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since you seem to be so certain of what you're saying.

I am....I stick to my OPINION


Fundamentalism...it just shows ignorance, arrogance, and lack of understanding.

It's a good thing not all of us on the forum are as narrowminded as you, otherwise it would have no reason to exist as discussion would be impossible.

Oh but wait, narrowminded, doesn't that make you a hypocrite too?

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Do you think he is? If so explain if not then describe what a true leader is like.

I say no, George W. Bush is not a leader. He is weak minded and blindsighted. I cannot understand how someone born rich can be expected to lead a nation of people with different backgrounds. You can't be a leader unless you can relate and understand the people. And sadly George W. Bush cannot relate or understand.

you just described 80 % of the us population
remember politicians came out of American homes and culture
and r voted in by Americans
thats why i will never vote cuz democrat or republic they all = the same 2 me


That not a very good reason not to vote. There are more candidates than Dems and Rep its a shame to waste the only power you really have...

power lol you think any other party has a chance
voting doesnt change anything
no one cares about humanity and the ones that did where shoot or ridiculed
remember gore he won and still lost


its that feeling of hopelessness that keeps changes from being made. You realize only about 1/3 of the American population votes for president because most ppl think their vote doesn't count. If everyone in America decided to vote for who they think should be in office ignoring just the Dem and Rep we might actually see some changes....like i siad its stupid to throw away the only real power you have and its the fact that so many pppl think its useless thats allowing the power of the vote to seem weaker....

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all i can say is he sucks. **** him

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all i can say is he sucks. **** him

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Hmm, Bush is a leader under truely exceptional situations. When he became President, he had a plan for America. The economy was good, approval rating was good, no one really had a huge problem with him. Then, September 11, 2001, the World Trade Centers again were the target of a terrorist attack. This time, it was a sucess, and thousands of people died. Bush did EXACTLY what needed to be done. EXACTLY what a leader needed to do.

He stood up, embraced the american people and went to NY. At the exact moment our country needed a leader the most, Bush was there. Instead of running to camp david and hiding, he dared the terrorists to **** with him again. He declared war, America was fully behind him. Approval ratings that were already good sky rocketed. The economy soared, and nationalism was at a peak.

It is unfortunate what follows. The media in its infinite degregation to the United States single handedly destroyed Bush, the war, and america. Everyday our loses were proclaimed across the interlink, our victories only whispered. Approval rating began to drop, the economy slumped.

I DO NOT agree with Bush on a LOT of things. But god dammit, he was there for us when we needed him, and that is much more than anyone here on these forums can even hope to say, think or even dream. A presidency under extreme and crucial circumstances always gets beef. Look at the Lindon B Johnson presidency. The man did wonders for America, and had it not been for the Vietnam war, he would of undoubted become the best president hence far. But of course the media went to vietnam, destroyed the war, and LBJ.

No, bush may not be doing the best of jobs right now. But hes a leader, Americas leader, and an Americans loyalty is to their country, not the president.

Again, i DO NOT agree with bush on a LOT of stuff, but could you do any better in his situation? I know not.

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Vindictor is obviously white?... and "GOD DAMIT" .... Bush is the fucken genius behind 9/11. Trying to make middle eastern ppl look bad... 9/11 was just an excuse for him to make war... and go steal oil from Iraq. :x

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Vindictor is obviously white?... and "GOD DAMIT" .... Bush is the fucken genius behind 9/11. Trying to make middle eastern ppl look bad... 9/11 was just an excuse for him to make war... and go steal oil from Iraq. :x


lol, i would come back with something, but the obvious lack of seriousness and intuition gives me nothing to rebut against.

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Vindictor is obviously white?... and "GOD DAMIT" .... Bush is the fucken genius behind 9/11. Trying to make middle eastern ppl look bad... 9/11 was just an excuse for him to make war... and go steal oil from Iraq. :x


lol, i would come back with something, but the obvious lack of seriousness and intuition gives me nothing to rebut against.

Oh no, he was being perfectly serious unfortuneately.
That's just how this kid is.

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lol Don't act like he's the only person to say that about Bush. There's at least a few people here who believe the exact same thing.

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Hmm, Bush is a leader under truely exceptional situations. When he became President, he had a plan for America. The economy was good, approval rating was good, no one really had a huge problem with him. Then, September 11, 2001, the World Trade Centers again were the target of a terrorist attack. This time, it was a sucess, and thousands of people died. Bush did EXACTLY what needed to be done. EXACTLY what a leader needed to do.

