American Idol SCREAMO -- Rejected! LOL

[SD]Master_Wong · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:48 am

hardcore is a genre i think iv known it as a genre so until someone tels me otherwise il accept it as, but i do know what that music sounds like and if your telling me everything i grew up to know as a sub catagory of metal is actually something totally different and new then WTF

You must seriously have a warped sense of hearing, you go look up the sub genres of metal and i wager £50 that all this 'screamo' music fits in perfectly to one or more genres (saying 1+ as some artists do sway sometimes)

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

I listen to random songs that sound nice, and that screamo shit doesn't tickle my fancy.

.curve · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:01 am

[SD]Master_Wong wrote:

hardcore is a genre i think iv known it as a genre so until someone tels me otherwise il accept it as, but i do know what that music sounds like and if your telling me everything i grew up to know as a sub catagory of metal is actually something totally different and new then WTF

You must seriously have a warped sense of hearing, you go look up the sub genres of metal and i wager £50 that all this 'screamo' music fits in perfectly to one or more genres (saying 1+ as some artists do sway sometimes)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-hardcore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_rock

Enjoy. Post hardcore originated from hardcore punk which originated from Punk Rock. Nowhere in there do they mention Metal. Thank you bye.

[SD]Master_Wong · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:08 am

hold on a sec neither do you mention screamo so stfu, if i was on about hardcore id say hardcore, get it

all you have done to prove is **** all, metal came from punk, rock (classic) originated from folk, i would assume without looking the rock one up i wouldnt know for sure but i honestly fail to see your point

read your links wiki isnt 100% correct, you must remember its done by the masses so if something such as emo/screamo becomes a popular term regardles of whether its right or wrong it will be added, although on many points mass contribution works it also has its flaws and until otherwise proven wrong i will firmly stand my ground

.curve · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:25 am

Quote:

gen⋅re
adjective
–noun
1. a class or category of artistic endeavor having a particular form, content, technique, or the like: the genre of epic poetry; the genre of symphonic music.

Hmmm...post-hardcore isn't a genre?

Screamo is the slang term for post-hardcore. Of course you're going to say mass contribution is flawed, because it's saying that your stance is wrong.

And for kicks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamo
Can you please read for me that first line?

[SD]Master_Wong · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:52 am

il do better il quote it and explain why its wrong

Quote:

Screamo is a genre of music which predominantly evolved from hardcore punk, among other genres, in the early 1990s.

among other genres

screamo is not and will never be considered a true genre, emo either.

why you may ask because until i hear something new they sound exactly the same (key points oblivously not the entire sound as that would make songs boring) as a genre that has likly been out longer.

yeh your arguing and i dont care bands like avenged sevenfold and trivium are not screamo, lost prophets are not screamo and i can go on.

rumpleKillskin · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1934 **Location:**

Scremo is horrible. Nothing more, nothing less. Screaming in a mic because you don't have the talent to sing normally is just sad. Also, for the person who tried defending scremo with the attack on mainstream songs and bands, no. I rather listen to music that has a meaning than a song that consists of yelling that you can barley understand, and lyrics that aren't always unique. My 2 cents.

However music is becoming more for the profit, and less for the love of the music.

Squirt · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 8186 **Location:**

They should have let him in, the ratings would have been lols

iSinnnn · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:09 am

rumpleKillskin wrote:

Scremo is horrible. Nothing more, nothing less. Screaming in a mic because you don't have the talent to sing normally is just sad. Also, for the person who tried defending scremo with the attack on mainstream songs and bands, no. I rather listen to music that has a meaning than a song that consists of yelling that you can barley understand, and lyrics that aren't always unique. My 2 cents.

However music is becoming more for the profit, and less for the love of the music.

WOW. That might be the dumbest post I've ever seen while reading these boards. For starters, "Screamo" isn't the only genre or sub-genre with screaming involved. Get your facts straight. Second, you want to talk talent? Umm, you try screaming like those guys. I bet you can't even get close. It takes a lotttt of practice. Songs don't have meaning? lol. Just lol, what kind of bullshit bands have you been listening to in order to come up with that one? I listen to plenty of bands with a screamer and all of their lyrics do mean something.

Post-Hardcore is where it's at anyways. And before I get jumped by the guy who likes calling everything metal, I don't care. I'm not one to be vague with my genre's, so I use subs. After all, it's what they were made for. Slang or not, I really don't care.

Kirkaldi · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 3083 **Location:** nyc

He has problems. :wink:

[SD]Master_Wong · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:26 am

iSinnnn wrote:

rumpleKillskin wrote:

Scremo is horrible. Nothing more, nothing less. Screaming in a mic because you don't have the talent to sing normally is just sad. Also, for the person who tried defending scremo with the attack on mainstream songs and bands, no. I rather listen to music that has a meaning than a song that consists of yelling that you can barley understand, and lyrics that aren't always unique. My 2 cents.

