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William-CL
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:12 pm |
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Draquish wrote: Reise wrote: They say something in the neighborhood of 1 in 50 million chance something might go wrong. The equivalent to winning the lottery 3 weeks in a row. Murphy's Law? J/k. Sounds like a fine experiment to me.  They should take pix!  They had better. If they are gonna be doing something this big they had better show the sh1t off 
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:10 pm |
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Stop nagging about the temperature.
Core temp of the sun: 13 600 000K Surface temp of the sun: a mere 5800K
^1st problem: which T do they mean. It has quite a big scale.
And you do realise that they're using high temperatures while doing nuclear fusion (not to be mistaken with nuclear fission.) which is perfectly safe. The temperature they need to create a plasma is around 120million K.
As you can see, don't worry about it. These things tend to be quite safe.
P.S. figures are taken from wikipedia as I can't be arsed looking for my physics course from high school.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:32 pm |
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takolin wrote: Stop nagging about the temperature.
Core temp of the sun: 13 600 000K Surface temp of the sun: a mere 5800K
^1st problem: which T do they mean. It has quite a big scale.
And you do realise that they're using high temperatures while doing nuclear fusion (not to be mistaken with nuclear fission.) which is perfectly safe. The temperature they need to create a plasma is around 120million K.
As you can see, don't worry about it. These things tend to be quite safe.
P.S. figures are taken from wikipedia as I can't be arsed looking for my physics course from high school. A Fusion reactor in a power plant would be so pwnage, like no joke. That would be the coolest thing ever, I would pay good money just to watch them turn it on.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:47 pm |
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I have a strong feeling their not going to follow through with this experiment, millions of dollars down the drain...
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takolin
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:50 pm |
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Barotix wrote: A Fusion reactor in a power plant would be so pwnage, like no joke. That would be the coolest thing ever, I would pay good money just to watch them turn it on. You wouldn't be able to see much. I saw one being turned on in Oxford a few years back. A not fully operational one though.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:08 pm |
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A black hole will not form, it is physically impossible. A black whole is when a body of mass roughly 100x bigger than the size of the sun condenses to the size of the ball in a ball point pen, and the gravitational pull is so substantial that it sucks everything in.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:10 pm |
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Mcclane wrote: A black hole will not form, it is physically impossible. A black whole is when a body of mass roughly 100x bigger than the size of the sun condenses to the size of the ball in a ball point pen, and the gravitational pull is so substantial that it sucks everything in. wiki is your friend. They mention that The true properties of a black hole including quantum gravity it unknown. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole Although I agree that it is still impossible for one to form and to even consider that is not very intelligent. If anything goes wrong it will probably be a containment breach causing a big explosion.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:20 pm |
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It'll open a rip in space-time and we'll have a real live Half-Life on our hands. Where's Gordon Freeman when you need him...
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:33 pm |
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Reise wrote: It'll open a rip in space-time and we'll have a real live Half-Life on our hands. Where's Gordon Freeman when you need him... lol
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:21 pm |
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Reise wrote: It'll open a rip in space-time and we'll have a real live Half-Life on our hands. Where's Gordon Freeman when you need him... Actually theres 3 spaces and 1 time. Pick one...
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:50 am |
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Blackdragon6 wrote: Reise wrote: It'll open a rip in space-time and we'll have a real live Half-Life on our hands. Where's Gordon Freeman when you need him... Actually theres 3 spaces and 1 time. Pick one... I meant to reply to this, so here it is: Huh? Also: LHC will re-create a mini big-bang and disprove all religion! Prepare for the Age of Aquarius.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:57 am |
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Reise wrote: Also: LHC will re-create a mini big-bang and disprove all religion! Prepare for the Age of Aquarius. Disproving all religion is quite harsh. It'll try to recreate the conditions after the big bang. Religious people can still argue about what came before the big bang and the thing started the whole thing. Religious people don't need to worry. The bitching to each other will continue no matter what the outcome is.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:53 pm |
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wow some people are just so annoying someimess
u CANNOT PROVE ORR DISPROVE RELIGION ITS A BELIEF NO MATTER WAT U MITE THINK OR HAVE AS SOO CALLED "EVIDENCE"
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honstly no matter wats gona happen u wotn be able too its called a belief so belive it or not tats ur choice now stop being a fool and do wat u want but stop trying to so called prove
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:19 pm |
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big bang theory = BS. where did the explosion come from? darwin himself later said the therory was stupid.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:23 pm |
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devin wrote: big bang theory = BS. where did the explosion come from? darwin himself later said the therory was stupid. 2 parallel membrane universes collided and the explosion is known as the big bang.. just a theory :d Theres countless plausible theories, just look around, its not bullshit.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:51 am |
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Mcclane wrote: A black hole will not form, it is physically impossible. A black whole is when a body of mass roughly 100x bigger than the size of the sun condenses to the size of the ball in a ball point pen, and the gravitational pull is so substantial that it sucks everything in. "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt" A little knowledge is dangerous... People, especially on the internet, need to know when to keep their mouth shut rather than spouting off nonsense about things they don't understand.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:55 am |
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The whole "OMG they're going to make black holes that will envelop the earth and we'll all die!!!!" is stupid. Black holes emit radiation (called Hawking Radiation) which, using E=hv and E=mc^2, means that the black holes can lose mass. From what I've learned (go go Stephen Hawking lecture at Caltech), the smaller the black hole, the faster it emits this radiation. So the tiny black holes made will vanish quickly as they emit radiation and lose all their mass.
So no, any black holes made will not spell the end of earth.
The biggest thing they hope to get from this experiment is proof that the Higg's boson exists. They're pretty sure it does, but they haven't found experimental proof. The Higg's is basically the "glue" that holds current atomic theory together.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:33 am |
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devin wrote: big bang theory = BS. where did the explosion come from? darwin himself later said the therory was stupid. Do you know what a theory is? It's a theory. Can you prove the string theory? No, cause it's a theory. 11 dimensions.. pft yeah right huh? 
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:18 am |
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devin wrote: big bang theory = BS. where did the explosion come from? darwin himself later said the therory was stupid. Pretty sure he wasn't fond of religion either; or any serious scientist past the age where being agnostic or an atheist meant being shun/killed by society. I guess that's why they compromised with deism. Picture with stupid subtitle, I redid it to fit this discussion. 
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:38 am |
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devin wrote: big bang theory = BS. where did the explosion come from? darwin himself later said the therory was stupid. Omg. Darwin, a specialist in biology, dismissed the Big Bang Theory, a theory in physics, as stupid? No waiii!!11 He must be right then.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:06 am |
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dom wrote: At least he is apparently forgiving enough to include that gem in the right background.
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Post subject: Re: Big Bang Experiment Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:13 am |
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JoshPoshMosh wrote: http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91221-1315292,00.html
What do you think about this? I don't really care what they do as long as they don't kill everybody. old, there was a protest at the beginning of this year cos the church was not prepared for Armagedon ~_~
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