He stood up, embraced the american people and went to NY. At the exact moment our country needed a leader the most, Bush was there. Instead of running to camp david and hiding, he dared the terrorists to **** with him again. He declared war, America was fully behind him. Approval ratings that were already good sky rocketed. The economy soared, and nationalism was at a peak.

It is unfortunate what follows. The media in its infinite degregation to the United States single handedly destroyed Bush, the war, and america. Everyday our loses were proclaimed across the interlink, our victories only whispered. Approval rating began to drop, the economy slumped.

I DO NOT agree with Bush on a LOT of things. But god dammit, he was there for us when we needed him, and that is much more than anyone here on these forums can even hope to say, think or even dream. A presidency under extreme and crucial circumstances always gets beef. Look at the Lindon B Johnson presidency. The man did wonders for America, and had it not been for the Vietnam war, he would of undoubted become the best president hence far. But of course the media went to vietnam, destroyed the war, and LBJ.

No, bush may not be doing the best of jobs right now. But hes a leader, Americas leader, and an Americans loyalty is to their country, not the president.

Again, i DO NOT agree with bush on a LOT of stuff, but could you do any better in his situation? I know not.



GWB's approval rating wasn't that high from the start. He made the economy worse and allowed tax breaks for the rich while raising taxes for the poor. He was also on vacation when 9/11 started and instead of leading the country to feel safer and more secure his gov't only frightened the american public even more and slowly stripped away the rights granted to us by The Constitution. Did i miss anything. Oh yeah he makes Reise cereal soggy.

Theres so much BS in that statement you made i can only believe you haven't picked up a newspaper or a magazine in the last 7 years....maybe you've just been watching FOX news to much i dunno but next time at least try to get your facts straight....

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Yeah, GWB is the reason a lot of things happen. Like sour milk, rotten fruit, scratched glasses, your chronic headaches, etc.

We should invade Africa and take their diamonds.

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Yeah, GWB is the reason a lot of things happen. Like sour milk, rotten fruit, scratched glasses, your chronic headaches, etc.

We should invade Africa and take their diamonds.


With Leonardo di Caprio?

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Hmm, Bush is a leader under truely exceptional situations. When he became President, he had a plan for America. The economy was good, approval rating was good, no one really had a huge problem with him. Then, September 11, 2001, the World Trade Centers again were the target of a terrorist attack. This time, it was a sucess, and thousands of people died. Bush did EXACTLY what needed to be done. EXACTLY what a leader needed to do.

He stood up, embraced the american people and went to NY. At the exact moment our country needed a leader the most, Bush was there. Instead of running to camp david and hiding, he dared the terrorists to **** with him again. He declared war, America was fully behind him. Approval ratings that were already good sky rocketed. The economy soared, and nationalism was at a peak.

It is unfortunate what follows. The media in its infinite degregation to the United States single handedly destroyed Bush, the war, and america. Everyday our loses were proclaimed across the interlink, our victories only whispered. Approval rating began to drop, the economy slumped.

I DO NOT agree with Bush on a LOT of things. But god dammit, he was there for us when we needed him, and that is much more than anyone here on these forums can even hope to say, think or even dream. A presidency under extreme and crucial circumstances always gets beef. Look at the Lindon B Johnson presidency. The man did wonders for America, and had it not been for the Vietnam war, he would of undoubted become the best president hence far. But of course the media went to vietnam, destroyed the war, and LBJ.

No, bush may not be doing the best of jobs right now. But hes a leader, Americas leader, and an Americans loyalty is to their country, not the president.

Again, i DO NOT agree with bush on a LOT of stuff, but could you do any better in his situation? I know not.



GWB's approval rating wasn't that high from the start. He made the economy worse and allowed tax breaks for the rich while raising taxes for the poor. He was also on vacation when 9/11 started and instead of leading the country to feel safer and more secure his gov't only frightened the american public even more and slowly stripped away the rights granted to us by The Constitution. Did i miss anything. Oh yeah he makes Reise cereal soggy.

Theres so much BS in that statement you made i can only believe you haven't picked up a newspaper or a magazine in the last 7 years....maybe you've just been watching FOX news to much i dunno but next time at least try to get your facts straight....


wow, as usual you come into a topic throwing flaming shit everywhere, but this takes the cake. Not only have you shown a complete lack of comprehension of the world and politics and general understanding, but you have the audacity to say MY facts are not straight. Bush was on vacation? He was at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota FL, a trip that had planned since August to visit the school and students. He was informed during that time of the events and made a public statement shortly after.

