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The number of people that showed up is astonishing. Almost seems like the big 'hippie' movement with the way there doing that 'peace sign' with there fingers, and the green arm/head band things.
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This was from yesterday. The head cleric is going to speak out today. It probably happened already or is going to happen within the hour, its about 12:35 there now. The head cleric is for the protests and Reza Aslan pretty much said today that even if the head cleric tries to settle down the protests they could get bigger but we'll see.
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Prophet Izaach wrote:
What they're doing is very admiring. I'm really hoping it will result in a revolution.
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." - V
What a fucking stupid quote. Why do some people think chaos is glorious and revolutions are the shit. Theyre not. Unless there's a real good fucking reason to overthrow a government, get people killed, an destabilize everything, people who want revolutions and people who think revolutions are cool fail at life. Governments are there for a reason - its to prevent dipshits from turning the world into a gong show and to keep them in control.
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Mr.Ganji wrote:
Prophet Izaach wrote:
What they're doing is very admiring. I'm really hoping it will result in a revolution.
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." - V
What a fucking stupid quote. Why do some people think chaos is glorious and revolutions are the shit. Theyre not. Unless there's a real good fucking reason to overthrow a government, get people killed, an destabilize everything, people who want revolutions and people who think revolutions are cool fail at life. Governments are there for a reason - its to prevent dipshits from turning the world into a gong show and to keep them in control.
So what do you do when your gov't is the dipshit turning the world into a gong show attempting to control everything around it regardless of the rights it steps over to achieve its goals...
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XemnasXD wrote:
Mr.Ganji wrote:
Prophet Izaach wrote:
What they're doing is very admiring. I'm really hoping it will result in a revolution.
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." - V
What a fucking stupid quote. Why do some people think chaos is glorious and revolutions are the shit. Theyre not. Unless there's a real good fucking reason to overthrow a government, get people killed, an destabilize everything, people who want revolutions and people who think revolutions are cool fail at life. Governments are there for a reason - its to prevent dipshits from turning the world into a gong show and to keep them in control.
So what do you do when your gov't is the dipshit turning the world into a gong show...
Like I said, it would have to be a reason justifiable with a coup or protest or petition. But christ its the fcking 21st century...crap like that doesnt happen in civilized worlds. Quotes like the one above are senseless and only foster ignorance and disloyalty.
Its Iran. The Middle East. The last frontier. Maybe once democracy and religious moderation and cleaner politics kick in sometime we'll stop having a headache over the whole region.
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lol ganji you're borderline comical sometimes...
Democracy and cleaner politics? Did you forget the past 8 years what with our president ignoring a good chunk of the constitution or the Florida Ballot incident that got him elected in the first place. This is not a bush rant btw he's just a very good example of dirty our politics are and how democracy always seems to come second when people people are terrified out of their minds, a coincidence maybe? I think not. Iran is not the last frontier. Far from it. It's not some backwards country stuck in the 1800s. These protest are extremely similar the protest in the US against the Vietnam War, and we used similar actions to quell them, opening fire on civilians.
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."
Gov'ts derive their power from the people, not the other way around. If a gov't has become corrupted to the point where the needs and interest of the people are being ignored then by all means it is time for that gov't to go. You can't possibly have that flag in your avatar and ignore the fact that it was founded upon the ideals of revolution.
The Declaration of Independence wrote:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
These are ideas that your flag is founded upon. To spit in the face of that vendetta quote is to spit in the face of the ideals of the founding fathers.
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Yeah Ganji that's kinda off to be thinking other nations might be "above" having violent revolutions. Everything you know to be civilized can be taken away in an instant, doesn't matter where you live. Once that happens you better be ready to get up and do something about it.
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asusi wrote:
Jstar1 wrote:
what else do you expect from a caucasian-hating, women-hating, jew-hating, full-of-oil, islamic country?
you make your self look even more stupider if you bind a Country with religion Islam has nothing to do with Iran government, so STFU!!!
Actually the Supreme Leader is the Ayatollah not to mention that the laws of the country are heavily based on the word of the Quran effectively making the country a Theocracy...
Of course Jstar's comment as usual has no merit and is based entirely in ignorance. You shouldn't take something he says seriously considering he doesn't know the first thing about the people or the culture of Iran. He's merely making generalized statements based off of a warped western interpretation of the Islamic and Iran world that is often fed to the American public.
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I'm trying to stay on top of this as much as i can. The video is gruesome so i wont link but here is the description.
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Facebook: Basij shoots to death a young woman in Tehran's Saturday June 20th protests At 19:05 June 20th Place: Karekar Ave., at the corner crossing Khosravi St. and Salehi st. A young woman who was standing aside with her father watching the protests was shot by a basij member hiding on the rooftop of a civilian house. He had clear shot at the girl and could not miss her. However, he aimed straight her heart. I am a doctor, so I rushed to try to save her. But the impact of the gunshot was so fierce that the bullet had blasted inside the victim's chest, and she died in less than 2 minutes. The protests were going on about 1 kilometers away in the main street and some of the protesting crowd were running from tear gass used among them, towards Salehi St. The film is shot by my friend who was standing beside me. Please let the world know.
Shot for no god damn reason. The comments people are leaving about it are pissing me off even more.
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Reise wrote:
Judging from the pics of her, it almost looks like the people who were trying to help actually contributed to her death.
You don't need 5 guys to do CPR.
Actually it wasn't cpr. i thought that too but they were all holding her chest trying to stop the blood. The video tape of the night home invasion is crazy. It doesn't show anything but you can hear car alarms going off and a lot of people screaming.
This page is very very fast. All day long its been going like 2 every second. Neda is the girls name that died in the video. Reports on cnn said she was 16 idk how accurate that is tho.
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the one who controls the military is the one who needs to be overthrown, im not sure which one that is. Protesters can show support for the Iranian people but there should be NO intervention. By that i mean the US should not send in troops of any kind. Doctors maybe, if they want guns they can get them, they're cheap but we don't need another Iraq on our hands and this is clearly a civil conflict. No matter how many die, they've got legs, they'll get up and use em.
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Take your fascist inclination elsewhere. As for Jstar. Bigotry is ignorance.