However music is becoming more for the profit, and less for the love of the music.

WOW. That might be the dumbest post I've ever seen while reading these boards. For starters, "Screamo" isn't the only genre or sub-genre with screaming involved. Get your facts straight. Second, you want to talk talent? Umm, you try screaming like those guys. I bet you can't even get close. It takes a lotttt of practice. Songs don't have meaning? lol. Just lol, what kind of bullshit bands have you been listening to in order to come up with that one? I listen to plenty of bands with a screamer and all of their lyrics do mean something.

Post-Hardcore is where it's at anyways. And before I get jumped by the guy who likes calling everything metal, I don't care. I'm not one to be vague with my genre's, so I use subs. After all, it's what they were made for. Slang or not, I really don't care.

ok il make it short, screamo = other genre with different name, which weird sounds a lot like some softer metal, wow isnt that weird?

.curve · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:31 am

What is with your fetish with calling everything metal? Screamo is screamo. Post hardcore is post hardcore. Each are their own genre.

[SD]Master_Wong · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:35 am

because screamo and emo may at one point been a seperate genre but now due to the culture has been assoiated with songs and bands that are not part of either genre, and everything metal quit coping other peoples points against me because correct me if im wrong iv only said one thing is metal and thats the thing in discussion.

but go on carry on arguing it but until they sound different enough to be put in a seperate genre they should and imo do belong in other genres

so go on link me a screamo song that isnt like metal albiet relativly soft metal but non the less metal

Bop · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1130 **Location:**

ilold...ppl just like being the outcast in society...

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

Screamo, hardcore, post hardcore, metalcore... I don't care what you call it, I file it all under "shit music."

It does not take talent to scream like the dub in that American Idol video, and it sounds like balls when people do it in their music.

iSinnnn · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:27 am

Reise wrote:

Screamo, hardcore, post hardcore, metalcore... I don't care what you call it, I file it all under "shit music."

It does not take talent to scream like the dub in that American Idol video, and it sounds like balls when people do it in their music.

Who said like the guy in the video? And cool, except your opinion won't stop me or anyone else from liking whatever kind of music they like. Nice to know where you stand.. I guess.

Emphasis on the not caring part by the way master_wong. I fail to see why it matters what I or anyone else calls it.

DeepEvil · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:49 am

Hi

i appreciate everyone's personal thought about this video or about the aspect of screamo being a sub genre or just a genre, but i only had a laugh from the video since i knew he sucked

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

iSinnnn wrote:

Who said like the guy in the video?

I honestly can't tell the difference between the actual band and the idiot in the Idol contest. They both sound like crap. Maybe I should just change my post to say both videos?

iSinnnn wrote:

And cool, except your opinion won't stop me or anyone else from liking whatever kind of music they like. Nice to know where you stand.. I guess.

Hey, they call it an Off Topic forum for a reason.

iSinnnn wrote:

Emphasis on the not caring part by the way master_wong. I fail to see why it matters what I or anyone else calls it.

Like I said it doesn't matter to me, I already have it categorized.

.curve · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:21 am

Reise wrote:

Like I said it doesn't matter to me, I already have it categorized.

Holy shit that's ironic! I already have it categorized too, and your categorization doesn't matter to me. What a concept. And seeing as how it's categorized is an opinion, you(master_wong) can't tell me mine is wrong. Especially since I've now posted links supporting my claims.

MrTwilliger · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 1374 **Location:** Hiding

Who cares if its classified as a genre or not? Either way its still the same song, who seriously gives a shit.

Also screaming can be good, depending on how its done. Some of the avenged albums do it pretty well ( waken the fallen for example ) and kalmah have a nice scream, not too over the top. Gonna say though, that guy wasn't to my liking.

.curve · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:44 am

MrTwilliger wrote:

Who cares if its classified as a genre or not? Either way its still the same song, who seriously gives a shit.

Also screaming can be good, depending on how its done. Some of the avenged albums do it pretty well ( waken the fallen for example ) and kalmah have a nice scream, not too over the top. Gonna say though, that guy wasn't to my liking.

Avenged Sevenfold was good on Waken the Fallen and earlier. That guy is a poor example of the genre though.

Melez · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:59 pm

iSinnnn wrote:

rumpleKillskin wrote:

Scremo is horrible. Nothing more, nothing less. Screaming in a mic because you don't have the talent to sing normally is just sad. Also, for the person who tried defending scremo with the attack on mainstream songs and bands, no. I rather listen to music that has a meaning than a song that consists of yelling that you can barley understand, and lyrics that aren't always unique. My 2 cents.

However music is becoming more for the profit, and less for the love of the music.