Bushes approval prior to 9/11 according to Gallup polls were around 65%. After 9/11, Bush held Gallup's highest approval poll ever, in Gallup History 92%.

The U.S's GDP: (Gross Domestic Product) (since you already showed your level of ability in comprehending things, GDP is the broadest quantitative measure of a nation's total economic activity. It includes Personal consumptions, Government Expenditures, Investment Spending, and Net Exports.) Now that you (I hope) have some kind of a clue...The U.S. GDP has risen from 2000-2005, starting at $9.8 trillion and ending at $12Trillion. GDP has an ebb and flow to it for obvious reasons that the factors are always varying. Since then the Economy has had a trend of little growth. The economy is not plunging, but it certainly is not growing at a rate it should be. The economy doesn't even meet the requirements to be classified a recession yet. Obviously there are very prudent and ineffectual economic exercises by Bush.

Did you miss anything? You missed just about everything. You seem to think I'm a Bush supporter. Pull your head out of your ass, learn some facts, then come back and try to have some intelligent conversation in lieu of spouting your abhorrence and gall all over.

O ya, you missed one more thing. The point of the topic. Bush is a leader, no one ever said you had to like him.

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Hmm, Bush is a leader under truely exceptional situations. When he became President, he had a plan for America. The economy was good, approval rating was good, no one really had a huge problem with him. Then, September 11, 2001, the World Trade Centers again were the target of a terrorist attack. This time, it was a sucess, and thousands of people died. Bush did EXACTLY what needed to be done. EXACTLY what a leader needed to do.

He stood up, embraced the american people and went to NY. At the exact moment our country needed a leader the most, Bush was there. Instead of running to camp david and hiding, he dared the terrorists to **** with him again. He declared war, America was fully behind him. Approval ratings that were already good sky rocketed. The economy soared, and nationalism was at a peak.

It is unfortunate what follows. The media in its infinite degregation to the United States single handedly destroyed Bush, the war, and america. Everyday our loses were proclaimed across the interlink, our victories only whispered. Approval rating began to drop, the economy slumped.

I DO NOT agree with Bush on a LOT of things. But god dammit, he was there for us when we needed him, and that is much more than anyone here on these forums can even hope to say, think or even dream. A presidency under extreme and crucial circumstances always gets beef. Look at the Lindon B Johnson presidency. The man did wonders for America, and had it not been for the Vietnam war, he would of undoubted become the best president hence far. But of course the media went to vietnam, destroyed the war, and LBJ.

No, bush may not be doing the best of jobs right now. But hes a leader, Americas leader, and an Americans loyalty is to their country, not the president.

Again, i DO NOT agree with bush on a LOT of stuff, but could you do any better in his situation? I know not.



GWB's approval rating wasn't that high from the start. He made the economy worse and allowed tax breaks for the rich while raising taxes for the poor. He was also on vacation when 9/11 started and instead of leading the country to feel safer and more secure his gov't only frightened the american public even more and slowly stripped away the rights granted to us by The Constitution. Did i miss anything. Oh yeah he makes Reise cereal soggy.

Theres so much BS in that statement you made i can only believe you haven't picked up a newspaper or a magazine in the last 7 years....maybe you've just been watching FOX news to much i dunno but next time at least try to get your facts straight....


wow, as usual you come into a topic throwing flaming shit everywhere, but this takes the cake. Not only have you shown a complete lack of comprehension of the world and politics and general understanding, but you have the audacity to say MY facts are not straight. Bush was on vacation? He was at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota FL, a trip that had planned since August to visit the school and students. He was informed during that time of the events and made a public statement shortly after.

Bushes approval prior to 9/11 according to Gallup polls were around 65%. After 9/11, Bush held Gallup's highest approval poll ever, in Gallup History 92%.

The U.S's GDP: (Gross Domestic Product) (since you already showed your level of ability in comprehending things, GDP is the broadest quantitative measure of a nation's total economic activity. It includes Personal consumptions, Government Expenditures, Investment Spending, and Net Exports.) Now that you (I hope) have some kind of a clue...The U.S. GDP has risen from 2000-2005, starting at $9.8 trillion and ending at $12Trillion. GDP has an ebb and flow to it for obvious reasons that the factors are always varying. Since then the Economy has had a trend of little growth. The economy is not plunging, but it certainly is not growing at a rate it should be. The economy doesn't even meet the requirements to be classified a recession yet. Obviously there are very prudent and ineffectual economic exercises by Bush.

