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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:17 pm |
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UnbeatableDevil wrote: Squirt wrote: What if everytime you clicked the button a microbe or a chicken would die. They are living creatures. What's the diffrence? Sony one with your bullshit " humans can lise logic and reason" According to what some of you are saying none of us have yhe right to control other lives, but we kill and eat other LIVING animals everyday very interesting that no one replied to this post, lulz that part reminds me of a discussion Ted Bundy was having when he brought up how our lives are no more important to us than their own life to a cow, chicken, or any other animal .... forgot the exact quote (can't remember where it was in this thick-ass book), but you get the idea ... .curve wrote: Life's a bitch. Simple as that. Indeed and lol @ the vid
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:32 pm |
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 10:02 pm |
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Icealya wrote: will never know who it was and what it did. you could've killed a cockroach, you might've killed the biggest criminal in the world, or you killed Batman. YOU WON'T KNOW WHO YOU KILLED. THEREFORE IT IS IRRELEVANT AND GOD WILL NOT PUNISH YOU BECAUSE FOR ALL HE KNOWS YOU PUSHED A BUTTON AND SOMEONE COINCIDENTALLY DIED AT THE SAME TIME.
Just Push the freakin' button. It's not like you will turn some one crippled when you hit the button. you kill him, therefore that person won't even notice it, because he/she is dead. So you're saying that it's ok to secretly drop a bomb into a cinema. You went home and you don't know the face/name of the victim, and you don't feel sorry about it? Icealya wrote: READ.
I am a farked up person with a farked up family. I don't know more then half my family. One of my aunts lives like, 10 miles away from me, never seen her, don't really care either. One of my uncles who lives even closer died a while ago. Didn't know, didn't care. I have family in Canada, Germany, Australia, the US and Switzerland. Never met 'em and their the biggest part of my family. the people who do live close are annoying the **** out of me, I only see them like 3 times a year for no longer then one hour each because they only come to some of my family's birthdays, on which I always work because I couldn't care less about my parent's and sisters' birthdays. I never even bother to show up on theirs.
I didn't grow up with a family motto of seeing family a lot. It's a miracle I know their names and faces. My sister and parents annoy the **** out of me, I could miss them but the chance they will die is small.
c'mon, I'm not very smart, I don't put connections that easy and that button will prolly give them a natural way of dying. My Dad is very old, my mom is always on the road and my sister races through forests on horses. There's plenty of ways they could die naturally.
It's just me, but I really wouldn't care. I'm farked up like that.
Like I said before, people die, they're being replaced by two new lives somewhere else. I'm so sorry you life is thus sad. But... you don't have a girlfriend? You want to put her on the dead list? Azilius wrote: If you want to go moral extreme here, stop using plastic. Stop buying things made by children. Stop buying food that isn't grown near by/organic. Stop using gasoline/fossil fuels. ETC ETC ETC They are necessary in life. You don't need 1M$ to survive. You can still work. It's your damn laziness that kill you. Azilius wrote: Also realize that the chance you kill your own mother is 1 in >6,000,000,000. She has a higher chance of getting struck by lightning while winning the lottery. Yes, but killing by his own son is pathetic.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 10:23 pm |
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I wonder why everyone who wouldn't push the button and are vigorously arguing against it never see other lifeforms as "someone".
I'd push the button. If someone dies, someone dies.. Be it human, animal, instect or whatever.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:11 pm |
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I'd press it a thousand times
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:33 pm |
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I'd choose the box over 1M$. Push 7B times to kill all people in the world  Oh wait, need to make a button/key presser first, too lazy to do it 
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:05 am |
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NuclearSilo wrote: I'd choose the box over 1M$. Push 7B times to kill all people in the world  Oh wait, need to make a button/key presser first, too lazy to do it  Terribly obvious troll is terribly obvious.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:28 am |
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ofy1993 wrote: Azilius wrote:
He was comparing killing a random person with killing a person directly in front of you. So I countered with comparing indirect killing with direct killing. THAT is why I made the comparison. Not because I believe it to be true (though it partially is, and it's much more than 'thousands' of indirect deaths).
