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These are my ideas, thoughts, philosophies, and general opinions on many subjects. This, basically, will be a stream of conscience thought that I will type out. I will use “man” to describe all human existence. I will look at racism, sexism, creation, evolution, god, afterlife, the universe, space, time, and whatever else I stumble upon during this session. I will just say now that I hate *****, crackers, chinks, gooks, kikes, and any and all other racist terms. I hate them because they are just that. Racist terms. With no exact definition, and no clue where they originated from. They are terms. We are all human. We are all equal. We must all work together to further better our own personal lives. Hmm…Personal gain through community. Sounds like the government to me. The government. The most obvious form of control. The government’s of the world control mankind in some half-assed effort to prolong the human existence. Then why do they waste precious time, money, lives, and resources killing each other? The church. That is a much more obfuscate form of control. Its mind-control. I do not blame Christians, Catholics, Buddhists, Muslims, or anything else in between. If you are raised your whole life believing in such an archaic and outdated form of self-gratification, then of course you will believe in such ludicrous things as God, and the Afterlife, or Nirvana, and things of the nature. How could God possibly exist? In this crazy world gone mad…If god did exist, where is the signs? Why do Christians and others get to “pick and choose” what to follow and what not to follow? Is it because the archaic tales of Jesus are outdated, and will not fit in with our modern society? Exactly. It used to be that you had to “break the arms of the wicked”, but nowadays, my good friend pastor bob says “Well ya see Danny, breaking an arm is not supposed to be taken literally!” How can I take god literally, if the bible is a fiction-based story based on nothing but opium and hashish influenced imagination? **** Jesus. If Jesus did exist, and was the son of god, was he a human, or a god? Was he part god, part human? Was he a human, but only until he “transcended”? **** you, and your ridiculous beliefs. The bibles, and all religions, were created in times of chaos. Times when it was perfectly okay to defecate in the streets, and have sex with children and puppies. The bible was created to stop such insanity. It did just that. Why is it so popular today? Business. God Sells. There are many people out there who only “believe” in God to establish a fan base through which they can acquire money. A Christian would sooner donate their kidney to the church then $1 to a starving hobo. You can never prove a Christian wrong though, because they are always ready to defend their just and noble cause. Isn’t that a little suspicious? Do they teach you how to hate in Sunday school? Christianity is just a tad more civilized than Nazism, and that’s about it. Nazis hate gay people. I don’t know one Christian who isn’t a homophobe, aside from the gay Christians, which is very preposterous, because God hates Gays. Hypocrites. Anyways. Another reason why god cannot exist is because of alien life forms. Now I’m not saying Area 51 and all that jazz, but come on now. Don’t you think that somewhere in this giant place, we call the universe; there is a planet similar to ours? With life forms similar to humans, and a 9-5 job. I say we evolved from bacteria, but how exactly did that bacteria get there. Micro bacteria? How did the micro bacteria get there? Was it all just floating around in space waiting to be collided together at colossal speeds? How did the space get there? I am a big fan of the phrase “I am everything and I am nothing.” For that very reason, and because of that. I can understand how once we were all here our minds evolved into…well….this. This computer, Microsoft word, the English language, pronunciation, grammar, keyboards, electricity, and the list goes on. The Pythagorean Society, once said, that reality is mathematical in nature. Meaning that the plants exist because 2+2=4. I love this theory, this, philosophy. It’s simple, clear, and concise. I am also, however, an artist, and think that even though things exist mathematically, and in a sense because of math, that without art and beauty, they wouldn’t exist either. Think of it like this, if we all had bald hair, we all wore grey jumpsuits, we all worked at megacorp corporations, and we all had the same 5 by 5, grey cubicle, would we really be alive. Would we have racism? Don’t you think the mathematicians and scientists of the world would genetically alter DNA to make us all the same height, and skin color? Racism is fun, or, it can be, if it is light-hearted and playful in nature. Hateful things disgust me. I hate hatred. I despise the fact that humans are so…animalistic in nature. We kill, we ****, and we die. That’s about it. I wish I could leave this wretched place and live on the andromeda galaxy. I wish things were better here. I wish I didn’t have to suffer these disgusting chains of humanity that constantly drive my emotions, and my thoughts. Whenever I see an attractive woman, I want to impregnate her. Whenever I hear about someone saying some stupid bullshit about me, I want to rip their throat out and drink the blood. Why? Why do we have to suffer emotion? I know without emotion we wouldn’t have beauty, and without beauty, we wouldn’t have nice. It’s the greatest Catch-22 of all time. Without the hatred towards our actions, and ourselves we wouldn’t have the love towards ourselves and our actions. We kill so that we can create, but is it a we? We don’t work together as a community to prosper together, and we don’t share our emotions with each other. If someone broke down and cried in public, people wouldn’t stop and help; they would pass her by and say how weird she is. Time. Is it a form of control? Is it really all that great? Don’t we just use time as…sort of a metaphor. Then why do humans run in cycles? Why do we operate the way we do? The answer is what we evolved from. Where we are going, in order to know that, look where we have been. We have conquered our planet, and are starting to move onto the rest of our galaxy. Our technology, which we created, is constantly growing, and ever evolving. Why do we have intercourse? To survive, no doubt. It is our most basic instinct, before hatred, there was love. Then why, unlike monkeys, do we always seek out the richest, the hottest, and the coolest people? Its because that’s how we were raised. It is our society, it’s our family, and it’s our life. Get paid, and get laid, and that’s what things are about nowadays. We smoke tobacco, drink alcohol, and then have the audacity to outlaw the rest of our natural drugs? We say one thing, and do another is what it is. Weed and Mushrooms shouldn’t be illegal. They serve the same purpose as alcohol, tobacco, and many times sex. They dull the pain that we have created, and thus, inflicted upon ourselves. We must really hate ourselves.

