Nothing cannot create something, it has to be there smt always exist from the beginning, smt that trigger time, space, dimension and create matter
What if it isn't nothing creating something though?
What if the stuff that created the universe is a form of matter we haven't discovered yet, or can't even perceive as human beings? They say there's a buttload of incomprehensible matter out there, (AKA dark matter) so who's to say that nothing actually was something, but just something we haven't discovered yet?
That's why the Big Bang is just a theory, you can't prove it, but there is still a possibility.
I believe everyone came from energy that pre-existed in the universe =O.
The only thing that pre-existed in the universe was God.
God seems too... illogical. I just can't seem to believe that 1 person created everyyyything and that if you don't have faith in this person you get punished. Seems retarded. Only my IMO
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God seems too... illogical. I just can't seem to believe that 1 person created everyyyything and that if you don't have faith in this person you get punished. Seems retarded. Only my IMO
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I believe everyone came from energy that pre-existed in the universe =O.
The only thing that pre-existed in the universe was God.
God seems too... illogical. I just can't seem to believe that 1 person created everyyyything and that if you don't have faith in this person you get punished. Seems retarded. Only my IMO
The human mind is highly intelligent. The way our minds work is simply amazing. We came from the dam stone age! We used nothing but rocks and tools in our hands! To now advancing and building super computers, boats, cars, and even weapons that can destroy the human race takes logical and precise thinking. Like i said, the human mind is really SMART! I really don't think we came "nothing". This may sound weird... But i kinda go by this saying: "If a spirit(Ghost) can exist and walk among us, i know a higher being that "created" us can exist.
But i don't know what im yapping. It's 12:10 and im tired... lol
God seems too... illogical. I just can't seem to believe that 1 person created everyyyything and that if you don't have faith in this person you get punished. Seems retarded. Only my IMO
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this is why i view people on the pure scientific view poorly.
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God seems too... illogical. I just can't seem to believe that 1 person created everyyyything and that if you don't have faith in this person you get punished. Seems retarded. Only my IMO
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this is why i view people on the pure scientific view poorly. they are all retards
Ghost aren't real. If it's paranormal, supernatural, or mythical it isn't real. =_= I mean honestly, "what if catholic religion is correct?" Well, then one can say the same about all religions, but you don't see Buddhist or Hindus going on and on and on about how much they hate science (because two theories, out of many, apparently go against their spiritual book.) for some reason. =/
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Ghost aren't real. If it's paranormal, supernatural, or mythical it isn't real. =_= I mean honestly, "what if catholic religion is correct?" Well, then one can say the same about all religions, but you don't see Buddhist or Hindus going on and on and on about how much they hate science (because two theories, out of many, apparently go against their spiritual book.) for some reason. =/
Every religion has different views on stuff. But i don't care which religion is right. As long as a higher being exists and we aren't living life for no reason. I'm ok with that. (I'm catholic)
Ghost aren't real. If it's paranormal, supernatural, or mythical it isn't real. =_= I mean honestly, "what if catholic religion is correct?" Well, then one can say the same about all religions, but you don't see Buddhist or Hindus going on and on and on about how much they hate science (because two theories, out of many, apparently go against their spiritual book.) for some reason. =/
I totally wish i could see their opinion on here need more perspectives
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from a statistical standpoint, you should believe in god.
say this: (theoretical, I believe in god and prayer, in baptism and in communion....simply not the "go to church on sunday every week and give the church money" organized religion it has always been) 99.999999% chance god doesnt exist. 00.000001% chance he does.
however what do you get if you don't believe and he doesn't exist? nothing. you cease to exist when you die. but if you're wrong, welcome to damnation. what if you do believe and you're wrong. what do you lose? nothing. you cease to exist. but if you're right.......salvation and eternal life.
sounds like a win win to me (that was from a philosopher a long bit ago. not my point of view. kkty) Personally, due to the sheer amount of energy we produce, once we die, that energy cannot simply vanish. It must become something else. Called the law of conservation of mass/matter/etc.
The downer of god is the church. It sucks. Corrupted fathers, poorly maintained funds, sinners that run the holy affairs of the sabbath day. It's bullshit. I pray when I need guidance, when I'm sad, angry, happy...Not when I'm told.
Imagine if a god did not exist. (Yes, he does and i don't feel like arguing, read my previous posts in the previous pages)
Everything you've done in life, was for no reason. Everything you experienced was for nothing, your happiness, your sorrows, each and every emotion you've experienced was for NOTHING.
A: The sky is blue. B: I have faith that it's red. A: That's nice, but it's blue. B: Prove it. A: I can't prove it but I can support it with facts, evidence, and years of research: [etc...] A: Can you support yours with facts, evidence, and years of research? B: Look, see this holy book. It proves it! A: Yeah, faith =/= proof. B: ... OK, see this video: Look at this video. A: Faith and fallacies? O.o B: OK, here's another video! A: Faith gallery menz. Do you even know what science is? B: Yeah, it's a bunch of BS! C: I am an educated creationist and beg to differ! Science is not BS. Just because you're misinformed on the subject of science doesn't make you right. Science isn't flawless. Some pieces don't fit. A theory is merely an explanation for laws and events that occur in nature. Usually an accident, followed by observation, followed by studies, a conclusion, and more studies. That is Science! B: Look, see this holy book! A: >_> o.O? The sky is blue. You have no evidence other than a supernatural book. B: You have no evidence at all! A: /face palm C: /face palm
Before Grandpa came there was never a C. Usually me raging/ranting after solid arguments fail.
Dude, I love you man, but you took it wrong -
I was pointing about why the "You're dumb" rebutal is used, it's BS.
I was not reading into it, I haven't seen you use "you're too dumb to agrue with" so I wasn't pointing it at you, I welcome debate and discussion, I love to see the facts on both sides but not when some stalls with a insult.
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penfold1992 wrote:
durka durka muhammad gihad allah 10k plys. thats all i hear :S
however what do you get if you don't believe and he doesn't exist? nothing. you cease to exist when you die. but if you're wrong, welcome to damnation. what if you do believe and you're wrong. what do you lose? nothing. you cease to exist. but if you're right.......salvation and eternal life.
pascal's wager? please stop throwing that shit around, it's getting stale
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Everything you've done in life, was for no reason. Everything you experienced was for nothing, your happiness, your sorrows, each and every emotion you've experienced was for NOTHING.
wtf r u talking about? iono how fking retarded r u, but to me, everything i've done in my life is for me and for my family's benefit. i can't believe u actually think that what u do, ur accomplishments in life is all for when u die...what fking pipe dream r u living in
pascal's wager? please stop throwing that shit around, it's getting stale
wtf r u talking about? iono how fking retarded r u, but to me, everything i've done in my life is for me and for my family's benefit. i can't believe u actually think that what u do, ur accomplishments in life is all for when u die...what fking pipe dream r u living in
At least you are consistent. If death itself cannot triumph over you, certainly your "shit" won't get stale.
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Reise wrote:
...there's a buttload of incomprehensible matter...
This thread is a buttload of incomprehensible matter.
Sorry. I hadda.
the_wicked wrote:
what if you do believe and you're wrong. what do you lose? nothing. you cease to exist. but if you're right.......salvation and eternal life.
If there was a belief-in-god switch in the back of your head, yeah, I suppose it would make sense to turn it on. I'd just tell my family to flick the switch right before I died. Heaven, here I come!
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need more perspectives
At least you are consistent. If death itself cannot triumph over you, certainly your "shit" won't get stale.
