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What if your daughter said I never wanted to be alive why did you force me to would you be able to reply?


"it is selfish because you hurt all those that love you, only because you think you can not handle your problems anymore and you choose the easy way. I would never do such a thing to my family and loved ones. Killing myself won't only ruin my own life, but also their lifes."
I am telling you they are selfish for being hurt when you die it isn't because someone can't handle the problems it is because he didn't ask t exist .

That is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.

so your saying you would go ahead and let your daughter kill herself?

Yes you do parents create their children without their consent don't they?



If I had a daughter and she didn't want to be born then yes because I don't know that living is better for her.

Cause you totally can get the consent of someone that isn't even living. I totally see your point. /sarcasm

Put in /sarcasm cause I'm pretty sure you're too stupid to see the sarcasm in my post.

You can't therefore you it is unjustified to say to a person don't kill yourself because you don't know if he wanted to exist in the first place or not
also since you can't society has A DUTY to help someone who they figured out that he doesnt want to live kill himself in a painless way because they cursed him with life without his permission

*Is trying to figure out if this is a troll topic, or if TC is just that stupid.*

Your stupidity limits your mind to two choices how pitiful.

At least I don't think that inflicting extra potential anguish, and otherwise other hardships on people that'd be affected by my own suicide, is an ok thing. People who commit suicide, are cowards that can't get help for themselves and think that their lives are the worst ever.

Anyone who thinks suicide is an ok way out is an idiot.

Why do you say that they are cowards. You keep assuming that living is a good thing for everyone I think that even if your life is good you have the right to suicide maybe you aren't content with the state of being alive?

If you're going to point out that I called them cowards, you could at least use it in the context I did.

Meaning, that anyone that thinks suicide is ok, have problems in their mind that they wont acknowledge, and they need help from a psychiatrist.

It is the same context they don't want help and they don't need it.I mean someone can choose to kill himself because he thinks living is worthless and that should be a civil right just because life has a worth to us it doesn't mean that it has to be the same for others.
What gives you the right to say that living is better than not existing?

Really, are you serious? Well, It Sounds pretty freaky!

If she really doesnt want to live but is forced to then she will suffer for 70 years + but if she can get a painless death she can avoid the suffering.

The problem with this entire argument hinges on the one piece of information that we will never know: what's death like?

I won't bother replying to the majority of the arguments here, in the end everyone is entitled to their opinions. But one thing no one has brought up, to my surprise, is that we haven't questioned what death is like. Your main argument is that when someone decides that their life is too "negative" to continue living, they choose to die to escape it. But how do we know death is an escape? Simple matter of fact is, we don't. For all we know when we die we could be spiritually reliving our death for eternity. Maybe anyone who commits suicide gets a punishment that's worth than their life or maybe when we die there's simply nothing. We just don't know. And if we don't know the exact nature of death, how can we say it's better than life?

She may change her mind!

There would be no human race if we thought like you, seriously dude?

Yes she may but you are saying it like life is a very big happy thing. What exactly would she gain by being alive.You can't know that living is better than dying and like the guy before you said we don't know what death is like so it could be worse than living so it should be up to the person whether to take the risk maybe those who suicide go to a better world?


Umm no if you thought like I did only those who want to live will live and those who dont wont simple right?

But since you can't ask permission to have a baby which means no babies will be born -> human race will be extinct?

Well my point wasn't that you have to ask for permission it was that you didn't you can't say they have to live Because it isn't something they agreed to do. If you could ask for permission then you can say well deal is a deal you wanted to live so you cant kill yourself but that is impossible

Of course I would be able to reply to her, because I love her. Besides... I'm not going to talk down to you because obviously you see yourself at rock bottom already... but if you've ever been around kids you'll know they throw tantrums and say things like that, you just have to be a parent and explain to them how things are. I see you're lost and don't have anyone to talk to about the way you feel (this is why you're posting it on a forum.) so you're just going to keep thinking you're right until one day you end up killing yourself. Now if you get the chance to grow up and realize this is just a phase of your life and nothing is as bad as it seems, you'll be able to enjoy life.

Also I believe the fact that you haven't really had it too hard in your life, you can't really see what having it good means. (You can't know happiness if you've never known what it is to be sad.)

I don't know if death is greater than life, but sure I know how life feels. Meh... I'm not death

Maybe not?

I DON'T WANT TO KILL MYSELF.I love life that isn't the point I am saying people should have the right to kill themselves how many times should I repeat that I actually don't want to die so I hope that our souls are really immortal ...



since you don't know it shouldnt be your choice it must be the person's

You have to take your family/friends well being in consideration. Often enough suiciders fuck up the people they loved so yes it's their own choice but no it shouldn't be accepted.

if your life was crap would you want to kill yourself? you love your life so why are you saying people should be able to kill themselves......

life is a privilege not a right. no one has the right to live but we are the LUCKY ones to be living. if you take your life because its crap then your basically spitting on the lives (or spirits or what ever you call the people of the unborn) of the people who have not been born. people who probably would of loved their life too.

People live to die. Suicide just because you can't handle certain things(depression) is NOT acceptable. Suicide is acceptable within certain parameters, 1) your a vegetable. 2) you are or will die soon regardless 3) any other medical reasons that seems fit.

Watch "You Don't Know Jack", great movie about suicide.

@madah123 : So in conclusion, what do you want. And what do you mean by "accept" ? Not crying when a relative suicide...?

privilege ? Can you prove to me that being alive is always a good thing?


the gov should try to discover painless way for suicide and fund it themselves and help others who wants to do it

you tell me your the one that loves your life.