We'll, I think the person who quoted that think's very little of his fellow man.

I too am around 15 years of age. Odd.

It's not that he would hate mankind for being dominant, maybe because he doesn't like war and murder, or the savage things we do...Maybe it's deeper. Maybe he was emotionally scarred by someone....Maybe...hmmm...

My quote comes from the Pythagorean Society, they say that "Reality at it's deepest level is mathematic in nature." Which I can see why you would think that. The universe is very orderly. That is also another big reason for me not to believe in a God. There doesn't have to be a God when it's plain to see the natural order of life. If our Sun Supernova'ed, we would all die, and all the planet's in our solar system would be wiped to cosmic dust. Ahh, therein lie's the beauty of nature, and of Natural Order. Eventually, all the rubble, and dust, and all other things would swirl around, and around, and around, and around, and form entirely new planets, and form an entirely new solar system. The Sun would recreate itself with all sorts of gas and whatnot. And life would begin again with a planet similar to our own. Liquid Water, the right distance to and from the sun, oh, and the orbit's would re-create themselves as well. It would begin anew with plant life, and microscopic organisms. Then those would develop into primitive beasts, probably similar in naur to our own preceeding Dinosaurs. Then eventually, a new form of man would come into the fold. This new form of man would Rediscover all of our wonderful inventions. And rediscover all of our disgusting hate, rape, murder, and savage things, of that nature, because it is part of mans nature. Which brings me full-circle back to your original quote, which Is why I don't understand why you would hate mankind, when it is our natural impulses telling us to survive, and bc\ecome the bets, most powerful, and most savage of them all. It is an inside force that compels us all, as well as compelling us to think, and believe in a higher order, e.g. God. There are two forces, and the names I forget, but in any case, these two forces...One of them compels everything to stay constant, and for everything to be similar. The other, forces thing's to change, and force's a new look on things. Ahhh yes, it is a vicious cycle. Forcing us to stay the same, yet always change. Which is why if you were frien'ds with somebody as a child, and you didn't see them again until you were both dying, you would both be exactly the same, yet, you both would have changed very much. It's that deeper level of being, that, everlasting search for something new. For something wonderfully beautiful, and horrendously ugly.

Moreover, I am more of an artist than a philosopher, so this quote <i>Reality at it's deepest level is mathematic in nature</i> Does intrigue me, however, I find that I disagree in someways as well. Art and Math, Science and Life, all go hand in hand with each other. With Math, you get your wondrous natural order. With Art, you get the glorious beauty of say a Waterfall, or perhaps a Butterfly. With Science you get the Deeper understanding of math, and art. With Life, you get to experience these thing's on a daily basis. So I suppose I should re-phrase what I quoted about the quoter of this orignal quote. He doesn't dislike war, or humanity. He's just pessimistic, you know, a glass half empty kind of guy. I see the Nazi Concentration Camps, and although I realise how awful and grotesque it truly is. I also do not dwell on it. Human Life, (individually) is too short to spend it dwelling on the evil's of mankind. Why waste your day's complaining about the brutality of your fellow man, When you could go see the Sistine Chapel, or sit by a waterfall and calmly spend your time around butterflies, and the beautiful thing's of our short time on this ever-growing place we call home. Life has no beginning. Life has no end. Life is everlasting. Humans. Are not.

rriiiggghhhtttt....Although I find myself in agreement with your entire comment, Your valid points would be much more throughly expressed, had you used proper grammar, spelling, and even punctuation.
Nothing in this world is fact.
(aside from little things, like THE FACT that I am white, my mom is my mom, etc. etc.)
How did the dinosaurs die?
The theory of course, is that a giant meteor wiped them out, and there is a lot of evidence pointing to sed meteor.

