Post subject: Re: My Name Is Khan , and i'm not a terrorist
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 7:55 pm
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asusi wrote:
antics wrote:
asusi wrote:
But can you proof that there is no god? Can you?
can you prove there is a god?
so wait the movie already came out?
to be clear: The scientist have examined this subject over 30 years and, could not prove that there is NO God, they got only "theory" and no hard evidence. I can prove, cause i believe in God, think again.
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see im not even actually arguing the existance of a god, and look what you did.
also, your entire response proves my point. its very clear that you didnt actually READ what i WROTE you simply skimmed it and judged it to be anti-YOU. good luck with that public image.
Nice trollin' cell
No hard evidence, because it is too blatantly RIDICULOUS. You believe, so it's true? I believe in an invisible pink unicorn that lives underwater, but it's only there because I believe, and when I look, it can't disappear, and if scientists do tests and it shows to not be true, the unicorn emits an aura that makes it look like it isn't there. It also created the world and had a son who died for people's sins, and came back as a zombie
But seriously. The idea of a god has COUNTLESS theoretical flaws. If you want me to disprove god, and religion, with 100% certainty (I researched etc.) pm me. Also, god is a theory because it can't be proven, and it has THEORETICAL flaws, so god doesn't exist?
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Post subject: Re: My Name Is Khan , and i'm not a terrorist
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:01 pm
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heroo wrote:
People who think that all muslims are terrorists, are retarted. Luckily I haven't met alot of those people.
If people only knew the true meaning of the Islam, it would've saved us so much shit
I don't think that at all. But I do think 99% of all terrorists are muslims, correct? It's like this, all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are square. I actually 100% agree with cell, the radicals ruin the religion of Islam, and distort so many people's views of it, and the peace loving, modernized muslims (all of you fundamentalist muslims have to rethink your entire life, not racism, but true, there is a thing called human rights now) should, as Cell put perfectly, take a stand to these radical muslims, and teach and educate the young people, and make them against these terrible standards that these terrorists live by.
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Post subject: Re: My Name Is Khan , and i'm not a terrorist
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 9:13 pm
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Wow, this is Bollywood, so its an India movie, Indian isn't an Islamic country, there are many muslims there but the majority are Hindu and Buddhist. Also its already out ^^ don't remember who asked if it was out.
Post subject: Re: My Name Is Khan , and i'm not a terrorist
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 10:24 pm
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ofy1993 wrote:
antics wrote:
can you prove there is a god?
İki parmağının ucunu gözüne koy. Bir şey görebiliyor musun dünyadan? Sen göremiyorsun diye bu alem yok değildir. - Mowlānā Jalāl ad-Dīn Muḥammad Balkhī
Translation:
"Put the tip of your two fingers on your eyes. Do you see anything from the world? Just because you can not see it, does not make the universe not there."
I'm not saying your lack of visual contact with him prooves his existence, but you clearly can't deny his existence just cause you "can't see him". With that one quote people can with ignorance suggest the existence of hundreds of things, with no empiracal nor tangiable evidence to back it up at all.
At asusi: lol. Chill. Cell's making a point.
BackOnT: I'll def. see the movie. Hopefully the life of a true Muslim is portrayed well in it.
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p.s: But can you proof that there is no god? Can you?
I don't even know why that is a valid agruement for the existence of god.
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to be clear: The scientist have examined this subject over 30 years and, could not prove that there is NO God, they got only "theory" and no hard evidence. I can prove, cause i believe in God, think again.
Belief or faith is not a valid answer/reason for anything especially for the existence of some omnipotent being.
Post subject: Re: My Name Is Khan , and i'm not a terrorist
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 10:58 pm
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CeLL wrote:
asusi wrote:
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Let me answer your question with a couple of my own. What did (non christian) people think of christianity during the time of the inquisition? What do people think now of catholocism with the excess of pedophelia? And finally what would be the common response (not a more mature response from someone like ofy) from a muslim if I said your god isnt real or your religion is wrong? Society tends to take things at face value. Islam doesn’t need to change its beliefs, but if they don’t want to be viewed as society tends to view them, there has to be a house cleaning from the inside first. The genuine peace loving muslims need to take a stand against the radical heretics. Then and only then will society as a whole have respect for islam. Cause guess what, when we try to stand against them, we tend to receive more opposition than genuine cooperation.
You see, you're just being an hypocrite + egoist. You say "they" well buddy i am Muslim and i don't have problems with people no religion or other religion then mine, i had so many conversations about that with people about this religion issue. Don't get Religion mixed with the people, cause every men uses hes religion hes own way. I feel neutral about religion. p.s: But can you proof that there is no god? Can you?
see im not even actually arguing the existance of a god, and look what you did.
also, your entire response proves my point. its very clear that you didnt actually READ what i WROTE you simply skimmed it and judged it to be anti-YOU. good luck with that public image.
