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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:18 am |
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Mr.Ganji wrote: XemnasXD wrote: Gays are natural. No one is getting hurt. So why should we curb our behavior. THE BIBLE SAYS ITS WRONG SO ITS WRONG LOL the bible was also used to prompt slavery, white supremacy, war, and genocide not only that but theres alot of stuff the bible says you shouldn't do that are flat out ridiculous....
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:25 am |
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XemnasXD wrote: You'd fight for your right to [insert verb] you want because its not hurting anyone and its none of their business. Its what you like and that is all that matters. derp derp "KABOOM." Oh hai der, congrats, etc. itt: .curve dodges questions. itt: Xemnas delivers.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:32 am |
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Barotix wrote: XemnasXD wrote: You'd fight for your right to [insert verb] you want because its not hurting anyone and its none of their business. Its what you like and that is all that matters. derp derp "KABOOM." Oh hai der, congrats, etc. itt: .curve dodges questions. itt: Xemnas delivers. I'm sorry, I don't know what questions I dodged? XemnasXD wrote: .curve wrote: We're also of higher intelligence...
So that means what? That we have the intelligence to discriminate against homosexuals unlike animals. Or that we have the intelligence to pass laws to lock them away. Or that we have the intelligence to fear, hate,or kill them for unknown reasons. If your imply that because have have higher intelligence we should, even if were are gay, make the conscious decision not to act on it then you're just being a hypocrite. If that were the case then all straight people should make the conscious decision to only have sex with the intent of procreation. All people should make the decision to ignore feelings of love in the face of more rational options and love is anything but rational. Humans are humans. Gay people are humans too. I still don't see why you seem to think we should act like we're not human. Sex is natural. Gays are natural. No one is getting hurt. So why should we curb our behavior. I'm saying that since we have higher intelligence, we have the ability to make that choice. I didn't say we have to or not. I don't think I've ever said I'm against gays. You're trying to go off the premise of me saying that being straight is the rational choice. I didn't say that. I said it's not socially accepted, because it's not. Being gay is natural? What? S why do gay people get offended when you call them gay. If someone called me straight, I'd say thanks and walk away. No one gets hurt? Isn't AIDS/HIV spread more easily in homosexual relationships? Say someone steals stuff all the time. He's not hurting anyone. Just stealing stuff. Why should he curb his behavior? XemnasXD wrote: You'd fight for your right to [insert verb] you want because its not hurting anyone and its none of their business. Its what you like and that is all that matters. It is my business. If gay marriage becomes socially acceptable, I'll be angry. I do not want my children growing up, seeing the news and thinking it's ok. No.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:45 am |
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Quote: Say someone steals stuff all the time. He's not hurting anyone. Just stealing stuff. Why should he curb his behavior? Strawman. How is stealing not hurting the victim that the person stole from? Seriously?  Hurt isn't always bodily harm. Now let me get one thing straight (lol pun): Being gay is not natural because it's socially unacceptable? I really hope that is not what you're implicating here. Quote: why do gay people get offended when you call them gay Why do people get offended when they are called niggers? Come on man. Seriously? Quote: Isn't AIDS/HIV spread more easily in homosexual relationships? Because there is a higher probability of blood being exchanged, but that is a moot point. gays are ok in my book. We're all human so it's not like it matters in the end.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:56 am |
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Barotix wrote: Quote: Say someone steals stuff all the time. He's not hurting anyone. Just stealing stuff. Why should he curb his behavior? Strawman. How is stealing not hurting the victim that the person stole from? Seriously?  Hurt isn't always bodily harm. Now let me get one thing straight (lol pun): Being gay is not natural because it's socially unacceptable? I really hope that is not what you're implicating here. Then how do you know that publicly advocating homosexuality isn't hurting someone? Barotix wrote: Quote: why do gay people get offended when you call them gay Why do people get offended when they are called niggers? Come on man. Seriously? Because they were forced into slavery based on their race and have been prejudiced far beyond the gay community has? Barotix wrote: Quote: Isn't AIDS/HIV spread more easily in homosexual relationships? Because there is a higher probability of blood being exchanged, but that is a moot point. gays are ok in my book. We're all human so it's not like it matters in the end. I do agree. I don't care if someone is gay or not. I believe I was the first to say congratulations and wish him success. Just saying.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:03 am |
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i don;t get offended if you call me gay. If you call me a **** then we have a problem, that word has a negative connotation and is often said with a some kind of malice behind it....
