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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:24 am 
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Unfortunately ppl in srf doesn't respect someone else belief, they'd troll you and turn you into an idiot to boost their ego. You'll rarely hear "i respect your belief man" but most are "bs, you are wrong, i am right"

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Why should anyone respect crippling delusion.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
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Science isn't about people with fancy degrees, do you even know how the scientific method works? :palm:

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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
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Every single "theory" or belief in this thread hasn't been proven. That's why I see this is a pointless Debate. People assume a theory is a fact.. It's A FUCKING THEORY.. I don't respect bullshit from people that don't respect what i have to say. Voice your opinions, but stop bashing on everyone elses just because you sound convincing.. Girls scouts convince people to buy cookies. Wooptie fucking doo.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
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Barotix wrote:
Tasdik posted in this thread twice, did not provide any of his "evidence," and got a 5 page topic. Can you say:


No.

Tasdik hasn't even logged on to the forums since an hour after his last post in his thread. No wonder he hasn't made any replies, eh?

Also, he asked a question. A broad question as to why we don't believe in god/creation.
He explained why, and also explained that he's in the process of obtaining more data/information from a colleague at his college.

Thank you, come again.

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It's not the fact that it hasn't been proven, it's the fact that there are even theories and hypothesis, and evidence to support them. Science has that, religion does not.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
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Science isn't about people with fancy degrees, do you even know how the scientific method works? :palm:


Its a requirement to learn in school here and obviously science isnt about that. I wasnt generalizing science i was pointing out the idiocracy of some poeple who follow other peoples theories becuase of fancy degrees and because of said persons evidence.

Please read :palm:

"but don't be like some idiots (not saying its anyone in here but just people) that willingly follow other peoples evidence towards why something happens because other people witness it and they have fancy college degrees"

Where in that blurb am i saying science is about fancy degrees.


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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
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Blackdragon6 wrote:
Every single "theory" or belief in this thread hasn't been proven. That's why I see this is a pointless Debate. People assume a theory is a fact.. It's A FUCKING THEORY.. I don't respect bullshit from people that don't respect what i have to say. Voice your opinions, but stop bashing on everyone elses just because you sound convincing.. Girls scouts convince people to buy cookies. Wooptie fucking doo.
Your really gonna suggest Natural Selection is just an opinion?

@Leehyori26 what do you call the people who follow that guy who wears a robe and just reads from a 3000 year old book every Sunday and preach that it all started in a garden with a man and a woman and a talking snake?

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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
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Blackdragon6 wrote:
Every single "theory" or belief in this thread hasn't been proven. That's why I see this is a pointless Debate. People assume a theory is a fact.. It's A FUCKING THEORY.. I don't respect bullshit from people that don't respect what i have to say. Voice your opinions, but stop bashing on everyone elses just because you sound convincing.. Girls scouts convince people to buy cookies. Wooptie fucking doo.



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It's not the fact that it hasn't been proven, it's the fact that there are even theories and hypothesis, and evidence to support them. Science has that, religion does not.


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Why should anyone respect crippling delusion.


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In case you don't get it, the bottom 2 are pretty much the reasons why science should be looked to over religion.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:19 am 
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UnbeatableDevil wrote:
Anyways, Tasdik trolled us all, especially Evga and fug dup with their mile long posts :sohappy:

None of my mile long posts have been addressed to or in reply to Tasdik. :sohappy:

But I just feed you, ffffffuuuuuu!

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as far as we know at this point is that the world was created by some other way (not trying to say it was created by a higher being). I kinda agree with twilinger. Just because there's evidence to point something out from a few scientists and such people automatically think well hmm maybe thats how life works or how the world was created.


What is this "other way" you speak of? What evidence is in support of this "other way"? You should look into how science works, what peer review is, and the evidence in support of the big bang. Just because you can not recreate an event doe not mean it didn't take place. I can find 100 clues to convict a person of a crime without having been a witness of the crime. This example applies to evolution and the big bang. also, a little tidbit, science is open to being wrong. It's called falsification and is openly accepted. Theories WANT to be falsified to further strengthen them, find faults, correct misguided predictions, adjust conclusions and above all, further understanding. This is how science works, the same can not be said about the stagnation of religion.
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Every single "theory" or belief in this thread hasn't been proven. That's why I see this is a pointless Debate. People assume a theory is a fact.. It's A FUCKING THEORY.. I don't respect bullshit from people that don't respect what i have to say. Voice your opinions, but stop bashing on everyone elses just because you sound convincing.. Girls scouts convince people to buy cookies. Wooptie fucking doo.

Do you know what a scientific theory entails? Do tell. I have a feeling you don't.