Did you miss anything? You missed just about everything. You seem to think I'm a Bush supporter. Pull your head out of your ass, learn some facts, then come back and try to have some intelligent conversation in lieu of spouting your abhorrence and gall all over.

O ya, you missed one more thing. The point of the topic. Bush is a leader, no one ever said you had to like him.


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Hmm, Bush is a leader under truely exceptional situations. When he became President, he had a plan for America. The economy was good, approval rating was good, no one really had a huge problem with him. Then, September 11, 2001, the World Trade Centers again were the target of a terrorist attack. This time, it was a sucess, and thousands of people died. Bush did EXACTLY what needed to be done. EXACTLY what a leader needed to do.

He stood up, embraced the american people and went to NY. At the exact moment our country needed a leader the most, Bush was there. Instead of running to camp david and hiding, he dared the terrorists to **** with him again. He declared war, America was fully behind him. Approval ratings that were already good sky rocketed. The economy soared, and nationalism was at a peak.

It is unfortunate what follows. The media in its infinite degregation to the United States single handedly destroyed Bush, the war, and america. Everyday our loses were proclaimed across the interlink, our victories only whispered. Approval rating began to drop, the economy slumped.

I DO NOT agree with Bush on a LOT of things. But god dammit, he was there for us when we needed him, and that is much more than anyone here on these forums can even hope to say, think or even dream. A presidency under extreme and crucial circumstances always gets beef. Look at the Lindon B Johnson presidency. The man did wonders for America, and had it not been for the Vietnam war, he would of undoubted become the best president hence far. But of course the media went to vietnam, destroyed the war, and LBJ.

No, bush may not be doing the best of jobs right now. But hes a leader, Americas leader, and an Americans loyalty is to their country, not the president.

Again, i DO NOT agree with bush on a LOT of stuff, but could you do any better in his situation? I know not.



GWB's approval rating wasn't that high from the start. He made the economy worse and allowed tax breaks for the rich while raising taxes for the poor. He was also on vacation when 9/11 started and instead of leading the country to feel safer and more secure his gov't only frightened the american public even more and slowly stripped away the rights granted to us by The Constitution. Did i miss anything. Oh yeah he makes Reise cereal soggy.

Theres so much BS in that statement you made i can only believe you haven't picked up a newspaper or a magazine in the last 7 years....maybe you've just been watching FOX news to much i dunno but next time at least try to get your facts straight....


wow, as usual you come into a topic throwing flaming shit everywhere, but this takes the cake. Not only have you shown a complete lack of comprehension of the world and politics and general understanding, but you have the audacity to say MY facts are not straight. Bush was on vacation? He was at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota FL, a trip that had planned since August to visit the school and students. He was informed during that time of the events and made a public statement shortly after.

Bushes approval prior to 9/11 according to Gallup polls were around 65%. After 9/11, Bush held Gallup's highest approval poll ever, in Gallup History 92%.

The U.S's GDP: (Gross Domestic Product) (since you already showed your level of ability in comprehending things, GDP is the broadest quantitative measure of a nation's total economic activity. It includes Personal consumptions, Government Expenditures, Investment Spending, and Net Exports.) Now that you (I hope) have some kind of a clue...The U.S. GDP has risen from 2000-2005, starting at $9.8 trillion and ending at $12Trillion. GDP has an ebb and flow to it for obvious reasons that the factors are always varying. Since then the Economy has had a trend of little growth. The economy is not plunging, but it certainly is not growing at a rate it should be. The economy doesn't even meet the requirements to be classified a recession yet. Obviously there are very prudent and ineffectual economic exercises by Bush.

Did you miss anything? You missed just about everything. You seem to think I'm a Bush supporter. Pull your head out of your ass, learn some facts, then come back and try to have some intelligent conversation in lieu of spouting your abhorrence and gall all over.

O ya, you missed one more thing. The point of the topic. Bush is a leader, no one ever said you had to like him.


I lol when Xemnas tries to argue about politics, economics, or the environment.


So do I, but hey, these topics would be boring without people like him :P

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Go fig...

One thing I disagree with Bush is his support of Israel. I'm not arabic. I just don't see why he and most of America are against the Arabics. Instead of trying to find peace with them, The U.S supports Israel even after all the illegal things Israel has done. The U.S veto's everything that is against Israel, even though they drop mustard bombs on Palestinians and invade their land.


