao

This is mostly a personal prefernce build. The points in BM can also be put in SV, but I really love Aspect Mastery currently(Because AotV sucksf*cking balls atm), and some extra pet damage is always nice. However, I feel the way MM is distributed here is THE way to build up MM atm for a raider. 10% on TSA is the best thing ever, and Chimera shot is absolutely a Farking awesome skill. 7k CRITS @ lvl 70 = :love: :love: :love:.
I actually wouldn\'t be suprised if MM turns out to be THE raidspec for hunters again, like pre-BC;
Low-mana shots, cheap hunter\'s mark, and huge crits. Yumm.

First won't work for BM. No Focus regen on pets. You've put points into neither Bestial Discipline OR Go For the Throat. Without those you're gimping your DPS by not allowing the focus dumps to keep dumping.

Haven't looked at the second, will do later though.


Why would you need focus dumps if you don't have go for the throat / BD? Also, maybe his pet got non CD abilites? :>

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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[SD]Twysta wrote:
Necrobat wrote:
Bob wrote:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cebhzxxowuMxsxcxV0o

That will most likely be the base Hunter spec, for BM anyway. Ive seen MM´s DPS and it is in fact quite close to that of a BM, and the low cost on Steady Shots make it a very tempting spec. The last 6 points can be either put in Imp. Tracking, or Careful Aim+Imp. Stings. But that\\\'s kinda up to the player IMO.

Lemme see if I can put something nice together for MM.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cEb0zLZcxAcohzGeog0Ao

This is mostly a personal prefernce build. The points in BM can also be put in SV, but I really love Aspect Mastery currently(Because AotV sucksf*cking balls atm), and some extra pet damage is always nice. However, I feel the way MM is distributed here is THE way to build up MM atm for a raider. 10% on TSA is the best thing ever, and Chimera shot is absolutely a Farking awesome skill. 7k CRITS @ lvl 70 = :love: :love: :love:.
I actually wouldn\'t be suprised if MM turns out to be THE raidspec for hunters again, like pre-BC;
Low-mana shots, cheap hunter\'s mark, and huge crits. Yumm.

First won't work for BM. No Focus regen on pets. You've put points into neither Bestial Discipline OR Go For the Throat. Without those you're gimping your DPS by not allowing the focus dumps to keep dumping.

Haven't looked at the second, will do later though.


Why would you need focus dumps if you don't have go for the throat / BD? Also, maybe his pet got non CD abilites? :>

Pet normalisation. All pets have a focus dump and family ability now.
As for focus dumps, they make up the majority of your pets DPS.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Patch time @_@ epic chat in trade channel last few minutes.

Byebye TBC skills :D

Hello new haircut!

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900g/5000g...
How but how in god sake am I gonna have 5000g...
I did all the quest of Hellfire Peninsula,Zangarmarsh,Terrokar,Nagrand and almost all of Blade Edge's...
So basically I'd need to get 4100g from Netherstorm & Shadowmoon Valley quest...IMPOSSIBLE :(

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900g/5000g...
How but how in god sake am I gonna have 5000g...
I did all the quest of Hellfire Peninsula,Zangarmarsh,Terrokar,Nagrand and almost all of Blade Edge's...
So basically I'd need to get 4100g from Netherstorm & Shadowmoon Valley quest...IMPOSSIBLE :(

Dailies.
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so my add ons all failed =[

me too, i had to get my new ct mods @ ctmod.net, used XPerl(in wotlk beta @ wowinterface.com) for my unit frames, then Zthreatmeter for threat(in wotlk beta @ wowinterface.com). QH still works, cartographer is.. sketchy lol.

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So, after downloading 1.57GB PRE-patch.

How much will i be looking at this afternoon?

CURSE you no internet at work!

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