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I know this is Nuklear's turf, but I was just wondering which candidate you guys are supporting for this year's election.

Please state why you're supporting who you're supporting. And for the love of God, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't post anything at all. :d We all know how heated politics can get.

For a quick, decently-accurate test on which presidential candidate would most match your opinions, take the time to do this quick test: http://minnesota.publicradio.org/projec ... race_id=13

& non-US residents are allowed to vote as well. Just please be informed before you do.

Reckon us citizens know just damn as little as non us citizens.

-anyone but hilary

I hate how american politicians have only black and white opinions on controversial issues. For example, abortion, we should make abortion illegal except to the people who get raped, only they should get abortion rights. There are so many compromises between sides, all they do is sit on the ends of the spectrum

It is because too many "kids" (and i use this term loosly) just don't care. they think that these decisions have no effect on them. i myself am voting RUDY. in my eyes, he is the man. i grew up most of my life in new york city and i saw first hand the great work he did. i worked in the towers until 9/11 (luckily, it was my day off), and i watched him start one of the biggest rebuilding projects ever taken on by this country. not just the construction, but he helped us rebuild pride in ourselves as americans...and i think hillary is a bitch!!!!

I've been following mccain since 2005 or so, if you've seen my deviantart you'll remember seeing him as my avatar since then until about 6 months ago. I really liked him, I loved the whole two fathers were navy admirals, he went to navy school, was a pilot in the vietnam war, was the guy in the plane of the forrester fire... etc.

But the more and more I see him debate and gain popularity, the more and more I see him less fit to be president, and more fit to be the head of the CIA. However, being a POW during the vietnam war, seeing him speak out against waterboarding made him gain lots of points again; but i'm not sure who I would vote for if I was American.

Romney is incredibly impressive with his orating skills, but he scares me with some of the stuff he says. I've met mormons before, they're intrinsically nice people, they have to be to do what they do, but i'm afraid that the mindset you adopt with the faith is something that warps his decision making process. I'm not saying that he would be a bad president because of his beliefs, but that to be the kind of person to believe what he believes in, he has character traits that are different than that of most Americans, and thus, he is not representative of what they believe. Sometimes what he says just makes me go Nevertheless, he is a proven leaders and would most likely do a good job, but would he do the best job out of all the candidates?

Ron Paul says good, but would he do good? He seems more like a talker than anything else. For me, he's the republican version of Kucinich. I don't want to start a "OMFG YOU'RE A BADDIE RON PAUL IS THE CONTEMPORARY JESUS" fight, but i'll leave it at that I think he would be better off doing what he does now, get the word out on what needs to be changed, be the voice of the American people for change, and let one of the other more stable candidates be president.

I haven't looked at much of what Huckabee has said, aside from the debates, so I won't comment on that. And I feel that all the democrats are a joke, and other than the Mexican none of them are suited to be president. (But, I doubt the American people would vote in a Mexican.)

Okay, so Dom is a Republican

Anyways, the only two that I like(d) are Mike Gravel and Joe Biden. Biden is out and Gravel is completely unkown. So, of the remaining candidates, probably Obama, but I wouldn't mind Hilary. If it were to be a Republican, I'd hope for McCain, because he's the less insane on that side. To me, Gravel is the most sane of them all. Everyone but him seems to be a loony. Huckabee is a religious freak, and Romney will say anything to get into office. Giuliani is a Farking piece of shit (sorry to dumb this one down, but he is); Thompson is a right-wing racist old man who thinks he is Regan, but even if he were close, I don't think that would be a good thing. Hilary seems a bit of a wench to me, but I like her ideas (some of them). Obama seems young and fresh,but he's also a politician and I don't agree with everything he says. You'll never agree with ALL that anybody says, but I guess out of all the "realistic" candidates, I like him the best. but, wtf, GRAVEL 2008!!!!

you forgot to put me in the poll

Clinton was a perv but he did a good job.

Clinton was the man.

I don't understand why people always call him a perv, it's not like Monica was 16 and he made her wear a school girl uniform. They were adults, and a lot of people have done the dirty (in various forms) outside of marriage.

Getting his motor tuned up probably made him loosen up, and perform better as a president. Americans should thank him for being so thoughtful; he did it for his country.

Personally, I wanted to Hi-five him for getting such a young chick to blow him. Who gives a ****? Props to the man. Hilary is a beast

Americans cry because they elected a bad president, to fix that they want to vote in someone just to piss off all the other Americans?

I realize not all Americans are like that, but when most of the American population interacting with the rest of the world through internet are preteen-teens that don't understand anything and make statements like this, it creates a bad image. I guess that's why America's reputation for culture and knowledge is so bad.

not neccesarily, the american economy was amazing during his presidency so they think he made it like that

I think being on the upslope recovery/properity did help him a lot.

He did a good job, the recovery of the economy just amplified that, it didn't create an illusion.

yeah sure he helped the economy, but what about his scandal.

being an american president and lying in front of a judge is unacceptable even if that president did so much. Now people see clinton as a lier and a loser. I think he is too.

So, do you like Bush??

0.o people don't see him as a liar and loser, people love him now - as they do almosty all ex-presidents


What's unacceptable is that him getting a blow job turned into a scandal - that's an issue that should be kept between him, his wife, and Monica.

I like Barrack Obama, but honestly as long as Hillary does not win, all is fine.