as for the HIV/AIDS thing again you have no idea what your talking about. If you knew how AIDS spread or what it even was or if you even looked up the percentages you wouldn't be spewing more garbage...
Explain to me though how seeing gay couples will confuse or harm your child. And explain to me why the gov't should refuse to deny gay couples the same legal right that come with marriage such as the right to leave property where they want, money where they want, etc.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:11 am |
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XemnasXD wrote: i don;t get offended if you call me gay. If you call me a **** then we have a problem, that word has a negative connotation and is often said with a some kind of malice behind it....
as for the HIV/AIDS thing again you have no idea what your talking about. If you knew how AIDS spread or what it even was or if you even looked up the percentages you wouldn't be spewing more garbage...
Explain to me though how seeing gay couples will confuse or harm your child. And explain to me why the gov't should refuse to deny gay couples the same legal right that come with marriage such as the right to leave property where they want, money where they want, etc. 4 letter word? I dunno what that is honestly. Irrelevant though. Quote: The term men who have sex with men (MSM) refers to all men who have sex with other men, regardless of how they identify themselves (gay, bisexual, or heterosexual). In the United States, HIV and AIDS have had a tremendous impact on MSM. Quote: MSM made up more than two thirds (68%) of all men living with HIV in 2005, even though only about 5% to 7% of men in the United States reported having sex with other men. Quote: For complex reasons, HIV/AIDS continues to take a high toll on the MSM population. For example, the number of new HIV/AIDS cases among MSM in 2005 was 11% more than the number of cases in 2001. It is unclear whether this increase is due to more testing, which results in more diagnoses, or to an increase in the number of HIV infections. Whatever the reasons, in 2005, MSM still accounted for about 53% of all new HIV/AIDS cases and 71% of cases in male adults and adolescents. Taken from: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htmIf my child sees two men on television and thinks it's ok, what's stopping him from going out and doing it? Media has a huge influence these days, you can't deny that. I honestly don't know why the government does or does not want to make it legal. Nor does it matter to me if it's illegal.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:26 am |
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Quote: Then how do you know that publicly advocating homosexuality isn't hurting someone? How the hell does it hurt anyone? Stealing is obvious, killing is obvious, and lying is obvious. The victim is harmed. There is no victim with Homosexuality no one is physically, mentally, spiritually, or financially harmed from homosexuals being homosexuals. Give me one example where someone can be harmed from homosexuality. Don't pull the "you don't know." I didn't pull that when you brought up stealing, I posted "the victim is hurt." So who is the victim here? Who is hurt from homosexuality? I like pussy because I like pussy. It is that simple. No1 told me to. I didn't choose it. I just love women. If one is born liking the opposite sex then why can't one be born liking the same sex? What is difficult to grasp here?
