A post-mortem examination later revealed that Aziz suffered from a previously undiagnosed congenital heart defect,[4] and that he had shown several minor symptoms in the few months leading up to August, including high blood pressure and occasional shortness of breath. He also had a family history of heart problems.[4]
I don't buy the whole undiagnosed heart defect thing.
High blood pressure at a young age is not normal and combine that with the occasional shortness of breath and the family history of cardiac diseases and a mom who's a cardiologist (or at least works with them). And yet the condition was undiagnosed?
A post-mortem examination later revealed that Aziz suffered from a previously undiagnosed congenital heart defect,[4] and that he had shown several minor symptoms in the few months leading up to August, including high blood pressure and occasional shortness of breath. He also had a family history of heart problems.[4]
I don't buy the whole undiagnosed heart defect thing.
High blood pressure at a young age is not normal and combine that with the occasional shortness of breath and the family history of cardiac diseases and a mom who's a cardiologist (or at least works with them). And yet the condition was undiagnosed?
Exactly my point on the previous page.
It makes no sense WHAT SO EVER :S
I think either A) He's trolling although that's a pretty sick move, or B) Drugs?
My friend also said something about him possibly trolling, i mean the video is filled with troll-alike words and writing, in fact it contains more trolling than actual normal speaking. They troll the mcdonalds employees >_>
That video was put together waaaay before his death. Yes, it was meant to be a troll video. I wouldn't doubt drugs may have contributed to his death... he was in freaking Thailand... not hard to get anything you desire.
I'm pretty sure there was a funeral in Aussieland that several misc'ers went to.
He really seems like an unbelievable douche to me. Can't say I'm sorry for his death (sorry).
Your IQ is equal to my shoe, and i will explain my self why i think so; I find it really clever that you can judge a person for hes video's (that he made to piss of people on web). Seriously how can you say that if you don't even know him in real life? Maybe he is really kind?
He really seems like an unbelievable douche to me. Can't say I'm sorry for his death (sorry).
Your IQ is equal to my shoe, and i will explain my self why i think so; I find it really clever that you can judge a person for hes video's (that he made to piss of people on web). Seriously how can you say that if you don't even know him in real life? Maybe he is really kind?
Shame on you ltsune for saying this.
Then why are you posting the video to explain something about him, if this is not how he really is?
Of course I can't know how he is, but judging by his reactions and what he do in the video, I can surely say that he is sick of attention. Else he wouldn't do as he does. And seriously, I have just gotten enough of those attention whores.
I know my comment was going to make some people mad. Actually that was why I posted as I did, to hopefully better understand why some people even care for this guy. I mean, you don't even know him yourself?
He really seems like an unbelievable douche to me. Can't say I'm sorry for his death (sorry).
Your IQ is equal to my shoe, and i will explain my self why i think so; I find it really clever that you can judge a person for hes video's (that he made to piss of people on web). Seriously how can you say that if you don't even know him in real life? Maybe he is really kind?
Shame on you ltsune for saying this.
Then why are you posting the video to explain something about him, if this is not how he really is?
Of course I can't know how he is, but judging by his reactions and what he do in the video, I can surely say that he is sick of attention. Else he wouldn't do as he does. And seriously, I have just gotten enough of those attention whores.
I know my comment was going to make some people mad. Actually that was why I posted as I did, to hopefully better understand why some people even care for this guy. I mean, you don't even know him yourself?
Yes maybe he is douche bag, yes he wants attention (guess what? he gets it) anywise this guy accomplished things that he wanted, thats the story behind this guy, who used to be a WoW nerd.
BTW I'm not gonna argue with you, cause you just made your point. Don't judge people if you don't know anything about them, cause you make your self look like fool
Then why are you posting the video to explain something about him, if this is not how he really is?
Of course I can't know how he is, but judging by his reactions and what he do in the video, I can surely say that he is sick of attention. Else he wouldn't do as he does. And seriously, I have just gotten enough of those attention whores.
I know my comment was going to make some people mad. Actually that was why I posted as I did, to hopefully better understand why some people even care for this guy. I mean, you don't even know him yourself?
Yes maybe he is douche bag, yes he wants attention (guess what? he gets it) anywise this guy accomplished things that he wanted, thats the story behind this guy, who used to be a WoW nerd.
BTW I'm not gonna argue with you, cause you just made your point. Don't judge people if you don't know anything about them, cause you make your self look like fool
Great to know.
And yeah, I know. I would hate the guy who posted what I just did as well (if it was posted by someone else). But as I said, sometimes its best to irritate people to start a discussion, if you want to know what they really think about the subject.
I'm sorry if it somehow hurt somebody - wasn't meant like that.
IQ equal to a shoe. Hmmm...interesting. Moving on:
People will have a tendency to judge others based on what they observe. No, I don't think it's a reliable way to actually know someone but that goes for everyone you interact with in life; you will make your judgment about someone's character based on what you can observe. Itsune's statement reflects on his/her fair assessment of the guy's actions. If someone gets up to me and starts acting like a douchebag for no reason (at least not to my knowledge), I'm not going to think to myself "Oh, he might be doing it for the lulz. He's probably a good down-to-earth guy deep inside"; No - what regular people would assume is "Holy shit this guy is an absolute douchebag!"
