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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:30 pm 
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Ahrg, wow has really gone down the toilet now PvP wise.

I'll see what happens when resilience comes, but I'm not hopeful.
Season 1 is going to be a combination of boomkins, rogues, palas and mages.
I play a Rogue myself so it wouldn't be too bad if the entire arena wasn't about who finds who sooner.
If you play a setup with a druid or rogue, which ever team finds the druid or rogue sooner wins because you won't live longer than the cheap shot, maybe the kidney shot if you're lucky.

How could they have let this happen after the good arenapvp there was in TBC.

WoW has always been PvE with a side of PvP. If you want PvP gear, get it crafted, and do the Wintergrasp dungeon. Sorry it isn't all handed to you this time.

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woutR wrote:
Ahrg, wow has really gone down the toilet now PvP wise.

I'll see what happens when resilience comes, but I'm not hopeful.
Season 1 is going to be a combination of boomkins, rogues, palas and mages.
I play a Rogue myself so it wouldn't be too bad if the entire arena wasn't about who finds who sooner.
If you play a setup with a druid or rogue, which ever team finds the druid or rogue sooner wins because you won't live longer than the cheap shot, maybe the kidney shot if you're lucky.

How could they have let this happen after the good arenapvp there was in TBC.

WoW has always been PvE with a side of PvP. If you want PvP gear, get it crafted, and do the Wintergrasp dungeon. Sorry it isn't all handed to you this time.


No, pvp and pve went separately in TBC.
I didn't do PVE and I still did loads of pvp. And what are you talking about "sorry it isn't all handed to you this time"?
I wasn't complaining about the difficulty of getting the items, I was complaining about the state of burst damage.
There isn't a single phrase in my post that says "gee, I want pvp gear easymode". But you're the one to speak, rolling karazhan and ZA gears. Don't start the casual QQ on me.

Besides, Vault of Archavon is super easy. Gear is literally being handed to me there. But I don't like doing PvE.
If anything, it's harder to get PvP gear than PvE gear atm. So gear is being handed to you this time. I guess you'll come further than T4 this time, grats.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:52 pm 
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Reading this thread makes me want to play wow. >_>

Going to see if a friends got a spare account for me to play on. =o

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:04 pm 
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woutR wrote:
Necrobat wrote:
woutR wrote:
Ahrg, wow has really gone down the toilet now PvP wise.

I'll see what happens when resilience comes, but I'm not hopeful.
Season 1 is going to be a combination of boomkins, rogues, palas and mages.
I play a Rogue myself so it wouldn't be too bad if the entire arena wasn't about who finds who sooner.
If you play a setup with a druid or rogue, which ever team finds the druid or rogue sooner wins because you won't live longer than the cheap shot, maybe the kidney shot if you're lucky.

How could they have let this happen after the good arenapvp there was in TBC.

WoW has always been PvE with a side of PvP. If you want PvP gear, get it crafted, and do the Wintergrasp dungeon. Sorry it isn't all handed to you this time.


No, pvp and pve went separately in TBC.
I didn't do PVE and I still did loads of pvp. And what are you talking about "sorry it isn't all handed to you this time"?
I wasn't complaining about the difficulty of getting the items, I was complaining about the state of burst damage.
There isn't a single phrase in my post that says "gee, I want pvp gear easymode". But you're the one to speak, rolling karazhan and ZA gears. Don't start the casual QQ on me.

Besides, Vault of Archavon is super easy. Gear is literally being handed to me there. But I don't like doing PvE.
If anything, it's harder to get PvP gear than PvE gear atm. So gear is being handed to you this time. I guess you'll come further than T4 this time, grats.

This just in; my shoulders and helm replaced my T5 stuff. This also just in, most mail quest rewards are for ele shamans. Also my apologies for not playing longer then you, hitting 70 about a month before expansion and getting into T5 content in that time.

You complain about burst damage because of no resilience. Let's see... crafted gear has resilience. Archavon gear has resilience. Don't QQ on the burst if you're not doing anything to rectify the situation.

And no, I wouldn't call BC PvP all that seperate, because that claims it's diverse. No diversity in the same four battlegrounds and a few shoeboxes.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:43 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:10 pm 
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haha, no diversity in PVP, but diversity in PVE.
Good one!