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:28 am |
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Barotix wrote: Quote: Then how do you know that publicly advocating homosexuality isn't hurting someone? How the hell does it hurt anyone? Stealing is obvious, killing is obvious, and lying is obvious. The victim is harmed. There is no victim with Homosexuality no one is physically, mentally, spiritually, or financially harmed from homosexuals being homosexuals. Give me one example where someone can be harmed from homosexuality. Don't pull the "you don't know." I didn't pull that when you brought up stealing, I posted "the victim is hurt." So who is the victim here? Who is hurt from homosexuality? The guy who's on the bottom is the victim? He ends up with an asshole so big that shit will just seep out? What if you end up with aids.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:33 am |
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Snoopy wrote: Barotix wrote: Quote: Then how do you know that publicly advocating homosexuality isn't hurting someone? How the hell does it hurt anyone? Stealing is obvious, killing is obvious, and lying is obvious. The victim is harmed. There is no victim with Homosexuality no one is physically, mentally, spiritually, or financially harmed from homosexuals being homosexuals. Give me one example where someone can be harmed from homosexuality. Don't pull the "you don't know." I didn't pull that when you brought up stealing, I posted "the victim is hurt." So who is the victim here? Who is hurt from homosexuality? The guy who's on the bottom is the victim? He ends up with an asshole so big that shit will just seep out?What if you end up with aids. You mean the other homosexual that chose to be the bottom because he enjoys getting cock in the ass? Yes, he is such a victim: As is the female virgin that likes it rough, and the boxer that lost his match; don't forget the novice gamer. They're all victims.  Aids is not the fault of homosexuality. It's the fault of 1]stupid partners (hetero or homo), 2]no protection (hetero or homo), and 3]general ignorance.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:48 am |
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Barotix wrote: Quote: Then how do you know that publicly advocating homosexuality isn't hurting someone? How the hell does it hurt anyone? Stealing is obvious, killing is obvious, and lying is obvious. The victim is harmed. There is no victim with Homosexuality no one is physically, mentally, spiritually, or financially harmed from homosexuals being homosexuals. Give me one example where someone can be harmed from homosexuality. Don't pull the "you don't know." I didn't pull that when you brought up stealing, I posted "the victim is hurt." So who is the victim here? Who is hurt from homosexuality? I like pussy because I like pussy. It is that simple. No1 told me to. I didn't choose it. I just love women. If one is born liking the opposite sex then why can't one be born liking the same sex? What is difficult to grasp here? I am personally disgusted when I see two men kissing in public. As for how anyone could be harmed, hmm, mentally, possibly.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:01 am |
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Those numbers say alot of nothing even if they were true. They basically say of the men living with aids 68% of them received it through male on male sex, percent is probably lower than that because that number probably includes males who have sex with males and use intravenous drugs. So your listing a percentage of a percentage of people with AIDS. The fastest rising group with AIDS in the US is African-Americans. So what do you make from that, that black people are the spreaders of AIDS and are most vulnerable to it. I hope not because that would be stupid, just like your assumptions about gays and AIDS is stupid. You still don;t know what you are talking about. You posted statistics from CDC which prove nothing and show nothing about how or why AIDS is so high in that population.
Kids aren't as dumb as you think. The fact is kids will be kids and if they see something that interest them they might try it and if not they won't. I don't think you seeing all the gay couples in the world would make you want to have sex with a guy. From my own personal experience growing up i never had any known contact with homosexuals and the first one i knew of was myself. Still seeing all those straight couples didn't make vagina any more tempting...
Kids see alot of stuff they shouldn't and they don't end up repeating it. Especially now a days kids are exposed to alot more sex and alot more violence and it hasn't turned society into a violent sex crazed arena, at least no more than it normally was. If think seeing gays is harmful to kids then i guess from the age of 1-18 you should keep them away from the news, school, movies, TV, the internet, books, and just about any human contact because "harmful" stuff that kids can imitate is everywhere....
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:10 am |
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XemnasXD wrote: Those numbers say alot of nothing even if they were true. They basically say of the men living with aids 68% of them received it through male on male sex, percent is probably lower than that because that number probably includes males who have sex with males and use intravenous drugs. So your listing a percentage of a percentage of people with AIDS. The fastest rising group with AIDS in the US is African-Americans. So what do you make from that, that black people are the spreaders of AIDS and are most vulnerable to it. I hope not because that would be stupid, just like your assumptions about gays and AIDS is stupid. You still don;t know what you are talking about. You posted statistics from CDC which prove nothing and show nothing about how or why AIDS is so high in that population. Those numbers are from the Center for Disease Control(CDC). Notice the .gov at the end of that URL? It's a government site/institution. I don't see what African-Americans have to do with this topic at all... My assumptions are based on numbers. Apparently you know more than the CDC about those numbers. Why are you on a simple MMO forum then arguing with me? You should be working for the CDC correcting numbers like that. XemnasXD wrote: Kids aren't as dumb as you think. The fact is kids will be kids and if they see something that interest them they might try it and if not they won't. I don't think you seeing all the gay couples in the world would make you want to have sex with a guy. From my own personal experience growing up i never had any known contact with homosexuals and the first one i knew of was myself. Still seeing all those straight couples didn't make vagina any more tempting...