To those who say I'm being trolled, it takes me all of 2mins to type these posts... not much effort here. I actually enjoy the discussion. I wish Tasdik would return with his material , though.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
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uhmm, why everyone talk about scientific method but not about religious method? Is this an equal fight?

There're lots of evidence about god actually. You should look around for people's story and experience. Experience that cannot be shown but can only be told :)

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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
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uhmm, why everyone talk about scientific method but not about religious method? Is this an equal fight?

There're lots of evidence about god actually. You should look around for people's story and experience. Experience that cannot be shown but can only be told :)

And each story can be simply explained via natural processes?
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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
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uhmm, why everyone talk about scientific method but not about religious method? Is this an equal fight?

There're lots of evidence about god actually. You should look around for people's story and experience. Experience that cannot be shown but can only be told

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NuclearSilo wrote:
uhmm, why everyone talk about scientific method but not about religious method? Is this an equal fight?

There're lots of evidence about god actually. You should look around for people's story and experience. Experience that cannot be shown but can only be told :)


That is not evidence. Sorry.

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uhmm, why everyone talk about scientific method but not about religious method? Is this an equal fight?

There're lots of evidence about god actually. You should look around for people's story and experience. Experience that cannot be shown but can only be told :)

It's because almost every here is very simple minded without a shred of personal belief. They only believe what others tell them is true and in turn they have become Sheep. Don't be a fucking sheep. It's pathetic.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
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There're lots of evidence about god actually. You should look around for people's story and experience. Experience that cannot be shown but can only be told

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Quote for fucking truth. I almost wanted to give Silo a chance. Figured maybe he would be somewhat serious in a thread. This killed it.

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It's because almost every here is very simple minded without a shred of personal belief. They only believe what others tell them is true and in turn they have become Sheep. Don't be a fucking sheep. It's pathetic.


By your logic, I experienced the mystical purple fairies. They granted me wishes and made me tea and tucked me into bed. Don't tell me it wasn't true, I experienced it.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear atheists/evolutionists
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Every single "theory" or belief in this thread hasn't been proven. That's why I see this is a pointless Debate. People assume a theory is a fact.. It's A FUCKING THEORY.. I don't respect bullshit from people that don't respect what i have to say. Voice your opinions, but stop bashing on everyone elses just because you sound convincing.. Girls scouts convince people to buy cookies. Wooptie fucking doo.

You keep making the implication that a theory equates uncertainty when it does not. Do you even know what a scientific theory is? I'm not trying to sound condescending but your ignorance on the subject is rather unfortunate.


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Blackdragon6 wrote:
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uhmm, why everyone talk about scientific method but not about religious method? Is this an equal fight?

There're lots of evidence about god actually. You should look around for people's story and experience. Experience that cannot be shown but can only be told :)

It's because almost every here is very simple minded without a shred of personal belief. They only believe what others tell them is true and in turn they have become Sheep. Don't be a fucking sheep. It's pathetic.


Another misconception. We dont follow like sheep on what we are told, if we wish to we will study and find out for ourselves why I should accept a scientific theory as a fact, and if its backed up by mountains of evidence that can be proven at a whim, why should I deny evidence just to keep myself in a warm coccoon of delusion? To feel safe in the knowledge that what I believe in is correct without evidence? For acknowledging these facts would be destroying the very way of life in which I have been raised in, to break these delusions would be like taking a big part of your life away. That is why people are blindly religious.

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Every single "theory" or belief in this thread hasn't been proven. That's why I see this is a pointless Debate. People assume a theory is a fact.. It's A FUCKING THEORY.. I don't respect bullshit from people that don't respect what i have to say. Voice your opinions, but stop bashing on everyone elses just because you sound convincing.. Girls scouts convince people to buy cookies. Wooptie fucking doo.

You keep making the implication that a theory equates uncertainty when it does not. Do you even know what a scientific theory is? I'm not trying to sound condescending but your ignorance on the subject is rather unfortunate.

A scientific theory does NOT mean fact. I never said it equates uncertainty, but neither does it equate definite certainty. That is what I'm saying. You all seem to think you are right and no one else.

I not saying the evidence isn't there. But it's still very much incomplete and only theoretical possibility. Not Proof. That is why this debate is useless. Even if they somehow found 100% infallible proof that the big bang was a result of science, that does not negate the possibility of a God. You guys say people only believe in God to comfort themselves. Then why does almost everyone here argue that Science is right and nothing more. It's almost like a lot of you are afraid of something you cannot touch or see or even understand. And your comforted by the delusion that you'll never have to face it. Simplicity works for you and that's ok.

@.curve Were you on E? (I'm being serious)

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A scientific theory does NOT mean fact. I never said it equates uncertainty, but neither does it equate definite certainty. That is what I'm saying. You all seem to think you are right and no one else.

