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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:40 pm 
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Nope, assuming that he is lv80, with fully farmed Wizard skills with a decent staff of let's say +4 he still coulda easily nuked you for 20-22k since you're in Heavy Armor with Life Turnover on. With Vital Increase you get like what? 28k hp? 3 Nukes to take you down if you don't have Mana Skin turned on. Heck what to worry when you were there struggling with Dull and Freezes. Yes, I do know for a fact that INT Spears are one of the easiest to kill, that doesn't mean that win is for sure to side you, especially when you're in Heavy Armor and have a useless(no offence) subclass.

Well since u dont know Yurka is my brother he has a +9 staff and +5/6 gear he doesnt need life turn over and even in life turonover he hit harder but dies faster i know its heavy armor but that doesnt mean that my jewels are bad if i want i also can use my +5 lightarmor set Want to see a wiz in 1 hit that isnt fun many ppl like a long pvp b/c we both are able to die fast in a warior vs wizard but we both control good gear and used our own buffs to surive.
If you want ss to see buffs of all pvp ill host them

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OT: After trying very hard to understand what you were trying to say.

I'm gonna assume that the Wizard in the video in PVP is Yurka. Since he has +9 Staff, why not use it with Life Turnover and finish you in 2 or 3 nukes? I find it REALLY hard to believe that he is just nuking 15k with a +9 Staff without Life Turnover, is he Hybrid?

Yes, jewels help, but it isn't the Kryptonite against Magical damage. I myself took more damage from a lv80 farmed Pure INT Wizard with +7 Staff with +5 Robe set and a +7 72 Shield.

So, first Yurka has -77% damage reduce and now you guys like Pot Wars? Then both of you obviously picked the wrong build to play. And, I'm not doubting that you were buffed by outsiders. Those numbers weren't the least bit close to being astronomical.

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
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of course, a warrior in my guild did that with us. we killed him res'ed him on oblation, buffed him, and he skinned his but off. Nothing happened after we all offered lol.

Yeah its possible without mana


Hmm... Amellie hitted sun Blader in garment with offering 21k (Homicidl)...
Now Obligation Reduces Dmg given by 65% at lv.80 and max hp 65% increase ...
Lets say you have 25k hp with Vital on you ... and with 65% buff its something about 38k ...
Offering (you were in heavy armor) should atleast hit you atleast 30k...
65% of 25k is smoething about 10k ... 3 offerings ... 10k each ... 30k ...

Yeah if my maths is correct (witch I doubt) you should be able to survive ....?!

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
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Nope, assuming that he is lv80, with fully farmed Wizard skills with a decent staff of let's say +4 he still coulda easily nuked you for 20-22k since you're in Heavy Armor with Life Turnover on. With Vital Increase you get like what? 28k hp? 3 Nukes to take you down if you don't have Mana Skin turned on. Heck what to worry when you were there struggling with Dull and Freezes. Yes, I do know for a fact that INT Spears are one of the easiest to kill, that doesn't mean that win is for sure to side you, especially when you're in Heavy Armor and have a useless(no offence) subclass.

Well since u dont know Yurka is my brother he has a +9 staff and +5/6 gear he doesnt need life turn over and even in life turonover he hit harder but dies faster i know its heavy armor but that doesnt mean that my jewels are bad if i want i also can use my +5 lightarmor set Want to see a wiz in 1 hit that isnt fun many ppl like a long pvp b/c we both are able to die fast in a warior vs wizard but we both control good gear and used our own buffs to surive.
If you want ss to see buffs of all pvp ill host them

O mighty wise one, please share your knowledge using our filthy humanly language called English please. Don't forget the lowly punctuation too.

OT: After trying very hard to understand what you were trying to say.

I'm gonna assume that the Wizard in the video in PVP is Yurka. Since he has +9 Staff, why not use it with Life Turnover and finish you in 2 or 3 nukes? I find it REALLY hard to believe that he is just nuking 15k with a +9 Staff without Life Turnover, is he Hybrid?

Yes, jewels help, but it isn't the Kryptonite against Magical damage. I myself took more damage from a lv80 farmed Pure INT Wizard with +7 Staff with +5 Robe set and a +7 72 Shield.

So, first Yurka has -77% damage reduce and now you guys like Pot Wars? Then both of you obviously picked the wrong build to play. And, I'm not doubting that you were buffed by outsiders. Those numbers weren't the least bit close to being astronomical.
Yes we like pots war b/c its a uncommen thing euro vs euro
If i wanted to beat him i went 2h sprint assault kd dead

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:42 pm 
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of course, a warrior in my guild did that with us. we killed him res'ed him on oblation, buffed him, and he skinned his but off. Nothing happened after we all offered lol.