Kids see alot of stuff they shouldn't and they don't end up repeating it. Especially now a days kids are exposed to alot more sex and alot more violence and it hasn't turned society into a violent sex crazed arena, at least no more than it normally was. If think seeing gays is harmful to kids then i guess from the age of 1-18 you should keep them away from the news, school, movies, TV, the internet, books, and just about any human contact because "harmful" stuff that kids can imitate is everywhere.... There is a difference between me and a child. I am grown. Educated. I'm not susceptible to influences from the media and what not. Not like they are. Sex used to be a taboo. Porn films used to be shown only in underground theaters for select few people. Nowadays kids are having sex earlier and earlier. That's just ignorance if you actually believe that society is the same now as it was 40 or 50 years ago.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:27 am |
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.curve wrote: Those numbers are from the Center for Disease Control(CDC). Notice the .gov at the end of that URL? It's a government site/institution.
I don't see what African-Americans have to do with this topic at all... My assumptions are based on numbers. Apparently you know more than the CDC about those numbers. Why are you on a simple MMO forum then arguing with me? You should be working for the CDC correcting numbers like that. You didn't read anything i said. Im telling you that the information you posted is not relevant to your statement "Isn't AIDS/HIV spread more easily in homosexual relationships?" all the numbers you posted don't prove anything to support that. I explained what the numbers did show and what that information would mean if you were trying to use it to justify your statements, thats where african americans came in. .curve wrote: There is a difference between me and a child. I am grown. Educated. I'm not susceptible to influences from the media and what not. Not like they are.
Sex used to be a taboo. Porn films used to be shown only in underground theaters for select few people. Nowadays kids are having sex earlier and earlier. That's just ignorance if you actually believe that society is the same now as it was 40 or 50 years ago. So from the ages 1-18 you never saw a movie where someone was killed, heard a story where someone was murdered, watched a show where people used drugs or someone got shot?
Believe it or not its ignorance to think society has changed much. Teen pregnancy is not a new age thing. Just back then when a girl got pregnant at 16-17 she normally got married. Look at the age most grand parents got married and settled down. Mostly likely it will be a very young age it wasn't uncommon for an 18 year old guy to be married 40-50 years ago. Sex was never taboo. This country, the US, has a deep religious background and unlike the rest of the world treats issues dealing with sex alot differently. Everyone does it, around the right crowd people talked about it but in public settings it was looked at differently. Porn films are hardly ever shown in theaters anymore and when they were it wasn't for a select few people. If you were 16 and had the money chances are you could get in just like 14 year old kids see R-rated movies. Also their were porn mags back then too believe it or not. If anything modern American society has become more hush hush about sex than before. The topic is talked about on pins and needles whereas if you look at some of things that were done and said 40-50 years ago people would NEVER be able to get away with them now.im not even going to respond to snoopy seeing as he is a 13 year old borderline retarded waste of space and is useless in any and all topics he is present in, even his own....
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:27 am |
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.curve wrote: Sex used to be a taboo. Porn films used to be shown only in underground theaters for select few people. Nowadays kids are having sex earlier and earlier. That's just ignorance if you actually believe that society is the same now as it was 40 or 50 years ago. Is it just me or is this basically like shooting yourself in the foot? Oh well, forget I said anything. You kids have fun. 