As a PVP player I must admit how dreadful these arena matches are. My opponents are so predictable. Haha, I beat these suckers every evening with the exact same tactic.
At first I failed like 30 times though, lucky my opponents didn't stay ahead of me, they kept using the exact same strategy every time I fought them!
Well good for me, else I could've never beat those fools. Now the only challenge is getting enough people to beat them. Real hard.

I wish I did PVE. The bosses adapt to every time I enter the instance. They always keep it new and fresh.
And when I down all the bosses in the game I get to do them all the time, all over again. That's just Farking great cause every time they're new too so it's like a new game every time.
Dammit, if only I was a PVE player I could see some true diversity.
But here I am, stuck in my sandbox pvp. Always the same old song, no diversity, it's always the same.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:51 am 
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woutR wrote:
haha, no diversity in PVP, but diversity in PVE.
Good one!

As a PVP player I must admit how dreadful these arena matches are. My opponents are so predictable. Haha, I beat these suckers every evening with the exact same tactic.
At first I failed like 30 times though, lucky my opponents didn't stay ahead of me, they kept using the exact same strategy every time I fought them!
Well good for me, else I could've never beat those fools. Now the only challenge is getting enough people to beat them. Real hard.

I wish I did PVE. The bosses adapt to every time I enter the instance. They always keep it new and fresh.
And when I down all the bosses in the game I get to do them all the time, all over again. That's just Farking great cause every time they're new too so it's like a new game every time.
Dammit, if only I was a PVE player I could see some true diversity.
But here I am, stuck in my sandbox pvp. Always the same old song, no diversity, it's always the same.

The warrior/druid 2 man team combo from BC says hi. We'll soon see another supreme 2 man combo which everyone and their dog will do. Yeah, some diversity.

My bad we use more versatility in our classes in PvE. Sorry that we have to adjust on the spot if the shit hits the fan. I wish I did PvP, that way I could do the same thing vs the same combos day in day out. Oh woe is me.

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Nice repair bill bakafish :)

Oh and the other two, keep it nice. We've always been nice in this topic so far, for over 140 pages, don't ruin it.

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I haven't been in this thread for a while.

So, how's WotLK?

Worth the wait?

Hard, easy?

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:15 pm 
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Nice repair bill bakafish :)

Oh and the other two, keep it nice. We've always been nice in this topic so far, for over 140 pages, don't ruin it.

It's not too bad, considered I rolled a 99 and won this. You should have seen the guild's tanker facial expression after I rolled, he then also kept /roll-ing during breaks but at the end he won the roll for a helm loot from the Four Horsemen, which is actually better than the shoulders.

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Nice repair bill bakafish :)

Oh and the other two, keep it nice. We've always been nice in this topic so far, for over 140 pages, don't ruin it.

It's not too bad, considered I rolled a 99 and won this. You should have seen the guild's tanker facial expression after I rolled, he then also kept /roll-ing during breaks but at the end he won the roll for a helm loot from the Four Horsemen, which is actually better than the shoulders.


Those are pretty nice shoulders..

I'm afraid i'm gonna stay DPS. lvl 76 now, no tank DK for me.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:42 pm 
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it's the one in zul drak. And i just did it. Awesome new axe.

Darn,I skipped Zul'Drak...is it a long quest chain before the actual event?Where can I get it exactly? :?

I'm gonna spend 78-80 at Sholazar Basin :love: Its the best area,even thought I dont understand how there's a jungle-area in Northrend...and then once lv.80 I get that new Warlock teleportation spell and hardcore Heroics to get me proto-drake :D

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Stupid merrymaker title from the winter veil achievements requires you to have 325 cooking! Stupid game!

now im leveling up cooking, 134 so far.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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it's the one in zul drak. And i just did it. Awesome new axe.

Darn,I skipped Zul'Drak...is it a long quest chain before the actual event?Where can I get it exactly? :?

I'm gonna spend 78-80 at Sholazar Basin :love: Its the best area,even thought I dont understand how there's a jungle-area in Northrend...and then once lv.80 I get that new Warlock teleportation spell and hardcore Heroics to get me proto-drake :D


No prequest. Just run in there and kill 6 bosses.

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it's the one in zul drak. And i just did it. Awesome new axe.