Yeah its possible without mana


Hmm... Amellie hitted sun Blader in garment with offering 21k (Homicidl)...
Now Obligation Reduces Dmg given by 65% at lv.80 and max hp 65% increase ...
Lets say you have 25k hp with Vital on you ... and with 65% buff its something about 38k ...
Offering (you were in heavy armor) should atleast hit you atleast 30k...
65% of 25k is smoething about 10k ... 3 offerings ... 10k each ... 30k ...

Yeah if my maths is correct (witch I doubt) you should be able to survive ....?!

Make that 47k hp

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:32 am 
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Dude, this is my third damn post regarding the stupid Wizard fight. I wasn't doubting that you can't kill him, just that why he isn't killing YOU instead. GOSH, read once in a while.

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
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Dude, this is my third damn post regarding the stupid Wizard fight. I wasn't doubting that you can't kill him, just that why he isn't killing YOU instead. GOSH, read once in a while.

*slaps Swifter*
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Anyways, I would also like to know...

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:53 am 
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Well i dont know maybe for the fact that i use vigor/hp grains mana skin / vital increasse

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:05 pm 
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Well i dont know maybe for the fact that i use vigor/hp grains mana skin / vital increasse

That is virtually impossible? This is a screenshot of a lv80 Pure INT Wizard with +7 72 Staff doing 24k to me with meteor. Your +6 jewels are not even close to a +5 robe set lol.

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
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Put mana skin on and put life turn over off
Vital increasse and u will survive then 1 hp 1 vigor thats 50% recover of 27k hp so 13.5k recover then u will get time to do sprint assault or shield trash thats the way to survive just take hits each 4 secs

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He aint hybrid and he got max int if u want i can post ss of it.
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=16267 3 +6 jewels only 2 used at this one need to blue my new ring
U need to do something about ur set....

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:22 pm 
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I think somebody just got owned ...

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
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... really nice char.. well done, i loved the video, they way u pvp is amazing gratz =)
BakaFish, if you dont like the video just dont post here anymore.. admit that she has a nice build, rogue and warrior, both of them damn strong, she likes to kill uniques, go kill LY with a warrior, does it going to survive? anyway, she/he loves his warrior/rogue i dont see any prob, i like the build just that i would have picked warrior as a subclass and rogue as the main, but is the same thing anyways.. good luck vortex, hope u come up with more vids =)

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
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Don't talk to Baka that way... He probably knows more about warrior than you and vortex put together. Anyways, as you see, you're wearing Armour while Swifter (BakaFish) was wearing robes, which has a LOT more Magical damage absorption than your Armour. If you were to come on the Sparta server, you would get owned with vital increase...
The only thing stopping you from dieing is Mana Skin and your HP 25% and Vigor Recoveries... So in a fair PvP fight, you would also have to let the opponent use those, making you almost absolute to lose against that wizard once your Mana Skin runs out.

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
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Don't talk to Baka that way... He probably knows more about warrior than you and vortex put together. Anyways, as you see, you're wearing Armour while Swifter (BakaFish) was wearing robes, which has a LOT more Magical damage absorption than your Armour. If you were to come on the Sparta server, you would get owned with vital increase...
The only thing stopping you from dieing is Mana Skin and your HP 25% and Vigor Recoveries... So in a fair PvP fight, you would also have to let the opponent use those, making you almost absolute to lose against that wizard once your Mana Skin runs out.
Clothes dont got absorption and dont say i dont know anything about warrior, I was just pointing out that the damage was lower then he said.... even if im in heavy armor.
Saying to move server is something that every one can say but that doesnt prove anything.
no1 on Olympus can kill me in vital increasse execpt wizards ask olympus ppl if u dont believe me.
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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
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LMAO PATHETIC! +9 and doing the same damage as +7 lol and still boasting about his damned jewels. What is the cooldown of those vigors and potion? 0.5 sec? LMAO. Give me a brick, so i can kill myself with it. Yes, I'm done. I don't hate the video, I just hate people who pretend they know stuff when they don't.

Every wondered why Accessory elixirs are always cheaper compared to Protector and Weapon?

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Eh... first of all learn some proper english, my eyes hurt. Second of all, that was a type [absorption] due to the talk of accesories. Third of all, no one can kill Swifter in the whole Sparta server... Not even wizards, since his Robes have much Magical defense, and with his Cleric Sub, there screwed... You probably only get killed by Wizards due to the lack of Robes... you picked a useless Rogue subclass, instead of something else giving you the option of Robes.

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:09 pm 
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LMAO PATHETIC! +9 and doing the same damage as +7 lol and still boasting about his damned jewels. Yes, I'm done. I don't hate the video, I just hate people who pretend they know stuff when they don't.