Monica Lewinski for president...

getting a blowjob is not the point

the point is that he lied in front of a judge thats called perjury. The president broke a law ffs, they should have kicked his ass out of the white house

And you're probably the only one. Clinton is one of the most popular presidents ever, and still is.

His so called 'scandal' hasn't effected anything. I mean, cmon, he didn't shoot her.. she blowed him. farking epic

I voted for Hillary.
I live to see the day when all citizens get more money stolen from them so they can pay for someone else's health care. I live to see the day when those scumbags who don't want their money stolen from them go to jail for not obeying the government. Those people will need to wake up. The government knows how to spend your money better than you do. Fools.
Or not...
I voted for McCain.
I live to see the day when all citizens get to fear the next bad country and the next wave of terrorist attacks. It's almost here!!! I live to see the day when our children are still meddling in the Middle East because every good American knows that we can solve their problems better than they can. After all we are the USA, the greatest country on Earth. And most of all we need to stay on the offensive because we wouldn't want a nation attacking us at any moment. It could happen at any moment. The Mexicans surprised us over 150 years ago but that hasn't stopped us from being over prepared.
Or not...
I voted for Ron Paul.
I live to see the day when Americans can take the money they earned and invest it where they want to. I live to see the day when we can have a good defense and relations with others without overspending and pushing our agenda. I want see liberty and our government respecting us again, the ones who it serves and not visa versa. It may be a dream but god dammit MLK had one too.


To address some of the other members concerns or opinions:

Which is why he needs to be President.


I will have to strongly disagree. One who says this should not be President:


On the quiz suggested in the OP: I don't think it should be used. An issue I was on par with what my candidate thinks it gave my an "x." Make of that what you will.

Lastly, on the Bill Clinton discussion I think this anonymous quote serves us well:

A lot of people are saying they won't vote for hilary, but if you saw Sicko bu M. Moore, you would know that Hilary is likely to socialize US health care, since she was a great supporter of doing that before she got hushed. You guys know you need health care, and if you think paying 20k at one time for say, a broken pelvis, is a good deal, and better than paying like 1% more taxes for free health care, you better think again.

I say vote for whoever promises socialized health care, more child services, and getting those guns off of everyone's hands! Then hope no one gets assasinated for granting those wishes.

For those still deciding on who to vote for I think this table can be very useful to know what each candidate is for/against when it comes to the issues: http://www.2decide.com/table.htm

As for who I'm going to vote for (this is my first election I'll be voting in) it's going to be Ron Paul.

Perhaps you don't know our nation very well. We are not socialists and I hope it doesn't come to that.

amen

socialism can lead to communism

You do realize your army, fire dept, post office, garbage disposal, and who knows what else is socialized. You should realize a city hasn't burned down to the ground yet, even though the fire dept is socialized. You don't have to be socialists to let people that work for the people control a service that is for the people. Think about it. Moore said it the way he saw it. Sure he didn't ask someone in a downtown toronto hospital how much they waited to get 13 stitches on their finger (6 hours, total work was like 1 hour), but the guy isn't exactly anti-american.

I think redneck has proven himself to make bad decisions before...siding with his thinking might lead to serious HEALTH ISSUES... I couldn't resist the pun.

If you are one of those people that thiks paying 10k for minor injuries, and hundreds of dollars in medication, you must be pretty young and or sheltered. Wait till your insurance company burns you and makes you pay 5k out of that 10k because casts are a privilege, you can do with a splint.

Some states have higher taxes than we do in Canada, and they still don't get all the government services we have in Ontario....and you should also know you already pay taxes for other things.. is that money stolen from you because you shouldn't pay for traffic lights? Be a citizen and support your whole country, even the penniless black gay immigrant sleeping somewhere on a bench. If you don't like being part of a community, go back 2 million years ago and run around gathering fire wood, and berries so you can survive.


Oh right, Canada is socialist for having health care....we're just as democratic as the US.

It's a lot more than 1% for healthcare.

The fallacy in this is that public healthcare works by simply making people pay more taxes, and it doesn't. For public healthcare to work you need a restructuring of all public services; you need to rebuild the way money is cycled from the economy, to the government, to services, and back into the pockets of tax payers. Public Healthcare has failed in Canada because we have the American setup, but with public healthcare. It works a lot better in countries like France where the way ALL public services are much more dynamic; and not treated as a seperate entity.

I think the ideal solution for America is not to make healthcare public, but to make insurance more available, and healthcare more affordable.



Wrong. You're thinking communism, not socialism. We are a socialist state.

I havent decided on whom I will vote for, some of the major issues I have are the taxes and how the rich are not be taxed as heavy as the middle class, I paid in $10,000 in federal taxes last year and just a week ago I figured out my taxes hoping to get some sort of a refund and found out I have to pay in $250 more, why should the middle class have to pay in 10% of their total income to federal taxes when the richer people in the country pay less then 1%.

the second issue I have is health care, the cost is becoming over burdening of many people, and medical bills are outragous, $5,000 for a small out patient surgery where the total time in the hospital was 1 hour, then to top is off many people cannot retire at age 65 since they cannot afford the suplimental health care to go with medicare. Something need to be standardized to make health care afforable of the average person. I was gald to see one of the canidates mention that all US troops that have been deployed should receive goverment health care for the rest ot their lives, that would make my day.