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What I hate about the laws concerning it is that we are trying to control a person's life on our own morals. I mean first of all did any human agree to be born before he was? I mean life was forced upon everyone of us and we didn't choose the environment we live in so suicide should be an option because the one who want to do it never agreed to exist on this world also he may have been forced to live with parent's he doesn't like and in family standards that aren't suitable to him. People say they are cowards but I think that they thought the negatives of life out weigh the positive I mean he didn't sign up for it.Also in a very different matter I think that parents getting a child without knowing if the child wants to be born is unfair to the child I mean god should ask someone if he wants to exist before making him( I know that is impossible). Other people say you hurt others when you kill yourself well it isn't your fault I mean they are hurting the one who wants to suicide by forcing him to live in conditions he doesn't want maybe if he was a parent then he would have no right until his children are over 21 but other than that if someone thinks it's unfair to him if his loved one killed himself then he/she should be able to convince him/her that to actually want to live.I myself liked that I was born but if someone told me that he thinks that the requirements of life are too boring or not pleasant for him to handle I say kill yourself if you want to.

What right do we have to tell someone live a life you don't enjoy. If the society want to force people to live they should give them a perfect life.

I also hate the argument when someone says other people have it worse it's like saying I only cut one of your hands while I could have cut both of them also maybe those who have it worse have more motivations and aspiration to live while others have nothing they enjoy in life.

It should be accepted, but you shouldn't do it. Suicide is selfish and weak. Always face your problems, never run away from them.

Suicide hurts those around you more than it hurts yourself. That is usually why it's looked down on.

Selfish?? did you read what I posted? how is it selfish
isn't it selfish from the society to have you live in a life you dont want? Isn't it selfish of the parents to create you without permission?

Ok but are you saying that those who loved you have the right to make you live a life you didn't wish to be brought it? That is like slavery I mean when parents have kids it's the same as having a slave.

ok your post in way too big so I will try to reply to it piece by piece
(1)you are assuming a person wanted to be in life to begin with I mean you are saying give up it isn't something you took but you failed at it is something that was forced upon you like slavery."Everyone has circumstances that are unfavourable in one way or another" I hate this line because you are saying because other people also have it bad you too have to suck it up that doesn't make sense because other people don't choose for you. You must be allowed the choice of weighing the positives and the negatives of your life and decide if it is worth living . Just because you enjoy it you don't have the right to say you have to live because if you are patient enough you will also come to enjoy it and it has nothing to do with cowardness it is about choosing whether you are satisfied with existing a s awhole or not.
I will reply to the other pieces soon

"There is no way around this, its always detrimental to the people around you and the community as a whole to selfishly leave behind those that you love and are suffering the same hardship as you. Nothing is done by quitting, nothing is accomplished, wars are not decided by those who die for their country but by those who are able to live on and write the history."

It is not selfish for someone to kill himself I mean you are making love sounds like a shackle . a person doesn't ask people to love him they do it against his will so they are the selfish ones. they are saying you have to live a life you don't want to live because we like you well that is stupid and selfish, especially from the parent I mean they forced you to exist against your will.
And you are saying it like we have a duty to society to accomplish we never choice to have it before we were born society has duty to convince us to exist in it.(sorry for the bad grammar I hope it's readable)

"In that case everyone that complains about their life and people who dont have a big house and a ferrari should also kill themselves cause their life is also not perfect. That is such a flawd way of thought, I also have times when I dont enjoy the qaulity of life, but only you can decide whether to change that or not."
they should get the right to kill themselves even if one tweenee piece of life isn't perfect and even if it is perfect we should get the right not to live it .(you are saying because the hotel is nice you have to stay where is the logic here?)

mister joey : sorry I meant to edit.(you are saying that I am wrong without any explanation that is like a +1 post...)

"Believing in a god and the thought that he controls who can live or not devalues human life a lot and sets us back to the medi-evil age again. You could have been someone else from the same parents, of course you wouldnt know that because your reality is the only one that you could ever comprehend. The human mind cannot comprehend existence without self conciousness."

my point that parents aren't god to choose that their children have to exist because they want to and they aren't omniscient to know that their child would rather existing that not being born.

A. You're wrong.
B. Quit double posting.

There is ALWAYS something to live for period.

TLDR; But bro don't drink and smoke weed, srsly

Living and wasting resources, hurting our environment and taking from those that are less fortunate; is it not more selfish to live than to die when life is meaningless?