WOW. That might be the dumbest post I've ever seen while reading these boards. For starters, "Screamo" isn't the only genre or sub-genre with screaming involved. Get your facts straight. Second, you want to talk talent? Umm, you try screaming like those guys. I bet you can't even get close. It takes a lotttt of practice. Songs don't have meaning? lol. Just lol, what kind of bullshit bands have you been listening to in order to come up with that one? I listen to plenty of bands with a screamer and all of their lyrics do mean something.

Post-Hardcore is where it's at anyways. And before I get jumped by the guy who likes calling everything metal, I don't care. I'm not one to be vague with my genre's, so I use subs. After all, it's what they were made for. Slang or not, I really don't care.

I'm sorry, but I laughed a bit.

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

Reise wrote:

It does not take talent to scream like the dub in that American Idol video, and it sounds like balls when people do it in their music.

Just wanna say, it DOES take talent to be able to keep that up for 3 minutes. Good reference would be CHester from Linkin Park. That guy has a Farking amazing vocal stamina.

Anyways, lol @ the youtube comments and lol @ people here QQ'ing cause of how one thinks of a music style.

I do have to add though that these American Idol contests are quite shit. All the are looking for for mthe start is some good-looking sweat-talking teenage girl. Which is quite sad

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

.curve wrote:

Reise wrote:

Like I said it doesn't matter to me, I already have it categorized.

Holy shit that's ironic! I already have it categorized too, and your categorization doesn't matter to me. What a concept. And seeing as how it's categorized is an opinion, you(master_wong) can't tell me mine is wrong. Especially since I've now posted links supporting my claims.

Dude if you're talking to Master Wong, don't quote me.

[SD]Master_Wong · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:51 pm

im merly arging as people wrong clasify many bands in which i like as emo or screamo when i know they are not, if someone actually linked me a true emo/screamo song and i seen the difference i would shut up

.curve · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:01 pm

Reise wrote:

.curve wrote:

Reise wrote:

Like I said it doesn't matter to me, I already have it categorized.

Holy shit that's ironic! I already have it categorized too, and your categorization doesn't matter to me. What a concept. And seeing as how it's categorized is an opinion, you(master_wong) can't tell me mine is wrong. Especially since I've now posted links supporting my claims.

Dude if you're talking to Master Wong, don't quote me.

I was talking to you too.

[SD]Master_Wong wrote:

im merly arging as people wrong clasify many bands in which i like as emo or screamo when i know they are not, if someone actually linked me a true emo/screamo song and i seen the difference i would shut up

What makes it a "true" emo/screamo song?

[SD]Master_Wong · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:22 pm

.curve wrote:

[SD]Master_Wong wrote:

im merly arging as people wrong clasify many bands in which i like as emo or screamo when i know they are not, if someone actually linked me a true emo/screamo song and i seen the difference i would shut up

What makes it a "true" emo/screamo song?

but i do know it CANNOT be a true emo/screamo song if i already know that z band is of a diffrent genre see my point

now my reasoning behind assuming screamo is classified under the metal genre as all the songs i have heard thus far have heavy ties in that genre and it is reasonable to think wtf thats no different

MonstaH · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 1550 **Location:**

Reminds me of this guy at the german version of Pop Idol...

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"Cannibal Corpse - I will kill you"

And yes, those casting shows suck...

Snoopy · **Posted:** Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:29 pm

iSinnnn wrote:

rumpleKillskin wrote:

Scremo is horrible. Nothing more, nothing less. Screaming in a mic because you don't have the talent to sing normally is just sad. Also, for the person who tried defending scremo with the attack on mainstream songs and bands, no. I rather listen to music that has a meaning than a song that consists of yelling that you can barley understand, and lyrics that aren't always unique. My 2 cents.

However music is becoming more for the profit, and less for the love of the music.

WOW. That might be the dumbest post I've ever seen while reading these boards. For starters, "Screamo" isn't the only genre or sub-genre with screaming involved. Get your facts straight. Second, you want to talk talent? Umm, you try screaming like those guys. I bet you can't even get close. It takes a lotttt of practice. Songs don't have meaning? lol. Just lol, what kind of bullshit bands have you been listening to in order to come up with that one? I listen to plenty of bands with a screamer and all of their lyrics do mean something.

Post-Hardcore is where it's at anyways. And before I get jumped by the guy who likes calling everything metal, I don't care. I'm not one to be vague with my genre's, so I use subs. After all, it's what they were made for. Slang or not, I really don't care.

You see... there's talented and there's talented. Screaming into a mic doesn't require talent, although not everyone can do it. That would make it original or just hard to do. Not everyone is going to like screamo, no everyone is going to like RnB. Screamo might have meaning, the only way to find it (or understand them for that fact) would be to look up their lyrics on the internet.

Just my opinion

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

lol @ the Cannibal Corpse one.

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