Might not make sense to most people what I have posted. I have very little time and I tried to make it brief, maybe later I will return to this topic and edit it.

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Hmm, Bush is a leader under truely exceptional situations. When he became President, he had a plan for America. The economy was good, approval rating was good, no one really had a huge problem with him. Then, September 11, 2001, the World Trade Centers again were the target of a terrorist attack. This time, it was a sucess, and thousands of people died. Bush did EXACTLY what needed to be done. EXACTLY what a leader needed to do.

He stood up, embraced the american people and went to NY. At the exact moment our country needed a leader the most, Bush was there. Instead of running to camp david and hiding, he dared the terrorists to **** with him again. He declared war, America was fully behind him. Approval ratings that were already good sky rocketed. The economy soared, and nationalism was at a peak.

It is unfortunate what follows. The media in its infinite degregation to the United States single handedly destroyed Bush, the war, and america. Everyday our loses were proclaimed across the interlink, our victories only whispered. Approval rating began to drop, the economy slumped.

I DO NOT agree with Bush on a LOT of things. But god dammit, he was there for us when we needed him, and that is much more than anyone here on these forums can even hope to say, think or even dream. A presidency under extreme and crucial circumstances always gets beef. Look at the Lindon B Johnson presidency. The man did wonders for America, and had it not been for the Vietnam war, he would of undoubted become the best president hence far. But of course the media went to vietnam, destroyed the war, and LBJ.

No, bush may not be doing the best of jobs right now. But hes a leader, Americas leader, and an Americans loyalty is to their country, not the president.

Again, i DO NOT agree with bush on a LOT of stuff, but could you do any better in his situation? I know not.



GWB's approval rating wasn't that high from the start. He made the economy worse and allowed tax breaks for the rich while raising taxes for the poor. He was also on vacation when 9/11 started and instead of leading the country to feel safer and more secure his gov't only frightened the american public even more and slowly stripped away the rights granted to us by The Constitution. Did i miss anything. Oh yeah he makes Reise cereal soggy.

Theres so much BS in that statement you made i can only believe you haven't picked up a newspaper or a magazine in the last 7 years....maybe you've just been watching FOX news to much i dunno but next time at least try to get your facts straight....


wow, as usual you come into a topic throwing flaming shit everywhere, but this takes the cake. Not only have you shown a complete lack of comprehension of the world and politics and general understanding, but you have the audacity to say MY facts are not straight. Bush was on vacation? He was at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota FL, a trip that had planned since August to visit the school and students. He was informed during that time of the events and made a public statement shortly after.

Bushes approval prior to 9/11 according to Gallup polls were around 65%. After 9/11, Bush held Gallup's highest approval poll ever, in Gallup History 92%.

The U.S's GDP: (Gross Domestic Product) (since you already showed your level of ability in comprehending things, GDP is the broadest quantitative measure of a nation's total economic activity. It includes Personal consumptions, Government Expenditures, Investment Spending, and Net Exports.) Now that you (I hope) have some kind of a clue...The U.S. GDP has risen from 2000-2005, starting at $9.8 trillion and ending at $12Trillion. GDP has an ebb and flow to it for obvious reasons that the factors are always varying. Since then the Economy has had a trend of little growth. The economy is not plunging, but it certainly is not growing at a rate it should be. The economy doesn't even meet the requirements to be classified a recession yet. Obviously there are very prudent and ineffectual economic exercises by Bush.

Did you miss anything? You missed just about everything. You seem to think I'm a Bush supporter. Pull your head out of your ass, learn some facts, then come back and try to have some intelligent conversation in lieu of spouting your abhorrence and gall all over.

O ya, you missed one more thing. The point of the topic. Bush is a leader, no one ever said you had to like him.


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Go fig...

One thing I disagree with Bush is his support of Israel. I'm not arabic. I just don't see why he and most of America are against the Arabics. Instead of trying to find peace with them, The U.S supports Israel even after all the illegal things Israel has done. The U.S veto's everything that is against Israel, even though they drop mustard bombs on Palestinians and invade their land.


Might not make sense to most people what I have posted. I have very little time and I tried to make it brief, maybe later I will return to this topic and edit it.


Yeah, we dump tons of money into Israel and what do they do? Shoot up Palestinian ambulances and shit. Screw them.

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Go fig...