Every wondered why Accessory elixirs are always cheaper compared to Protector and Weapon?

u want a other ss of a 72+7 wizard i have 3 wiz willing to do that but damage will still be lower and my shield is 68+7 for the ppl that didnt know.
The question is why does he nukes you that hard in Robes.... I dont think u need robes anyway as warrior u already kill ints fast.
and thanks for being done b/c i dindt start like this so good that you end it

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 Post subject: Re: [VIDEO]full melee build
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But not fast enough for you to kill them before they finish you off. As you said, only wizards can kill you. With Robes, you could tank a hit or two, and kill them. With no one being able to kill you besides wizards, robes shouldn't hurt you all that much. And INT's are hard to kill, with there stuns/knockbacks and more...

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Eh... first of all learn some proper english, my eyes hurt. Second of all, that was a type [absorption] due to the talk of accesories. Third of all, no one can kill Swifter in the whole Sparta server... Not even wizards, since his Robes have much Magical defense, and with his Cleric Sub, there screwed... You probably only get killed by Wizards due to the lack of Robes... you picked a useless Rogue subclass, instead of something else giving you the option of Robes.

Like you said in a post before.
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Saying to move server is something that every one can say but that doesnt prove anything.
no1 on Olympus can kill me in vital increasse execpt wizards ask olympus ppl if u dont believe me.
many tried many failed

And uhm... I want to see you in your "armour" PvP against a Wizard/Cleric with VIGORS & 25% HP Recoveries. So than the PvP is fair...

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LMAO PATHETIC! +9 and doing the same damage as +7 lol and still boasting about his damned jewels. Yes, I'm done. I don't hate the video, I just hate people who pretend they know stuff when they don't.

Every wondered why Accessory elixirs are always cheaper compared to Protector and Weapon?

u want a other ss of a 72+7 wizard i have 3 wiz willing to do that but damage will still be lower and my shield is 68+7 for the ppl that didnt know.
The question is why does he nukes you that hard in Robes.... I dont think u need robes anyway as warrior u already kill ints fast.
and thanks for being done b/c i dindt start like this so good that you end it

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You don't know anything do you? Or even read.

He is god damn dealing the same damage with +7 to me rather than your brother's +9 to you,which proved that robe set has more defence than your +6 gears. Am I the only sane one left here?

You also proved my point which is that Yurka could have killed you in 2-3 nukes. 24k per nuke, how many vigors can you use?

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Amen, and if it was FAIR, Yurka should be able to use Vigors and 25% Grains,

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Saying to move server is something that every one can say but that doesnt prove anything.
no1 on Olympus can kill me in vital increasse execpt wizards ask olympus ppl if u dont believe me.
many tried many failed

And uhm... I want to see you in your "armour" PvP against a Wizard/Cleric with VIGORS & 25% HP Recoveries. So than the PvP is fair...

Wiz dies to fast i said i cant tank them by standing still but when ever i pvp them i win.
sure i will ill fraps one of my guild for you
even if i fraps/ss all they want they keep trowing new things to me.


Mod - Please close this topic its becoming a flame war.

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Amen, and if it was FAIR, Yurka should be able to use Vigors and 25% Grains,

He did if u didnt notice but he uses x large b/c his hp is low so grains wont matter that much.....

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Mod - Please close this topic its becoming a flame war.

Flame? Mod? Use the PM button please.

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LMAO PATHETIC! +9 and doing the same damage as +7 lol and still boasting about his damned jewels. Yes, I'm done. I don't hate the video, I just hate people who pretend they know stuff when they don't.

Every wondered why Accessory elixirs are always cheaper compared to Protector and Weapon?

u want a other ss of a 72+7 wizard i have 3 wiz willing to do that but damage will still be lower and my shield is 68+7 for the ppl that didnt know.
The question is why does he nukes you that hard in Robes.... I dont think u need robes anyway as warrior u already kill ints fast.
and thanks for being done b/c i dindt start like this so good that you end it

Edit: Yes i do my english sucks but i try

You don't know anything do you? Or even read.

He is god damn dealing the same damage with +7 to me rather than your brother's +9 to you,which proved that robe set has more defence than your +6 gears. Am I the only sane one left here?

You also proved my point which is that Yurka could have killed you in 2-3 nukes. 24k per nuke, how many vigors can you use?

+9 staff > heavy armor
+7 staff > Robe
Ur damage needed to be lower i got less mag def and a better attacker but still damage ?
he did it in life turnover if a wiz uses it in pvp he dies to fast before he can cast he already got a sprint assault u must know this as a warrior warrior> wizard

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