Not only that but if you think you can't survive without inorganic food and fuel you're an idiot. My chemistry teacher does it every single day. Are you that naive to believe that we need fuel for everything and buying locally grown food is that much of a challenge?
Also.. the point of the mother argument wasn't to point out that you would be killing a mother, but YOUR OWN mother because it is much more psychologically disturbing. Try to keep up =|
I get it. If you can make yourself feel good about killing a person by believing that it's ok as long as you don't know who it is, then be my guest. But know this; There is no difference to the person you kill, the people you injure whether or not they see you. Is someone shoving a stick up your ass or do you feel the need to insult to everyone who disagrees with you? Now, show me where I said you can't survive without those? Let's say you need to go to America from Europe. Do you have a choice to not use a transport which does not use fuel? Or forget continents, let's say you wanna go to a neighbor city. Do you know any kind of transport which does NOT use fuel? I'm of to bed. Prob won't reply after this one. Most people who said no here will most likely press the button (I have doubts for myself as well). Hence, the useless long discussions. .curve wrote: Life's a bitch. Simple as that. ^true that. Sigh... I didn't insult you because you didn't agree with me, but I did (very subtly) insult you because you can't read. Here is where I inferred that you cannot live without those things I mentioned. Quote: Stop buying inorganik food? Do we have a choice? Stop using fuel? Do we have a choice? Clearly I was referring to everyday usage and not 'if you had to' usage. And yes, If there was some kind of display showing the person you killed you'd be more likely NOT to press the button.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:40 am |
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kreisimees wrote: I wonder why everyone who wouldn't push the button and are vigorously arguing against it never see other lifeforms as "someone".
I'd push the button. If someone dies, someone dies.. Be it human, animal, instect or whatever. Then if i choose to press it and you are the one i kill... ops, my bad and kthanxbye for the 1m. 
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:10 am |
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Mirosuke wrote: kreisimees wrote: I wonder why everyone who wouldn't push the button and are vigorously arguing against it never see other lifeforms as "someone".
I'd push the button. If someone dies, someone dies.. Be it human, animal, instect or whatever. Then if i choose to press it and you are the one i kill... ops, my bad and kthanxbye for the 1m.  Refer to .curve wrote: Life's a bitch. Simple as that.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:19 am |
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McLovin1t wrote: +1 lmao, It seems like the people who said no are the only ones taking it too serously, what are you guys trying to prove, its the inter webs no one really cares about your views on human life/morality/right or wrong, etc....And for the ones trying to justify saying yes stop using the whole kill 1 person to save 1000, that was from Wanted and you know it and i know it and it's a very boring reason. Reise wrote: Ashikiheyun wrote: Reise wrote: Nobody's arguing whether or not pressing the button would be the "right" thing to do.
Some of us are just more realistic than others. And I realistically could not live a normal life after knowing that I caused someone's death, I"d probably go insane with guilt. You could have indirectly killed a handful of people already, or in the future. Dwelling on crap like that is pointless. +1 Only good post, out of the hundreds of self righteous pretentious crap I just read.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:22 am |
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John_Doe wrote: righteous pretentious crap I just read. Its a gaming forum. If one person says they would, why would someone else try to argue with them trying to get them to change their post?
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 8:38 am |
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Mirosuke wrote: kreisimees wrote: I wonder why everyone who wouldn't push the button and are vigorously arguing against it never see other lifeforms as "someone".
I'd push the button. If someone dies, someone dies.. Be it human, animal, instect or whatever. Then if i choose to press it and you are the one i kill... ops, my bad and kthanxbye for the 1m.  If i happen to be the random choice for the push, then so be it. 
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 8:51 am |
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Sorry guys i love you all but i would push the button.
Would i be haunted forever? Would the torment that i have just killed a human stop me from living my life? No.
