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Apparently many people consider the pilot who successfully landed a plane on the Hudson River a hero. But then, assuming he wanted to live himself, he did it to save himself which in turn saved the others. (For the record, the pilot came out saying that he is not a hero, the success of the landing was due to the crew.)
To me, the criteria of a hero, he/she has to go out of the way (like putting him/herself at risk of death) to help others. Like the Navy SEAL who threw himself on top of a grenade to save the other 3 teammates, that's a hero. He could have chose to duck for it but he chose not to.
The pilot did an amazing feat, he should be congratulated for his excellence but no hero.
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Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:01 am
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yes he saved the day but there really was no conflict in this... the plane was Farking up so he crash landed it, like every other well trained pilot would try to do. kudos to him for actually being able to pull it off, i'm sure to the people on the plane and their families he is their hero but i can't really identify with it and call him a hero to mankind or anything.
Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:03 am
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He also could've caved under pressure and farked up the landing and killed everyone.
He's a hero because he saved people where others may have screwed it up. And I know I can't fly a plane, so I'm not even gonna say anything about how difficult the situation was.
Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:44 am
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"The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters." by D'Amato, Cus Quote from trainer of Mike Tyson (the best trainer in world in my though)
Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:19 am
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user wrote:
To me, the criteria of a hero, he/she has to go out of the way (like putting him/herself at risk of death) to help others. Like the Navy SEAL who threw himself on top of a grenade to save the other 3 teammates, that's a hero. He could have chose to duck for it but he chose not to.
The pilot did an amazing feat, he should be congratulated for his excellence but no hero.
Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:15 am
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user wrote:
Apparently many people consider the pilot who successfully landed a plane on the Hudson River a hero. But then, assuming he wanted to live himself, he did it to save himself which in turn saved the others. (For the record, the pilot came out saying that he is not a hero, the success of the landing was due to the crew.)
To me, the criteria of a hero, he/she has to go out of the way (like putting him/herself at risk of death) to help others. Like the Navy SEAL who threw himself on top of a grenade to save the other 3 teammates, that's a hero. He could have chose to duck for it but he chose not to.
The pilot did an amazing feat, he should be congratulated for his excellence but no hero.
Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:34 pm
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I disagree, he is a hero because he was under huge pressure but was able to land the plane without screwing up and killing everybody, or worse, crashing it into a building somewhere. And I'm pretty sure landing a big plane like that on a river isn't easy to do.
Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:53 pm
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Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:43 pm
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zShared wrote:
If you were one of the passengers.. wouldn't you consider him a hero for saving your life?
haha, the exact example my parents threw at me when i was discussing this with them
i'll consider him a kick ass mofo but no hero
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My school is next to the Hudson River. He is a hero because he didn't kill me.
so technically speaking, ur mom is a hero for not choosing abortion. the asian driver who braked for you this morning is a hero. i am a hero too for not coming for you.
Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:51 pm
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user wrote:
zShared wrote:
If you were one of the passengers.. wouldn't you consider him a hero for saving your life?
haha, the exact example my parents threw at me when i was discussing this with them
i'll consider him a kick ass mofo but no hero
Sorry bud, but there aren't any real life Supermans out there. Heroes, to me, are ordinary people who go above and beyond their call of duty as a citizen.
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Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:03 pm
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.curve wrote:
Sorry bud, but there aren't any real life Supermans out there. Heroes, to me, are ordinary people who go above and beyond their call of duty as a citizen.
This.
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Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:37 pm
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Well... We are humans. We are weak, fragile, covards and so on.
But still, there are moments. When you are scared, still you face the dangers or even doom itself and overcome your fears/limits to do what must be done. Save lifes, or do something others can not, even if you face death or some other grave posiblity. If you are capable to overcome your weaknesses. You are a hero. It does not matter what you do but fot that few second of your life, you are more than an average man/woman and you deserve to be called a hero.
Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:31 pm
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user wrote:
.curve wrote:
Heroes, to me, are ordinary people who go above and beyond their call of duty as a citizen.
it sounds like you didn't even read my OP at all
Thread title: "what is your definition of 'hero'"
Anyways, I don't think you need to put yourself at risk to be a hero. I believe the pilot's a hero, no real reason for it other than that he did extremely well and kept his cool and saved like a hundred people. No need for it to get technical whether or not he put himself at risk or not.
Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:56 pm
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Using your example of a hero, would that Navy SEAL still be a hero had he instead pushed his teammates out of the way of the hazard effectively saving himself and his comrades in the process? Or would that, too, be filed under "amazing feat, but no hero"?
Are only dead, courageous individuals considered heroes? Just wondering.
Post subject: Re: what is your definition of 'hero'
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:29 pm
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i remember reading a story about a woman that saved her husband and her son from getting shot.she actually died trying to rescue them cuz she ended up getting shot instead. i dont think anyone wud die trying to save someone else's life cuz we live in a selfish society!!
THAT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, is the definition of a hero
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