QFT

"You obviously have no understanding for the beauty of life. This mindset is destructive and on top of that there are people with no limbs that still enjoy the quality of life that they have. Your mindset is whats wrong with melodramatic teenagers these days, get over yourselves and change things if you dont like them"
Even if I didn't do I have to ?. OK so because they can enjoy it I must? maybe they like living more than others. Who are you to say that that life has a quality which everyone appreciate ?
right and wrong are subjective so I don't need to comment on this part. But if the thing we don't like is the fact that we are alive?
(You kept using You so I had to reply with I even though it doesn't express what I think about life.In my original post I never used I so you shouldn't reply with a you. )

so when my bf comes to me for issues when he gets depressed (him and his parents don't get along and it effects him a lot). the times that i stopped him from taking his life I AM THE WRONG ONE? yet he keeps thanking me for being there and STOPPING him taking his life.

excuse me if i seem harsh or what not but i actually know the pain that comes from a suicide. the good lives that could of been are RUINED because of one mistake. yes mistake because we are meant to live through the good and the bad and this is the only shot you get.

here is a little story about my life. back when i was a kid i was suicidal i can't even count how many times i almost attempted suicide. now i am Farking thankful myself i didn't.

it is selfish because you hurt all those that love you, only because you think you can not handle your problems anymore and you choose the easy way. I would never do such a thing to my family and loved ones. Killing myself won't only ruin my own life, but also their lifes.

Pretty much sums up what I was about to post.

To all saying it hurts people around you, what about the people who don't have anyone who cares for them, since they don't hurt anyone they can suicide?

Let's say a man with no family/friends just lost his job, since he wont get money, he won't be able to pay for a place to live, no money for food either, he doesn't have anyone to help him, he's been through difficult times his whole life, and he's too tired to keep trying.

Should he be allowed to do it?
I think he should, he suffered his whole life with barely any happy times, why would he want to keep living after that?

Your being selfish for forcing someone to live a life they don't want.
Suicide should be accepted, it is part of life, if they think they are shit then don't let them pass down their genes.

Billions of people on earth and the governments waste time discussing suicide,why not focus on the economy,which I suicidal ^in it's own ways.
no morals, yeah boy

i personally would do it. cuz im a wuss. but if a loved one were to do it id understand. its their reasons and they may feel its their last sense of control.

I think it should be allowed if the person really did consider it, but many people who didn't commit suicide say they made the right choice. Also, if you have/had friends and family, it will affect them a lot.
Here's a song to go with this...

The most important thing we should all be aware of, is that, it will consist of ups and downs
failures and successes. For all of us. And seriously, no problem is un solvable.

If you have children and they are young. then you killing yourself. Isn't that selfish?

Well, once you've done it. you're gone. For good

i lol'd when i read "The beauty of life" as if all life is beautiful or as if the beauty of it even reach everyone and if it did it would someone outweigh the massive shit life can put on a person. Oh that flower is so pretty...too bad i work for practically slave wages and my water and air is slowly killing me and i will die in poverty probably of terrible cancer or some horrible disease.

If you want to kill yourself then i see no reason why anyone should stop you. Existence isn't for everyone. I don't see why anyone should help you either unless you have like, some terminal illness.

Face your problems. Life is precious. Only pussies run away. etc

that tough guy talk is garbage in the face of some circumstances and i doubt the people who said those things actually follow them 100% of the time.

ThAts the thing if i had killed myself then I wouldn't care about being selfish.
Being deadhas benefits of no consequences for the person commiting it

What would you do if you meet someone.. maybe a close friend or someone in your family. who wants to kill himself/herself.

Would you say
Well, you doesn't deserve to exist.. So why don't you go kill yourself?

What a terrible thing to Say. Is It or Isn't It?

Ok, let's all go suicide whenever we did something wrong. In 2050, half of the population on earth are killed. /sarcasm

Help yourself, help others.

Don't run away from the obstacle. Embrace it.

Always ask the question : "how would I feel if my brother/sister/parents suicide (before me)"

No one see the future => you don't know how important is your role in this life.

Beggars on the road are stronger (in term of the mind), know how precious their life, more respectful than the weak who wants to choose an easy way. If I were God, I'd put him in hell. If he can't love himself, how could he loves everyone else around?

Of course, it's your body, you have the total control over it, you can do whatever you want with it. A good suicide is to jump into volcano, that way the body will disappear over time. This method won't affect the society, people will see you as "being lost" and not "commit suicide". A meaningful suicide range from being food for animals to is a suicide which positively affects the society like

True; to survive, but i rly can't call that living..

Who says suicide is weak ( I disregard the selfish part as you should operate in a self interested manner to begin with ) ... blah blah blah ... don't push your ideals of self satisfaction, virtue, happiness onto others .... because you are wrong and life, any action, anything at all has w/e value you decide it has.

Most suiciders did it because of a problem they had one way or another. So yes I see it as a weak act, traumatizing your relatives/friends and I know what it can do to people first hand. It's even worse if people do it on tv/in public, traumatizing innocent bystanders only for the last try to get attention, pathetic.

madah123, if you get it right the first try, you don't have to worry about it being accepted or the law. Unless you are talking about life insurance and all that not being paid... Also, by your logic, I should be apologizing to my daughter for having her without her permission. The human race would really last if we all thought like you...