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:40 am |
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XemnasXD wrote: im not even going to respond to snoopy seeing as he is a 13 year old borderline retarded waste of space and is useless in any and all topics he is present in, even his own.... Coming from the disease spreader himself. You stupid queer. You're the borderline retard if you like guys. <<Tut tut tut.. Now didn't you create a thread about how you were going to improve your behaviour? As I expected, you didn't make any progress at all. Banned. - Ru>>
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:45 am |
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XemnasXD wrote: im not even going to respond to snoopy seeing as he is a 13 year old borderline retarded waste of space and is useless in any and all topics he is present in, even his own.... LoL
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:47 am |
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XemnasXD wrote: You didn't read anything i said. Im telling you that the information you posted is not relevant to your statement "Isn't AIDS/HIV spread more easily in homosexual relationships?" all the numbers you posted don't prove anything to support that. I explained what the numbers did show and what that information would mean if you were trying to use it to justify your statements, thats where african americans came in.
Well seeing as how homosexual relationships account for 68% of all men living with HIV, that says that it is more commonly spread. XemnasXD wrote: So from the ages 1-18 you never saw a movie where someone was killed, heard a story where someone was murdered, watched a show where people used drugs or someone got shot?
Believe it or not its ignorance to think society has changed much. Teen pregnancy is not a new age thing. Just back then when a girl got pregnant at 16-17 she normally got married. Look at the age most grand parents got married and settled down. Mostly likely it will be a very young age it wasn't uncommon for an 18 year old guy to be married 40-50 years ago. Sex was never taboo. This country, the US, has a deep religious background and unlike the rest of the world treats issues dealing with sex alot differently. Everyone does it, around the right crowd people talked about it but in public settings it was looked at differently. Porn films are hardly ever shown in theaters anymore and when they were it wasn't for a select few people. If you were 16 and had the money chances are you could get in just like 14 year old kids see R-rated movies. Also their were porn mags back then too believe it or not. If anything modern American society has become more hush hush about sex than before. The topic is talked about on pins and needles whereas if you look at some of things that were done and said 40-50 years ago people would NEVER be able to get away with them now. From 1-8, not really. Anything after that i already had it instilled in my mind that murder, rape, drugs were crimes and they were bad. Have you seen any movies lately? Almost any comedy movies have some sort of sexual connotation in it. Horror movies are infamous for their obligatory sex scenes. Sex is not hush hush these days. Yes I realize Playboy was around back then. But in small numbers compared to now. Actually yes, porn movies had to be hidden and were only available to a select few.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:48 am |
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Snoopy wrote: XemnasXD wrote: im not even going to respond to snoopy seeing as he is a 13 year old borderline retarded waste of space and is useless in any and all topics he is present in, even his own.... Coming from the disease spreader himself. You stupid queer. You're the borderline retard if you like guys. viewtopic.php?f=12&t=110710 So much for that aye? lol
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:50 am |
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.curve wrote: It is my business. If gay marriage becomes socially acceptable, I'll be angry. I do not want my children growing up, seeing the news and thinking it's ok. No. .curve wrote: If my child sees two men on television and thinks it's ok, what's stopping him from going out and doing it? If you child turns out to be gay, then it's because he/she was born that way. But don't go blaming it on gay people and the media. You know that no amount of media influence can change your sexual orientation. BTW, It's well known and backed up by a huge body of evidence that most children raised by gay couples turn out to be straight, therefore ruling out that environment has to do anything with it at all. A child has the same chance of being a gay whether raised by str8 or gay parents. And why would you be "angry" that gay people like me get married? We as law abiding citizens and taxpayers have the right to happiness, equal protection, and liberty like every other citizens. And it's NOT YOUR BUSINESS what I do in the comfort of my bedroom with another consenting adult.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:52 am |