However...

We don't know that there is a God, in fact, we don't even have proof that the man Jesus existed. It could all be a lie, prolonged only by the feeble hypocrisy, that is modern orthodoxy.
I stated that we should've made a "sophistication" club. I didn't really think that through, neither did I know it would spark such controversy. I meant only that we are two intelligent young beings, who should travel around myspace dropping "philosophical" bombs. In doing so spark somewhat of a thinking revolution, in modern society.
The point is, I should've worded my previous statement much differently. My main reason for not doing so, was to gauge your reaction, and see for myself, the true nature of your mind.
Now that I know you're not merely some kid who just finished reading some philosophy book, I am glad that we are friends.
Which could also be another crippling factor in society as we know it.

Think of it like this...

Murder was invented before man could think. Violence is a part of our nature, sewed into the fabric of every human being in existence. How do we quench our violent nature?? The more creative, argo artistic humans do so by discussing human nature with question upon question upon question, thus being classified as philosophers, or as we know them in modern society...potheads.
Scientists do test, upon test, upon test, to find the true nature of something. I find science rather boring...But, once they understand something, they no longer fear it. Mystery is one of the greatest fears of mankind.
New things, creative things, most of the time more logical things are almost always mysterious. They are always feared by man. It takes time for them to soak in and become a natural part of society. For example. It was a FACT that the world was flat. Well, all you would have to do is watch a ship sail away, to see that the world is round. If the world were flat, the mast of the ship wouldn't go down gradually, it would get smaller gradually, because of the spherical shape of the world, it goes down, seemingly fusing with the water. Thanks to satellite imagery, we do know now, for a FACT, that the world is round.
This was an intriguing mystery to people of the time. Took awhile to sink in. Just like pot. In a few generations, the President him/herself will be smoking it on the front steps. Just give it time...

So...
To restate my opening argument, "nothing is fact" except for the basics, such as me being white, meaning I have little melanin in my skin. My biological mother, is the person who gave birth to me. The world is round, etc. etc..
Things like Jesus, God, Homer and the Iliad/Odyessy, are not fact. Although it is a fact that the Iliad/Odyssey existed, because we do have the fractured remains of the document, do we not? Whether or not there was a Homer, well, we would have to study the writings, or tablatures, or w/e the were written on/carved on. (I haven't studied Homer in quite awhile, give me a break here...)

So.
Although I agree that few things in modern society are a FACT. I do not agree that we are a "barbarian" culture. We are in some respects, but we don't Kill, Pillage, Rape to survive. That would be the Vikings. We are barbaric, but we are the most powerful society man has seen yet. We are not perfect, but I would not want to live in ANY other place, at any other time. Roman and Grecian culture were both polytheistic were they not? They would pray to the "Water God" for rain, and things of that nature. We have evolved. We have taken that concept to a new level. How you think that no one believes in God is ludicrous. Do you know how many Christian assholes I get preaching to me because I am an atheist? Better yet, do you know how many I have persuaded to become atheist? I do use scientific proof to prove that God doesn't exist, things like God stating that there is Him, and only HIM...why are there 19 major world religions then? And why is it a HIM, and why is he white?? The reason he is a white male, is becaue the whole thing is a crock of shit. Christians are the most hypocritical bastards on the face of the Earth. The Bible was written by a bunch of white males. If there were a God, it would most likely be a being of pure energy. Furthermore, if God exists, he/she/it has abandoned us.

PHEW...Im done for awhile...

These are some txt files i dug up. Heh. I get bored. And i type alot.:






and thats about all i got.

dont mind me im just sharing. Sharing is caring. Yes im an atheist.

Oh i just found this rebuttal to some guy ya it was awhile ago too. hmm.

The obscenely long thread that will take forever to read.

These are some txt files i dug up. Heh. I get bored. And i type alot.:






and thats about all i got.

dont mind me im just sharing. Sharing is caring. Yes im an atheist.

Oh i just found this rebuttal to some guy ya it was awhile ago too. hmm.