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 Post subject: Re: Girl dies after parents pray for healing...
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:30 pm 
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OT: Religious institutions need to be abolished before the ignorance overtakes American society. There is already a rejection of intellectual pursuits in the American youth, religion only hastens the process; Forced order can only lead to Chaos and decay.

There was a study released lately that said something of the sort that 80% 'believe' and half of those, 40%, have changed their belief at least once. So, that's around 40 fundamentalists and 40 believers out of 100. I do believe the craziness will deteriorate with more science in time, but unless we'll have nanobots in our bodies we won't see the day when the smart people are the majority.

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 Post subject: Re: Girl dies after parents pray for healing...
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:26 am 
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It seems you're coming at this from an emotional standpoint where I'm coming at this from a logical standpoint. I do believe the parents should be charged, but the girl ultimately died because she was stupid. Natural selection.


I loled so hard I almost fell out of my chair and broke it.

How on earth is it logical for an 11 year old girl to defy her parents and leave the house being extremely sick, to seek medical attention. What do you expect her to do? walk to the hospital? Ride a bike? Call a cab? Hitch a ****ing ride? Or better yet, shes suppose to drive herself there, right. How silly of me to think that an 11 year old wouldn't know the first thing about seeking medical help, I mean clearly every 11 year old knows the nearest hospital and can get there with ease despite obviously fanatical parents.

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 Post subject: Re: Girl dies after parents pray for healing...
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it doesn't matter how capable she was of helping herself, her parents saw she was suffering, and instead of doing the logical thing which was to call for professional help, they decided to let her die. by law, the parents should've seeked professional help and should've done everything they can to figure out what was wrong. they saw that she was suffering, they should've realized that praying to God didn't help her symptoms any.

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it doesn't matter how capable she was of helping herself...

Apparently it does because she died lol.
We're just beating a dead horse. I've made my case very clear, and you disagree with the points you made. Done.

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I believe it depends on the kid. IMO, expecting a kid to react like another is setting yourself up for a surprise. :roll:


In this case, the girl didn't escape and seek professional help. (I know, 'duh')


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Nuklear wrote:
It seems you're coming at this from an emotional standpoint where I'm coming at this from a logical standpoint. I do believe the parents should be charged, but the girl ultimately died because she was stupid. Natural selection.


I loled so hard I almost fell out of my chair and broke it.

How on earth is it logical for an 11 year old girl to defy her parents and leave the house being extremely sick, to seek medical attention. What do you expect her to do? walk to the hospital? Ride a bike? Call a cab? Hitch a ****ing ride? Or better yet, shes suppose to drive herself there, right. How silly of me to think that an 11 year old wouldn't know the first thing about seeking medical help, I mean clearly every 11 year old knows the nearest hospital and can get there with ease despite obviously fanatical parents.


Call 911!

Girl: "help *cough* my parents are fanatics *cough* I'm so sick *barf on phone* I need a doctor *drop phone and faint*"

Officials trace the call and rush over to girls aid. 911 is like the first thing they teach kindergarteners.

Teacher: "when there is a problem you call 9-1-1."

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Barotix wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
Nuklear wrote:
It seems you're coming at this from an emotional standpoint where I'm coming at this from a logical standpoint. I do believe the parents should be charged, but the girl ultimately died because she was stupid. Natural selection.


I loled so hard I almost fell out of my chair and broke it.

How on earth is it logical for an 11 year old girl to defy her parents and leave the house being extremely sick, to seek medical attention. What do you expect her to do? walk to the hospital? Ride a bike? Call a cab? Hitch a ****ing ride? Or better yet, shes suppose to drive herself there, right. How silly of me to think that an 11 year old wouldn't know the first thing about seeking medical help, I mean clearly every 11 year old knows the nearest hospital and can get there with ease despite obviously fanatical parents.


Call 911!

Girl: "help *cough* my parents are fanatics *cough* I'm so sick *barf on phone* I need a doctor *drop phone and faint*"

Officials trace the call and rush over to girls aid. 911 is like the first thing they teach kindergarteners.