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Plutonium wrote: .curve wrote: It is my business. If gay marriage becomes socially acceptable, I'll be angry. I do not want my children growing up, seeing the news and thinking it's ok. No. .curve wrote: If my child sees two men on television and thinks it's ok, what's stopping him from going out and doing it? If you child turns out to be gay, then it's because he/she was born that way. But don't go blaming it on gay people and the media. You know that no amount of media influence can change your sexual orientation. BTW, It's well known and backed up by a huge body of evidence that most children raised by gay couples turn out to be straight, therefore ruling out that environment has to do anything with it at all. A child has the same chance of being a gay whether raised by str8 or gay parents. And why would you be "angry" that gay people like me get married? We as law abiding citizens and taxpayers have the right to happiness, equal protection, and liberty like every other citizens. And it's NOT YOUR BUSINESS what I do in the comfort of my bedroom with another consenting adult. Angry knowing that my child will grow up thinking it is okay and acceptable. I don't care what you do in your bedroom. In public I don't want to see some man kissing another man. Holding hands, flirting, ech.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:55 am |
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Fury wrote: Snoopy wrote: XemnasXD wrote: im not even going to respond to snoopy seeing as he is a 13 year old borderline retarded waste of space and is useless in any and all topics he is present in, even his own.... Coming from the disease spreader himself. You stupid queer. You're the borderline retard if you like guys. viewtopic.php?f=12&t=110710 So much for that aye? lol Was sorry for being an asshole back then. Now I'm not. I'm a 13 year old borderline retard because I say what I want without caring who it hurts or annoys amongst other things. However, it's a pity I'm not as smart as him, it's a pity I'm not the ripe old age of 19 as he is, it's a pity I'm not as cool as him. But I'm glad I don't look like him. 
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:05 am |
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more common in doesn't mean its more easily spread. AIDS is more common in africa but the population isn't any more or less vulnerable to it than any other population. Saying that 68% the men with AIDS have had gay sex only says just that. AIDS is spread when a body fluid that contains it permeates a mucus membrane. ALL humans follow these conditions regardless of who they have sex with. The reason the disease is more prominent in one community hat the other encompass much more information than the statistics you are providing which as i said amount to nothing in the face of the argument at hand.
There were theaters that showed porno movies in TIMES SQUARE. How is that hidden or hushed. Theaters were the same then as now, if you have the money most likely you are getting in. It wasn't a few people supporting a multi million dollar industry. I don't know about you but sex was the farthest thing from my mind from the ages 1-8, seeing my parents together didn't translate into a sexual relationship until i was much older. So why would seeing two guys together cause a different reaction. If i ask why he has two daddys instead of 2 mommys my parents would probably say because and leave it at that. Kids ask alot of questions that they're not ready to hear the answers too, if you want to explain the relationship behind it then thats up to you but its not necessary for kids, not even close to being necessary.
Anyone who was around during the 70s would admit that sex was much more open back then. Anyone who was alive during the 60s would agree that sex wasn't as hidden from children as it is now. Anyone who was born in the 50 would probably admit to having sex and starting a family at a much younger age than most kids now a days would even dream of.
btw snoopy im 20, we've been over this though so please stop checking me out...your not old enough....but you can save that to your desktop...i won't mind...
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:11 am |
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XemnasXD wrote: more common in doesn't mean its more easily spread. AIDS is more common in africa but the population isn't any more or less vulnerable to it than any other population. Saying that 68% the men with AIDS have had gay sex only says just that. AIDS is spread when a body fluid that contains it permeates a mucus membrane. ALL humans follow these conditions regardless of who they have sex with. The reason the disease is more prominent in one community hat the other encompass much more information than the statistics you are providing which as i said amount to nothing in the face of the argument at hand.
There were theaters that showed porno movies in TIMES SQUARE. How is that hidden or hushed. Theaters were the same then as now, if you have the money most likely you are getting in. It wasn't a few people supporting a multi million dollar industry. I don't know about you but sex was the farthest thing from my mind from the ages 1-8, seeing my parents together didn't translate into a sexual relationship until i was much older. So why would seeing two guys together cause a different reaction. If i ask why he has two daddys instead of 2 mommys my parents would probably say because and leave it at that. Kids ask alot of questions that they're not ready to hear the answers too, if you want to explain the relationship behind it then thats up to you but its not necessary for kids, not even close to being necessary.