Darn,I skipped Zul'Drak...is it a long quest chain before the actual event?Where can I get it exactly? :?

I'm gonna spend 78-80 at Sholazar Basin :love: Its the best area,even thought I dont understand how there's a jungle-area in Northrend...and then once lv.80 I get that new Warlock teleportation spell and hardcore Heroics to get me proto-drake :D


No prequest. Just run in there and kill 6 bosses.

I'm not sure but I started from the Dalaran sewers.

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bakafish wrote:
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Darn,I skipped Zul'Drak...is it a long quest chain before the actual event?Where can I get it exactly? :?

I'm gonna spend 78-80 at Sholazar Basin :love: Its the best area,even thought I dont understand how there's a jungle-area in Northrend...and then once lv.80 I get that new Warlock teleportation spell and hardcore Heroics to get me proto-drake :D


No prequest. Just run in there and kill 6 bosses.

I'm not sure but I started from the Dalaran sewers.


There is a quest that starts in dalaran somewhere that directs you to the questline but you dont have to take it, you can just go straight there

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Ok, I just got my twink two hand axe from the emblems quartermaster and it has 8.0 DPS at lv1. Was gonna roll on another Arms Warrior but people are saying dual spec is coming soon(?). I guess I will roll on a Death Knight for now.

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Ok,i'll search for the quest giver in Zul'Drak,is he at the Ebon Reach?(whatever its called)

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Ok,i'll search for the quest giver in Zul'Drak,is he at the Ebon Reach?(whatever its called)

Here.

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Ding 77.

now at 77.2 or something.

Finished grizzly, and got the DK gryphon.

Spoiler!

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Ugly thing.

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Ugly thing.

Its ugly and it cost 1k gold :banghead:

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bah! Why does everyone undercut everyone else in the auction house! All they are doing i stopping people make money and making less money for themselves.

For example, frozen orbs, people were more than happy to pay 200g for them but everyone starts undercutting each other 5g at a time and now they are worthless even though people would still happily pay 200g for one if they needed it and couldnt be bothered to go get one themselves.

It was terrible when inscrption came out, after a couple weeks it was hard to sell any glyphs other than minor glyphs for more than 1g because there were just hundreds of people undercutting each other. Glyphs i was easily selling for 20g suddenly wont sell because there are like 200 for 50s each...

Actually, I just realized something earlier regarding undercutting. If you have the financial capabilities to do so, buy out the undercutter's stuff and list it as your own, and of course with a higher price. I just noticed this when I saw someone who was actually listing a stack of Frostweave Cloth for 16G. I bought them all out and listed them for 21G per stack and it vanished in less than hour.

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Ugly thing.

Its ugly and it cost 1k gold :banghead:


Well I still am a Deathknight am i not? So why wouldn't i but a gryphon mount that no other class can have. And that is special to my class.

Plus it looks cool from the back ;p

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Plus it looks cool from the back ;p

:P :P :P :P

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Wasn't in the mood for leveling by doing quests yesterday.

So i went and did Drak'theron twice, and then Gundrak once. No wiped ofc, cause they had me.

Was nice to test out some rotations and stuff. And i'm nearly 78.

Without putting rotations to really good use. I achieved 1344 dps (top dps in that group, which suprised me, i was really slacking.) Beating a lvl 80 DK, a lvl 77 retridin, and a lvl 77 mage. The mage was bottom dps, which made me (A mage at heart) kinda sad. He did a staggering avarage of 600 dps............ ok then, he didn't end up on my friends list, allthough he was a nice (dutch) person.

Anyways, it makes me wonder what dps i can do when using the correct rotation. at lvl 77 that is. I might have to go and find a target dummy.

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i finally got my t7 hands, so no more heroic instances for me now, woot. i'm concentrating on bgs and trying to find a 2s and 3s partner. still gonna join guild raids every week though, nice epics can be found there =]

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The all Female Blood Elf paladin violet hold group I joined
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I feel so awesome

3 ret 1 prot 1 holy = awesome

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I always wondered how obsolete the Horde would be without the Blood Elves.

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we could survive without the blood elfs

infact im only blood elf for silence and mag def, but the undead are very good for fighting against warlocks, extra damage with orcs and so on

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