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I kind of figured as much. But then again, I'm half asleep, so you know. But yeah, it'd be nice if they fixed that.

This is why I think so little of your arguments... and why I'm not even going to bother reading the rest of your rant... I was clearly answering Tasdik question about why such a high % of blacks voted for Obama, and saying it wasn't because he was black, but because he's democrat, and democrats have a history of giving them what they want(need =/= want). The rest of my reply/ies was/were about people on welfare in general. I didn't carry the sentiment that I'm speaking of black people. There are more than likely a larger population of whites on welfare than I'd think blacks anyways, seeing as whites are usually majority, even in prisons.

One thing I have to add-as I'm sure the Bastiat quote went way over your head-just because government does something, doesn't mean it's the only way it can be done, and more often than not, it's usually the most inefficient way. Wow... nvm... I'd have to go and start from square one to explain to your dumbass how exactly our notso"free market" works, and why the cost for schooling and health care is so high... It truly is laughable to say the government helps us pull ourselves up, when it would be 10x easier to stand the **** up if the government had stayed the **** out of said sector in the first place... The federal government is not supposed to have anything to do with half the shit it's involved in, and if you're so ignorant to not understand this is the very reason we are in such trouble with inflation, and debt, I'm done even directing a response your way... Your constant misguided belittlement has grown old, and even more so as it's been completely based off your spinning of context, and assumptions.

--Oh and I notice you did try to justify your choose(Obama), way to have a backbone. I'll stick to voting on principle, and not for someone who does the exact opposite as I would. I don't typically want to use drones to kill people that do not deserve it. But I'm not liberal either, so I guess that's why I actually hold true to my beliefs(not a lot of hero worship going on for political figures for me), and hold someone responsible for their actions.

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There is one line in that whole rebuttal that makes me laugh so hard Everytime I see it, the "govt is involved in shit they shouldn't be" line. To me following the constitution so heavily is like following the word of the bible to a t, it just doesn't make sense. Your following something that was created before cars, auto weapons, the Internet, tv, a much larger global economy etc. Something that at this point is fairly outdated. Like the second amendment for example, they more than likely made that because at the time the possibility of Britain invading and coming into your home is much higher than it is today. So back then it had a point but now it is just beig used to give crazed gun nuts an excuse to have 7 ak's and a .50 cal. None of which would be particularly usefull in a home invasion situation.

ak not useful in home invasion? Oh OK.

So just to be clear your response to Tasdik was that black people voted for Obama because black people typically vote for democrats because democrats give them what they want and what they want is handouts?

And I know "want handouts" is a paraphrase so you might strawman and say i'm putting words in your mouth so i want to clarify that "want handouts" is my shortened term for wanting something to be handed to you rather than earned.

And I also want to clarify that the someone is black people because the entire response was prompted, you even admitted, by the question tasdik put forth and the subject of that post was Black people.

I read the rest of your post but it's in such denial of your own stupidity and full of willful ignorance there's no point in even responding to you at this point. Like i know you're trying to say something about my backbone but i have no idea what and i don't even care.

I just have to accept that even though someone could be kept alive by gov't assistance when they are younger they could grow up and condemn the very same assistance for others.

Your very existence is a paradox. Your arguments eventually fold on those themselves because they constructed of nothing but hot air and you're an idiot, and a cunt, and you think that because you volunteer you can't be a bad person.

just stay there, trapped in 1950

Them US citizens think M4A1 is better that AK47.

I think we believe this, because it's true. The AK47 is outdated and for that reason it hasn't had the advancements in accuracy. Granted the 762x39 is a good round, its just getting it down range on target. I've shot both, the M4 much more, and I do have a good share of russian weapons, and most are tanks, but I'd go with the m4 anyday.




"Someone" is people in general... Which white/black/brown was an explanation of why people would vote for handouts. If I'm gonna beat up on blacks, I'll just call them the N word, I don't need to be coy about it, but I know it's a human problem, and not a single race. So STFU already your argument is stupid... Oh yeah, I guess I should also feel stupid for working my ass off, and making something of myself, because I also used the air, and the ground, and without them I wouldn't have been able to do any of that... Makes more damn logic than your "the government was the only reason you could do anything" argument. Oh and I'm a cunt and a bad person, because I don't believe in your retarded logic of government spoon feedings, not because I'm actually either of those things. You emotional little boy... Men do not call men cunts...

So none of this is about black people? Oh wait you later on said it was about black people and only the part at the end where you mention "someone" wasn't. That part was about everyone. But then you said you were responding specifically to tasdicks question about black people. So even without the "someone" it's obvious that if that was your response you're saying black people prefer welfare.

Look you can twist and twirl this all you want but you're not doing a very good job. You sound just like Newt Gingrich in that video I posted, the irony of which I find hilarious.