It's simple, i would use the same Psychology as they did during the Firing Squad executions. In each squad, one member would be given a Blank. So, i would do the same thing, how am i to know that my pressing the button, was not relieving someone from a horrible, painful slow death. or even, how do i know that a person who is already dying's "last breath" isnt taken away by my button pushing. I didnt cause his death, i merely allowed him to pass on to wtvr he believed came after death.
Hi =)
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 8:56 am |
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Yo sup. And I agree with you, but you never know until you actually do it lol.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 2:59 pm |
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So after we push, some serial killer started to kill? Actually, you can simply works for the mafia to put a bomb into a cinema, there you go you got you money for you jobs. No need for button miracle 
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:16 pm |
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You are missing the point. Is $1,000,000.00 worth the death of a human being? To me, $1,000,000.00 is worth the death of 30+ human beings.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:21 pm |
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nah, human life is priceless. You can ask that everyone around you, they'll agree with that.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:30 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: nah, human life is priceless. You can ask that everyone around you, they'll agree with that. BS, give the button to anyone suffering in a third world country and they push the button without a second thought, they wouldn't go on some long ass tangent about morality, right or wrong, or the value of life.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:38 pm |
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The majority rules, I don't care if they are from third world or not
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:48 pm |
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What majority? From the look of the poll, looks like yes to the question is the majority.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 5:52 pm |
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as said, go out and ask a random people how much cost a life.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 5:56 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: as said, go out and ask a random people how much cost a life. its 1 dollar and 5 cents. no wait, thats freedom.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:10 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: as said, go out and ask a random people how much cost a life. A life costs however much life insurance it has on it. Which is why...and here's a shocker...a husband or wife will murder their spouse in order to collect that money. It happens all too often.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:19 pm |
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.curve wrote: NuclearSilo wrote: as said, go out and ask a random people how much cost a life. A life costs however much life insurance it has on it. Which is why...and here's a shocker...a husband or wife will murder their spouse in order to collect that money. It happens all too often. and people think pressing a button is bad
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:22 pm |
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It happens often, but no one in the world feel proud about it. Therefore, it's a wrong thing. Quote: and people think pressing a button is bad I don't think pressing a button is bad. But I think the act of killing some random people directly or indirectly is bad. You need to get rid of the thought "It's just a button" from your head, because we're playing with someone's life, it's not a toy. The button is a cover for a crime weapon. It simply makes you feel lightly about the situation.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:50 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: It happens often, but no one in the world feel proud about it. Therefore, it's a wrong thing. Quote: and people think pressing a button is bad I don't think pressing a button is bad. But I think the act of killing some random people directly or indirectly is bad. You need to get rid of the thought "It's just a button" from your head, because we're playing with someone's life, it's not a toy. The button is a cover for a crime weapon. It simply makes you feel lightly about the situation. When it comes to the situation I described, it's usually desperation. $1,000,000 would drastically change many people's lives. You're making this situation into way more than it is by adding all these variables which weren't in the original question. Quote: I don't think pressing a button is bad. But I think the act of killing some random people directly or indirectly is bad. I'd suggest not driving a car then. Those emissions are pretty toxic. Those points aside, millions of people die every day. My pressing the button would just be 1 of those millions. I wouldn't know which. It wouldn't matter. That person is a statistic just like they would have been, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 7:02 pm |
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dying in a natural way is different with dying because someone triggered/caused it. You mother will die sooner or later by aging, if not by accident by chance. Everyone dies. What does it make a difference if I stab her to death? You tell me.
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Post subject: Re: The Box - Would you push the button? Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 7:19 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: dying in a natural way is different with dying because someone triggered/caused it. You mother will die sooner or later by aging, if not by accident by chance. Everyone dies. What does it make a difference if I stab her to death? You tell me. How am I to know which of those millions of people who die daily is the one that died as a result of my button pressing? You can't. Anonymity is your greatest friend in this case. To answer your question though, I will know you stabbed my mother to death. There's your difference. I believe the term I'm looking for here is... Blissful ignorance
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