Anyone who was around during the 70s would admit that sex was much more open back then. Anyone who was alive during the 60s would agree that sex wasn't as hidden from children as it is now. Anyone who was born in the 50 would probably admit to having sex and starting a family at a much younger age than most kids now a days would even dream of.
btw snoopy im 20, we've been over this though so please stop checking me out...your not old enough....but you can save that to your desktop...i won't mind... 1. You're only making my case more. If it's more dominant in Africa than any other country, than obviously they're more fcking likely to spread it. Adversely, if it's more dominant in gay men, they are more god damn likely to spread it.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:12 am |
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Snoopy, why do you also hate black people? What other group(s) of people do you hate?
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:15 am |
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Plutonium wrote: Snoopy, why do you also hate black people? What other group(s) of people do you hate? I don't hate black people at all. One of my best friends is black.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:25 am |
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.curve wrote: Plutonium wrote: .curve wrote: It is my business. If gay marriage becomes socially acceptable, I'll be angry. I do not want my children growing up, seeing the news and thinking it's ok. No. .curve wrote: If my child sees two men on television and thinks it's ok, what's stopping him from going out and doing it? If you child turns out to be gay, then it's because he/she was born that way. But don't go blaming it on gay people and the media. You know that no amount of media influence can change your sexual orientation. BTW, It's well known and backed up by a huge body of evidence that most children raised by gay couples turn out to be straight, therefore ruling out that environment has to do anything with it at all. A child has the same chance of being a gay whether raised by str8 or gay parents. And why would you be "angry" that gay people like me get married? We as law abiding citizens and taxpayers have the right to happiness, equal protection, and liberty like every other citizens. And it's NOT YOUR BUSINESS what I do in the comfort of my bedroom with another consenting adult. Angry knowing that my child will grow up thinking it is okay and acceptable. I don't care what you do in your bedroom. In public I don't want to see some man kissing another man. Holding hands, flirting, ech. How about seeing a woman kissing another woman or a woman holding another woman's hand? Does that make you angry too? I see it on a daily basis. If that doesn't make you angry, why is it not okay for the opposite gender to do the same? Snoopy wrote: Plutonium wrote: Snoopy, why do you also hate black people? What other group(s) of people do you hate? I don't hate black people at all. One of my best friends is black. Then what is the point of posting someone's pic and making fun of them. Okay, he's African American and has braided hair. So what? Why are you making fun of people for how they look? It's no different than posting a pic of a disabled person and making fun of them. Please be civil because I really look forward to posting my marriage/wedding pics in this thread in a few coming weeks without any of this immature behavior.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:28 am |
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I love how it's automatically seen as racism when a white guy laughs at a black guy.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:30 am |
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Plutonium wrote: How about seeing a woman kissing another woman or a woman holding another woman's hand? Does that make you angry too? I see it on a daily basis. If that doesn't make you angry, why is it not okay for the opposite gender to do the same? No, double standard obviously.
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Post subject: Re: I Will Get Marry Very Very Soon Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:32 am |
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.curve wrote: 1. You're only making my case more. If it's more dominant in Africa than any other country, than obviously they're more fcking likely to spread it. Adversely, if it's more dominant in gay men, they are more god damn likely to spread it.
1. africa is not a country again your not reading anything im posting. You posted a percent of a percent. Your information says that of all the men who have AIDS a % of them have had gay sex. Thats all it says. It does not say anywhere that gay people are more likely to spread the disease. The way the disease is spread and the populations its prominent do not scale together. The chance of catching the disease drops to .01 when using a condom between ALL couples. If people use protection gays are no more likely to spread the disease than any other population. So in answer to your original statement that HIV/AIDS is more easily spread in a homosexual relationship the answer is NO. Biologically there is nothing in gay sex that makes the disease easier to spread and if a condom is used the chances of it being spread becomes equal all across the board. The reason why the disease was initially so high in the gay population was simply because we didn't use condoms because we can't have babies. Is it more common, perhaps, i haven't seen the statics on Gay Men with HIV/AIDS only the statistics on Men with AIDS who have had gay sex which are two completely different numbers.
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