If you can't tell the difference between a government putting food on your table via welfare to keep you alive as a child. Telling your mom that if she didn't send you to school she could be arrested for negligence and breathing air and walking on the ground I think you should feel stupid. It's not like that everywhere. In much of the world you would have ended up dead or on the streets or some kind of combination but in the US we do things a little differently and now that you're a big boy it's not ok for us to do them for others.

So yeah you're an idiot. A racist. A cunt. An ignorant piece of shit. A college level libertarian. A closet republican. You are a bad person. No amount mentioning how much you work will fix it. No amount of insisting how you made something of yourself will fix it. No amount of volunteering to fight fires will fix it. No amount of defining what men do will fix it. And no amount of calling me an emotional little boy will fix it.

For the record, I am a pansexual waveforce of divine energy, i don't even have a penis.

You are everything that's wrong with the entire world and you will never understand it because it's not as simple as 2+2=4 But whatever. I don't think you can trip over your words anymore but feel free to try. If anyone could do it's you. You got the touch man! You got the power!

Oh, silly girls, still fighting over these silly things.

Anyone who will say an ak74 is good for stopping a home invasion is Farking retarded, I'll give you an ak and I'll take a m1911 lets see who kills who. When you're trying to corner with a full length full stock gun it's a bitch. Meanwhile i'll be up your ass with .45 cal shots, shit shotguns are known to be better to stop home invasions even though they have close to the same length when a baddie here's a shotgun rack they shit bricks and sprint out of there.

A gun is a gun. Regardless of what it is, as long as it's capable of putting a bullet in you, it'll stop a home invader. (Unless they're just stupid.)

In a home invasion it doesn't matter what gun you have. It all comes down to the situation and the skill of the people.

lol It's so obvious you haven't been around guns in your life. You called it an m1911 =P I'm guessing you probably play shooters. Anyways, in a home invasion, stopping power is what you want. So in theory, you are correct about an AK74, as 762x anything is usually going to cut through walls. Where a pistol, depending on what its chambered in and whether you're shooting mags or not, will usually have more stopping power at a short distance.(the AK will go right through you, without really causing too much damage) Maneuverability, isn't too much the issue, seeing as must 12 gauge hunting shotguns(common in most homes) are longer than your standard AR. -- sum it up, you probably wouldn't use a AK for the same reason you wouldn't use a 308/30-30/300win/270/etc.. Those are very high velocity projectiles vs a .38/357, 9m/.40/.45



Yum yum, love the projection! Again, I answered tasdik's question which was aimed at blacks... I never said I believe the shit LBJ or FDR stated, and I never said anything racist. I'm in equal disagreement about anybody that is lazy, steals from people, and does nothing for themselves... I do not give a shit what their skin color just happens to be... ... ... Just because you say I'm something doesn't make it true, you're not the media/blogger. lol

Again, I'm currently replying to an idiot that voted for Obama and justifies all his wrong doing, and doesn't understand the most basic economics... so yeah, excuse me for not really putting much weight into your baseless name calling, or for that matter, your opinion. You've certainly proven yourself a pseudo-intellectual many times over, and have not really shown anything admirable about your character(being a jackass that grandstands about shit he knows nothing about is only admirable on reddit).

num num, here's some food for thought to all you guys that voted for Obama because he's here for you! (I think you guys are idiots for the very meaning of the word, not because I'm being scurrilous, but because you're actually well misinformed, your arguments for him make no sense, and are hypocritical. He's clearly not what the liberal base says they're for.)

lmao @ Fiction's memes. If you are a middle age man and cant differentiate paying taxes from getting robbed...:facepalm:

Really would like to see the source for that LBJ quote...

l2read son...

would've saved you the time from writing those two shitty paragraphs...


Just to sum this up

When tasdick asked why black people vote democrat Fiction responded by posting the reason why as "The Great Society Plan" and "The New Deal" one of which was a major civil rights break through that was passed by LBJ who he then quoted as saying “I’ll have those ***** voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” again a reference specifically to black people.

Now while most people would look at that and see how it's mostly entirely about black people it's not. That was just the best historical reference Fiction could find on the subject at the time. Really he was talking about everyone regardless of race. The unfortunate use of not one but two examples that single out black people shouldn't (and poor people[GSP and ND] but again ignoring the historical poverty rate of black people he was talking about all poor people) be taken as Fiction talking about black people. He was talking about anyone.



So really he never even answered Tasdicks question. What a jerk!

Congrats on actually reading up about the quote, and everyone (anyone whose studied their presidents anyways) knows how crude LBJ was. I answered his question... democrats give blacks what they want... The only thing that changed in my reply is your understanding of my quote.

Also the source of the quote was from an insider, so no real "proof" he said it, but either way, it's common knowledge he still lived the message.

ok so all of that wasn't about any one particular race as you've been arguing for the past 4 or 5 post BUT you did answer his specific question about black people.

So just to be clear what do the democrats give black people that black people want?

Welfare.

It's funny, people on welfare, be it in a red state or blue state, they disproportionately, vote democrat.