I not saying the evidence isn't there. But it's still very much incomplete and only theoretical possibility. Not Proof. That is why this debate is useless. Even if they somehow found 100% infallible proof that the big bang was a result of science, that does not negate the possibility of a God. You guys say people only believe in God to comfort themselves. Then why does almost everyone here argue that Science is right and nothing more. It's almost like a lot of you are afraid of something you cannot touch or see or even understand. And your comforted by the delusion that you'll never have to face it. Simplicity works for you and that's ok.

@.curve Were you on E? (I'm being serious)


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We are afraid? Just because people don't make an absolute statement, doesn't mean they're afraid.

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What is it that were afraid of? I pretty sure were not afraid of some invisiable man in the sky. There's no point for you to further discuss.
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Even if they somehow found 100% infallible proof that the big bang was a result of science, that does not negate the possibility of a God.
Because this statement clearly shows you have no intentions of wanting to see/acknowledge whatever evidence we do bring to the table and would whether continue to be ignorant or to be more blunt stupid.

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uhmm, why everyone talk about scientific method but not about religious method? Is this an equal fight?

There're lots of evidence about god actually. You should look around for people's story and experience. Experience that cannot be shown but can only be told :)

It's because almost every here is very simple minded without a shred of personal belief. They only believe what others tell them is true and in turn they have become Sheep. Don't be a fucking sheep. It's pathetic.

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A scientific theory does NOT mean fact. I never said it equates uncertainty, but neither does it equate definite certainty. That is what I'm saying. You all seem to think you are right and no one else.

I not saying the evidence isn't there. But it's still very much incomplete and only theoretical possibility. Not Proof. That is why this debate is useless. Even if they somehow found 100% infallible proof that the big bang was a result of science, that does not negate the possibility of a God. You guys say people only believe in God to comfort themselves. Then why does almost everyone here argue that Science is right and nothing more. It's almost like a lot of you are afraid of something you cannot touch or see or even understand. And your comforted by the delusion that you'll never have to face it. Simplicity works for you and that's ok.

Not exactly. I've only argued that things that I have supported have the data and empirical evidence that can classify them to be logically valid. Should you have misinterpreted that to be something other than what I intended is another matter entirely, but I've tried to make myself as clear as possible about my position.

As I've mentioned before in this (and other threads), if you already convinced yourself that a god of sorts must exist somehow, you will never be swayed by anything anyone else has to offer no matter how factual it is until your claim is conclusive even if it never is. If that makes you happy, then more power to you. Just don't expect others to feel the same thing you do on the basis that you believe it to be true. That you're willing to effectively dismiss future knowledge about our origins on the basis that it's inconclusive with your personal emotions is rather nescient and self-serving, in my opinion.

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I don't care if people believe what I believe. That's what I've been trying to say. Almost every single long post here is people claiming their opinion is fact and only theirs. I believe in God. Some people don't. I have no problem with people arguing their opinions/beliefs. But they shouldn't doubt others and be disrespectful about it.

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Now I'm reminded why I don't really bother to participate in most topics that have anything to do with religion. This topic is a good source of lols though. Carry on.

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I don't care if people believe what I believe. That's what I've been trying to say. Almost every single long post here is people claiming their opinion is fact and only theirs. I believe in God. Some people don't. I have no problem with people arguing their opinions/beliefs. But they shouldn't doubt others and be disrespectful about it.



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It's because almost every here is very simple minded without a shred of personal belief. They only believe what others tell them is true and in turn they have become Sheep. Don't be a fucking sheep. It's pathetic.



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I don't care if people believe what I believe. That's what I've been trying to say. Almost every single long post here is people claiming their opinion is fact and only theirs. I believe in God. Some people don't. I have no problem with people arguing their opinions/beliefs. But they shouldn't doubt others and be disrespectful about it.



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It's because almost every here is very simple minded without a shred of personal belief. They only believe what others tell them is true and in turn they have become Sheep. Don't be a fucking sheep. It's pathetic.



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That was my way of acting just like every other single person on here. Bold one was to make a point, one I see no one got..

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That was my way of acting just like every other single person on here. Bold one was to make a point, one I see no one got..


That's because you weren't "making a point which no one got." "Making a point which no one got" is just your scapegoat for the fact that you got called out basically on making an incredibly hypocritical statement.

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I don't care if people believe what I believe. That's what I've been trying to say. Almost every single long post here is people claiming their opinion is fact and only theirs. I believe in God. Some people don't. I have no problem with people arguing their opinions/beliefs. But they shouldn't doubt others and be disrespectful about it.

Analyzing someone else's beliefs is not being disrespectful. If you share your beliefs, you will always risk having those beliefs judged and dissected by others. Solution? Keep them to yourself. If you want me to respect your beliefs, then believe something respectable.


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