Teacher: "when there is a problem you call 9-1-1."


When a little girl is raised in such a family, she hardly sees any error in what her parents are doing. So besides being brainwashed into thinking she is safe, I doubt she would even have the opportunity or the strength to run away / call 911. Everyone seems to forget that she died of a terminal illness, its like she is fine one minute and dead the next.

She was essential held hostage, tortured, and murdered by her parents.

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 Post subject: Re: Girl dies after parents pray for healing...
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Vindicator wrote:
Barotix wrote:
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I loled so hard I almost fell out of my chair and broke it.

How on earth is it logical for an 11 year old girl to defy her parents and leave the house being extremely sick, to seek medical attention. What do you expect her to do? walk to the hospital? Ride a bike? Call a cab? Hitch a ****ing ride? Or better yet, shes suppose to drive herself there, right. How silly of me to think that an 11 year old wouldn't know the first thing about seeking medical help, I mean clearly every 11 year old knows the nearest hospital and can get there with ease despite obviously fanatical parents.


Call 911!

Girl: "help *cough* my parents are fanatics *cough* I'm so sick *barf on phone* I need a doctor *drop phone and faint*"

Officials trace the call and rush over to girls aid. 911 is like the first thing they teach kindergarteners.

Teacher: "when there is a problem you call 9-1-1."


When a little girl is raised in such a family, she hardly sees any error in what her parents are doing. So besides being brainwashed into thinking she is safe, I doubt she would even have the opportunity or the strength to run away / call 911. Everyone seems to forget that she died of a terminal illness, its like she is fine one minute and dead the next.

She was essential held hostage, tortured, and murdered by her parents.


I understand, she was turned into a drone due to improper parenting. :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: Girl dies after parents pray for healing...
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I'd tend to agree but an 11 yr old is pretty smart and self-capable. Do you know an 11 yr old that wouldn't go to the hospital with fatal conditions?


Are you for real? I seriously hope that was some kind of sick, tasteless joke. Not funny.[/quote]
If she's old enough to go for a walk, cycle, communicate with friends, etc then I'd say she's old enough to know when she's about to die; and consequently, go to the hospital or seek help. Look at my previous posts for clarification. The burden of responsibility wasn't totally on her, but when it came down to it she decided to die instead of getting real help.
I for 1 think every creature on this earth knows when it's about to die regardless of age. Have you taken other things into consideration? Maybe she tried but her parents wouldn't let her, remember she's sick, and only 11 and her parents are grown and not sick. And I seriously doubt any "self capable" 11 year old is gonna go to the hospital if she knows her parents are trying(how ever weird and irresponsible they may be) to keep her alive. Get real this is age 11 when they still believed in fairy princesses and know nothing about how hospitals will cure them. At that age they still don't like going to the doctor(I know I didn't and alot of my younger cousins seem to agree). So what do you think they will choose their parents who gave birth to them and cared for them all there life or a doctor who they don't like going to and to them is a stranger.

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911 explanation ftw.
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We're just beating a dead horse.

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I stopped reading after this

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 Post subject: Re: Girl dies after parents pray for healing...
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Fundamentalist christians need an education. It's impossible to be that faithful after having learned history, biology, and anthropology.

My mom's side of the family defend creationism zealously, but none of them have graduated highschool.

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 Post subject: Re: Girl dies after parents pray for healing...
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Lol i was just discussing this in my religion class and somebody was like "If they prayed, why didnt god do something?" and another girl was like "Theres a reason for everything" and then somebody else said "What if God DID provide help? and that help was the hospital but her parents didnt recognize it?"

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Lol i was just discussing this in my religion class and somebody was like "If they prayed, why didnt god do something?" and another girl was like "Theres a reason for everything" and then somebody else said "What if God DID provide help? and that help was the hospital but her parents didnt recognize it?"

Indoctrination ftepicl.

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 Post subject: Re: Girl dies after parents pray for healing...
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here parent r either:
A. stupid
B. hate her
C. think they r clerics lol.

god made hospitals for a reason.

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god made hospitals for a reason.

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