As much as I hate to admit it, CeLL just proved his point. Except that it seems it's not just the radical heretics, but the conservatives and nationalists.
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Post subject: Re: My Name Is Khan , and i'm not a terrorist
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:32 am
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xzaz wrote:
"is this really how people think of islam ??" Beter: Does the Islamic community proof otherwise?
Yes,several times has the muslim "community" told the world that those acts of terrorism are from extremist. But I guess person's like you just ignore it and would rather put every muslim in the same bag Thats like saying all Christians(or was it Catholics?) rape kids.
Post subject: Re: My Name Is Khan , and i'm not a terrorist
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:41 am
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dom wrote:
As much as I hate to admit it, CeLL just proved his point. Except that it seems it's not just the radical heretics, but the conservatives and nationalists.
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Post subject: Re: My Name Is Khan , and i'm not a terrorist
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:42 am
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i am a proud Muslim i read about Judaism and Christianity.. after i read both i felt better about Islam. and 100% positive all the people who talks about Islam haven't read about it. at Europe now a lot of people converting to Muslims (notice : media is against Islam 100% ). i learned that before i judge some thing i learn and read about it then i judge it. go on post what ever question you want about Islam or even if some thing u heard i will be more happy to answer it?
Post subject: Re: My Name Is Khan , and i'm not a terrorist
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:12 am
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McLovin1t wrote:
heroo wrote:
People who think that all muslims are terrorists, are retarted. Luckily I haven't met alot of those people.
If people only knew the true meaning of the Islam, it would've saved us so much shit
I don't think that at all. But I do think 99% of all terrorists are muslims, correct? It's like this, all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are square. I actually 100% agree with cell, the radicals ruin the religion of Islam, and distort so many people's views of it, and the peace loving, modernized muslims (all of you fundamentalist muslims have to rethink your entire life, not racism, but true, there is a thing called human rights now) should, as Cell put perfectly, take a stand to these radical muslims, and teach and educate the young people, and make them against these terrible standards that these terrorists live by.
99% it's just an estimation from you , terrorists are in everywhere .. do a 5 min research and you'll find out that you're wrong
also , if some muslim peoples are terrorists , this doesn't give you the right to judge others as terrorists because they have the same religion , this is pure racism also young muslims doesn't need to learn anything , as they grow up in a normal and peacfull society there's no need for this terrorism lessons , the ones that need to learn is you -people in foreign countries- need to learn about islam , not to join it but to respect it
and for other guys who is discussing the existence of god , it's not our subject , the problem isn't about faith , it's about racial discrimination , if your name is mohamed you'll find someone who will call you terrorist even if you don't believe in god
Post subject: Re: My Name Is Khan , and i'm not a terrorist
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:20 am
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K.K wrote:
McLovin1t wrote:
heroo wrote:
People who think that all muslims are terrorists, are retarted. Luckily I haven't met alot of those people.
If people only knew the true meaning of the Islam, it would've saved us so much shit
I don't think that at all. But I do think 99% of all terrorists are muslims, correct? It's like this, all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are square. I actually 100% agree with cell, the radicals ruin the religion of Islam, and distort so many people's views of it, and the peace loving, modernized muslims (all of you fundamentalist muslims have to rethink your entire life, not racism, but true, there is a thing called human rights now) should, as Cell put perfectly, take a stand to these radical muslims, and teach and educate the young people, and make them against these terrible standards that these terrorists live by.
99% it's just an estimation from you , terrorists are in everywhere .. do a 5 min research and you'll find out that you're wrong
also , if some muslim peoples are terrorists , this doesn't give you the right to judge others as terrorists because they have the same religion , this is pure racism also young muslims doesn't need to learn anything , as they grow up in a normal and peacfull society there's no need for this terrorism lessons , the ones that need to learn is you -people in foreign countries- need to learn about islam , not to join it but to respect it
and for other guys who is discussing the existence of god , it's not our subject , the problem isn't about faith , it's about racial discrimination , if your name is mohamed you'll find someone who will call you terrorist even if you don't believe in god
+1
lawlz it's exactly the same if you said all Christians are pedophiles just cause of some people did some thing stupid..
Post subject: Re: My Name Is Khan , and i'm not a terrorist
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:30 pm
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ZaKnighT wrote:
i am a proud Muslim i read about Judaism and Christianity.. after i read both i felt better about Islam. and 100% positive all the people who talks about Islam haven't read about it. at Europe now a lot of people converting to Muslims (notice : media is against Islam 100% ). i learned that before i judge some thing i learn and read about it then i judge it. go on post what ever question you want about Islam or even if some thing u heard i will be more happy to answer it?
Nothing against Islam, but you don't have to be Islamic to know that in order to make a viable judgment, you should read and learn about what you are judging. That's common knowledge.
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