One thing I disagree with Bush is his support of Israel. I'm not arabic. I just don't see why he and most of America are against the Arabics. Instead of trying to find peace with them, The U.S supports Israel even after all the illegal things Israel has done. The U.S veto's everything that is against Israel, even though they drop mustard bombs on Palestinians and invade their land.


Might not make sense to most people what I have posted. I have very little time and I tried to make it brief, maybe later I will return to this topic and edit it.


Yeah, we dump tons of money into Israel and what do they do? Shoot up Palestinian ambulances and shit. Screw them.


I like watching some of the videos Palestinians vs Israeli army. There was one where some Palestinians dropped a huge ass boulder on an Israeli tank from like a 8 story building... I don't know how the fuck they got it up there.

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Hmm, Bush is a leader under truely exceptional situations. When he became President, he had a plan for America. The economy was good, approval rating was good, no one really had a huge problem with him. Then, September 11, 2001, the World Trade Centers again were the target of a terrorist attack. This time, it was a sucess, and thousands of people died. Bush did EXACTLY what needed to be done. EXACTLY what a leader needed to do.

He stood up, embraced the american people and went to NY. At the exact moment our country needed a leader the most, Bush was there. Instead of running to camp david and hiding, he dared the terrorists to **** with him again. He declared war, America was fully behind him. Approval ratings that were already good sky rocketed. The economy soared, and nationalism was at a peak.

It is unfortunate what follows. The media in its infinite degregation to the United States single handedly destroyed Bush, the war, and america. Everyday our loses were proclaimed across the interlink, our victories only whispered. Approval rating began to drop, the economy slumped.

I DO NOT agree with Bush on a LOT of things. But god dammit, he was there for us when we needed him, and that is much more than anyone here on these forums can even hope to say, think or even dream. A presidency under extreme and crucial circumstances always gets beef. Look at the Lindon B Johnson presidency. The man did wonders for America, and had it not been for the Vietnam war, he would of undoubted become the best president hence far. But of course the media went to vietnam, destroyed the war, and LBJ.

No, bush may not be doing the best of jobs right now. But hes a leader, Americas leader, and an Americans loyalty is to their country, not the president.

Again, i DO NOT agree with bush on a LOT of stuff, but could you do any better in his situation? I know not.



GWB's approval rating wasn't that high from the start. He made the economy worse and allowed tax breaks for the rich while raising taxes for the poor. He was also on vacation when 9/11 started and instead of leading the country to feel safer and more secure his gov't only frightened the american public even more and slowly stripped away the rights granted to us by The Constitution. Did i miss anything. Oh yeah he makes Reise cereal soggy.

Theres so much BS in that statement you made i can only believe you haven't picked up a newspaper or a magazine in the last 7 years....maybe you've just been watching FOX news to much i dunno but next time at least try to get your facts straight....


wow, as usual you come into a topic throwing flaming shit everywhere, but this takes the cake. Not only have you shown a complete lack of comprehension of the world and politics and general understanding, but you have the audacity to say MY facts are not straight. Bush was on vacation? He was at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota FL, a trip that had planned since August to visit the school and students. He was informed during that time of the events and made a public statement shortly after.

Bushes approval prior to 9/11 according to Gallup polls were around 65%. After 9/11, Bush held Gallup's highest approval poll ever, in Gallup History 92%.

The U.S's GDP: (Gross Domestic Product) (since you already showed your level of ability in comprehending things, GDP is the broadest quantitative measure of a nation's total economic activity. It includes Personal consumptions, Government Expenditures, Investment Spending, and Net Exports.) Now that you (I hope) have some kind of a clue...The U.S. GDP has risen from 2000-2005, starting at $9.8 trillion and ending at $12Trillion. GDP has an ebb and flow to it for obvious reasons that the factors are always varying. Since then the Economy has had a trend of little growth. The economy is not plunging, but it certainly is not growing at a rate it should be. The economy doesn't even meet the requirements to be classified a recession yet. Obviously there are very prudent and ineffectual economic exercises by Bush.

Did you miss anything? You missed just about everything. You seem to think I'm a Bush supporter. Pull your head out of your ass, learn some facts, then come back and try to have some intelligent conversation in lieu of spouting your abhorrence and gall all over.

O ya, you missed one more thing. The point of the topic. Bush is a leader, no one ever said you had to like him.



+ MUTHA FUCKING INFINTY!!!!

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Your life is uncalled for. 8)

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Your life is uncalled for. 8)
lmao, I would say "Stallowned!!@!#" But then i would feel lame... lol

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