Eh, maybe I've lived/worked/and went to school with too many blacks that have never done wrong by me, or maybe it's just my understanding that the color of someone's skin is not grounds to prejudge their character, but I just can't bring myself to dislike a person based on their race.

So then
Q: Why do black people vote democrat?
A: Welfare.

So why have you been arguing for the past 5 or 6 post that you weren't saying that about black people, you were saying it about all people. This is the 3rd time this has happened in the past 2 or 3 pages.



make it the 4th time.

i can't do this anymore. at this point you must be trolling me.

maybe this has all been a troll.

Things tend to seem that way when you have a hard time understanding.

I'm sorry, you were just calling me a racist because you misunderstood what a racist actually is, so me not knowing you were too stupid to even understand what a racist was; I was trying to explain that I do not think all blacks are lazy, and want welfare for the very reason they are black.

It's gotta be on your side, because I've never been accused of being a racist and I'm sure others would have spoken up about it, had I been coming off racist. You're a race baiter that at just the mere sight of someone discussing the statistics of a race, you scream racist. Then you wonder why you're so confused when the person tries to explain the context of a post that you've directed your ignorant assumptions at... and we're back to the price of tea in china... Seems like deja vu, or didn't you just do the same kind of assuming, spinning, and moronic tactics a couple pages back? To make it even more clear... Tasdik's question wasn't actually directed at the entire race of black people, but simply the seemingly high percentage of blacks that voted for Obama. There is also a good percentage of these same folks living on welfare, and they voted for Barrack because he's a democrat, and democrats promote welfare, so it's not because he's half black. Then I made the mistake of segueing into talking about my disdain for welfare before making the complete distinction that I was not in fact singling the blacks out.

I thought you were trolling me at first, but then it became too apparent that you like making a spectacle of something that you disagree with, just to justify why your logic and understanding, isn't compete rubbish.

No lets not get confused.

Q: Why do black people vote democrat?
A: Welfare.

that's racist and that's what i accused you of saying and what you've been denying this whole time. Even when you rephrase it as

Q: Why do black people vote democrat?
A: People on welfare typically vote democrat

Or

Q: Why do black people vote democrat?
A: A high number of black people voted for Obama. A good amount of these black people are on welfare so they voted for Obama because democrats support welfare.


It's all racism you Farking idiot. This is not a spectacle. This is your own retarded thoughts being questioned in the hopes that you will realize how retarded they are. So far you have 4 times directly contradicted yourself and somehow you still keep going. It's like you won't stop being stupid no matter what.

... oh my... There was a "yahoo answer" with a guy asking about statistics from a study that stated black males are more likely to have an STD than other races, and it was purely based off statistics.. and of course, like you, there was a person screaming racism. lol

You confuse my deductive reasoning with racism, when we can clearly see through statistics why my beliefs about the majority of blacks voting for democrats because their stance on welfare. That is a completely different argument from why I have such a disdain for welfare. Once more, I was talking about people on welfare and not just the blacks on welfare. I'm done arguing with you on this, it's reach a point where it doesn't even matter who is right, it's just plain redundant.


I've had discussions with many people of many different ideologies, never have I had someone that strewed an argument till it was turned into something way out of context.

Sorry guys for bumping thread to reply to this.. Gonna look into a block from XemnasXD lol

Do you have statistics that show the % of black people who voted for Obama that are on welfare? Any Democratic candidate? No. Your deductive reasoning is just a fancy way of saying IMO. And IMO is not statistical information last time i checked.

How you can compare anything you've said in this thread without posting a single link or a citation to a reputable source with statistical information is beyond ridiculous.

You idiot.

Q: Why do black people vote democrat?
A: Welfare.


that is racism. It completely ignores the many other reason why a minority, specifically black people, would vote for democrats. On top of that it asserts that black people like being on welfare, something you cannot possibly confirm as there is no group of studies that could to back this up. This answer is not data. It is not the conclusion of a long review of information on the subject. It is your opinion. Your opinion is a racist opinion. You are a racist. You are automatically grouping a large number of people in a negative light based on no credible information. It's bigoted. It's prejudice. It is completely different from pointing out the very well known statistical data on race/gender and STDs which from the sounds of it was probably being used improperly because even if it said X race had higher rates of X there are still a huge number of statical variables that may not even apply to an X person living in X.

Just because someone cites a statistic doesn't mean they are using that information correctly. In most cases the average person well simply look at the numbers and reach whatever conclusion they want because statistics do not tell a story by themselves. They need context to be relevant which is why they are often posted with research information.

But you don't have statistics. You don't have anything but yourself.


and you are an absolute and complete idiot.

This whole topic is racist about coloured people,"Black people do this, do that" WTF is going on, Moderators need to stop this topic now. Doesnt matter if your Coloured, White, Chinese, Indian we are all the same, we breath the same, hurt the same. So stop this racism now..

Thread isnt racist.