IQ equal to a shoe. Hmmm...interesting. Moving on:
People will have a tendency to judge others based on what they observe. No, I don't think it's a reliable way to actually know someone but that goes for everyone you interact with in life; you will make your judgment about someone's character based on what you can observe. Itsune's statement reflects on his/her fair assessment of the guy's actions. If someone gets up to me and starts acting like a douchebag for no reason (at least not to my knowledge), I'm not going to think to myself "Oh, he might be doing it for the lulz. He's probably a good down-to-earth guy deep inside"; No - what regular people would assume is "Holy shit this guy is an absolute douchebag!"
+1.
I totally agree - I'm very sure that you, asusi, didn't know this guy in real life.. You are basing your theories on what you read / saw, and so is ltsune. I don't know why you flame his post when hes just sayin what he sees.
IQ equal to a shoe. Hmmm...interesting. Moving on:
People will have a tendency to judge others based on what they observe. No, I don't think it's a reliable way to actually know someone but that goes for everyone you interact with in life; you will make your judgment about someone's character based on what you can observe. Itsune's statement reflects on his/her fair assessment of the guy's actions. If someone gets up to me and starts acting like a douchebag for no reason (at least not to my knowledge), I'm not going to think to myself "Oh, he might be doing it for the lulz. He's probably a good down-to-earth guy deep inside"; No - what regular people would assume is "Holy shit this guy is an absolute douchebag!"
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Hmm...Not to gloat over the guy's death but I don't get the hype over this man.
So his dream was to turn his life around by transforming from being a skinny white basement white nerd to a humongous self-absorbed douchebag-looking bodybuilder? He looks like a blender mix of a Jersey Shore guido and an emo kid. Based on his little asshole-ish adventures in that video, I'd say a few people, namely those people at the ice cream place, would be glad he's gone.
I work with a guy who is pretty inspired by Zyzz actually. Not for his trolling, but rather to message that anyone can do this sort of feat, even if you are stick thin to begin with. I think it's pretty nice, truth be told.
As far as the heart attack goes, I can see it being plausible. Considering the massive amount of stress that he puts on his body and the amount of steroids and other substances he could of taken, I wouldn't be surprised if his heart just gave in.
I work with a guy who is pretty inspired by Zyzz actually. Not for his trolling, but rather to message that anyone can do this sort of feat, even if you are stick thin to begin with. I think it's pretty nice, truth be told.
As far as the heart attack goes, I can see it being plausible. Considering the massive amount of stress that he puts on his body and the amount of steroids and other substances he could of taken, I wouldn't be surprised if his heart just gave in.
R.I.P
The heart attack is plausible, the fact that the condition was undiagnosed with whatever info we have received however is not in the least bit logical.
I work with a guy who is pretty inspired by Zyzz actually. Not for his trolling, but rather to message that anyone can do this sort of feat, even if you are stick thin to begin with. I think it's pretty nice, truth be told.
As far as the heart attack goes, I can see it being plausible. Considering the massive amount of stress that he puts on his body and the amount of steroids and other substances he could of taken, I wouldn't be surprised if his heart just gave in.
R.I.P
The heart attack is plausible, the fact that the condition was undiagnosed with whatever info we have received however is not in the least bit logical.
The information was obtained from collateral history retrospectively, and it's fairly easy to raise suspicion that he may have an impending fatal heart condition, especially for anyone who may recognize those symptoms. However, the failure to diagnose doesn't come from not knowing, but often due to not looking. Plus, clinicians are trained to think of common things first rather than rare complications.
For a 22 year old Australian, shortness of breath might be choking, (exercise induced) asthma, pneumonia, pneumothorax, all the common things. In the absence of other symptoms, congenital heard disease if symptomatic, should appear much earlier. High blood pressure for a young adult isn't uncommon, but it is only something you would only know if it was measured. This part is unclear, and I would have to say that at some point he did seek medical advice for some reason, for them to know that he had high blood pressure.
If anything good that should come out of this, is that you should look after yourself, get checked before delving into body building, and tell your parents you love them cause we'll never know when we're next to go.
And now he's dead.. Maybe should've cared about the steroids after all? Well, R.I.P anyways!
You got point, but thing is i know people who use it already 20 years and NP... Steorids are bitch that's true, it depends if your heart can handle the pressure, still every sport has it's dangers
And now he's dead.. Maybe should've cared about the steroids after all? Well, R.I.P anyways!
You got point, but thing is i know people who use it already 20 years and NP... Steorids are bitch that's true, it depends if your heart can handle the pressure, still every sport has it's dangers
Yeah uhmm.. Most sports. Steroids are drugs, drugs are bad.
Yeah uhmm.. Most sports. Steroids are drugs, drugs are bad.
Define drugs.
Are we talking about the broad definition which also includes vitamins which makes the blanket statement (Drugs are bad) incorrect.
Are we talking about drugs in a pharmaceutical context? If so the whole "drugs are bad"-statement is still wrong and you're talking about "incorrect", for lack of a better word, usage of drugs rather than drugs themselves.
If you're talking about recreational drugs then the statement becomes somewhat true but there will be obvious exceptions of drugs that aren't bad in most cases like caffeine. But then you can't say that steroids are drugs.
True.. lulz But what's the point of drugs? Well, It gives them an unfair advantage against others who trained and practiced without using, any drugs. Isn't that so?
True.. lulz But what's the point of drugs? Well, It gives them an unfair advantage against others who trained and practiced without using, any drugs. Isn't that so?
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