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Do you tip? If not.... what are your arguments against tipping? xD

Bad service = Reduced and some cases no tip.

Sometimes I get rude waiters/waitresses and I don't tip them as a way of saying "fuck you too "

yeah... the whole no-pay, only tips business is f*cking stupid...
I never understood how that ever became a thing in America.
Restaurants just need to stop being so greedy and pay their damn waiters. They're just making it a pain for their customers and essentially charging extra.

I work in the business so I tip pretty damn well because that is their main source of income usually, if I get a really shitty waiter I will leave next to nothing or just change.

in the UK, we dont tip much at all. the price of going out is much higher and we assume the price of the standard tip is included in the bill.

also, most places in the UK do not allow you to tip a waiter directly, a tip goes to the business and not to the individual so the tipping system is completely different to that in the US

Don't tip all that much, but quite often since I don't go to such places much.

I've never seen anyone tip here in Holland. I assume it is calculated in the price.

What would happen.. If you want to tip anyway?
Well, there's nothing stopping you from doing so.

If they place doesn't allow it them wanting to keep their job will stop you.


Anyway I never liked the idea of tipping. Always thought they should get paid enough for the job that they don't need tips. Tipping shouldn't be a needed source of income.

same here.

tips are bullshit anyway imo, why should I tip someone for doing their job? i don't get tips when doing my job either. it's really a cultural thing I guess.

I remember seeing a while ago that in China or Japan, maybe both, tipping is seen as a rude gesture kind of like saying fvck you I'm better than you. Maybe it was Vietnam. I'm too lazy to look it up.

The reason is in the US waiters makes ridiculously low wage like under 2$ per hour or something, so if they don't get tipped they dont make shit.

The question really should be why the hell are waiters getting paid under 2$, I mean really no one profits except the business. I mean apparently it helps keep the price down for the restaurants but i still see 20$+ per every entree everywhere ~,~'

Typically how it is setup is that "tipped" employees (those are people whom make at least $30+ monthly in tips) make a lower minimum wage than other employees. The amount is dependent on the state; however, where I live minimum wage for tipped employees is $4.76 and minimum wage for other hourly employees is $7.78.

However, that's just some logistics, not exactly what they're paid. The tips are technically (under the Fair Labor Standards Act) property of the employee, and the employer can't use those tips besides credit against its minimum wage obligation to the employee (referred to as "tip credit"), or in a tip pool.

Tip Credit: Under Section 3(m) of the FLSA permits an employer to take a tip credit toward its minimum wage obligation for tipped employees equal to the difference between the required cash wage (must be at least $2.13) and the federal minimum wage. Thus, the maximum tip credit that an employer can currently claim under the FLSA is $5.65 per hour (the minimum wage of $7.78 minus the minimum required cash wage of $2.13.

Tip Pool: The requirement that an employee must retain all tips does not preclude a valid tip pooling or sharing arrangement among employees who customarily and regularly receive tips, such as waiters, waitresses, bellhops, counter personnel (who serve customers), bussers, and service bartenders. A valid tip pool may not include employees who do not customarily and regularly received tips, such as dishwashers, cooks, chefs, and janitors

Blah, blah, blah there's more to it but that's as much as I'm willing to re-post

If you want more information go:
http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.pdf

Thought we already had this topic... And if 2.60 an hour is too low, nobody forces ppl to take the job. This give the restaurant the chance to hire more ppl without raising the cost of food. Also, most time they have to come out with at least standard min wage.

A lot of waiters make well over min wage around here. Just this morning I left a 15 dollar tip for a 40 dollar breakfast with a few buddies. Was there maybe 30 minutes, and there were several other tables being waited on by this girl. Purdy sure she made out decently.

Restaurant tip = 30%. If the gratuity is fixed, then I just round it up to the nearest tenth, so if it comes up to something like $68.25 (including tips), then I just give $70 flat. I know people who are and used to work in restaurants and it's not a decent paying job. The only reason those people stay there is because of the tips. If the service was not that good, then I'll just give it the minimum 15% (just because tips are pooled).

If you talk about the guy who cuts my hair, I give it an extra 50%. For tattoos, 30%. For piercings, $5~$10.

In most cases, it's 30% or twice the total tax.

I totally agree!

That's easy to say! When they might "particularly need" the money, and might have a tough time..

It was in China where tipping is actually a rude gesture. Same with eating all the food on your plate (means you're not full). I can see it being the same in Japan as well too

In Denmark we don't really tip a whole lot.
It does happen some places, though. And when I tip, it's quite easy:
If they delivered a great service, I'll give more. If I waited too long, or the food wasn't all that good, they get less.

But it really happens very rarely.

Yeah, FUC* yuo Chinese waiter have an extra 400$, Yeah you go buy that PS4 with the hate these tips harbor for you.

Having had all my older siblings work as waiters at some point or another, Ive always tipped great. Because, at the end of the day, am I really going to miss that extra $10 dollars? Nope. Plus, a great tip can make someones day. So while its impossible to buy your own happiness, you can buy other peoples happiness. Even if only briefly, I find it worth it.

The thing is I dont see tipping as a bad thing I work at a restaurant that a guy could go home with $20 in his pocket or $400 dollars in his pocket and I dont know a place thats going to pay him anywhere near that for 1 days work.

Yeah. Plus I always liked working for tips. Nothing feels better than after giving someone kickass service, they reward your effort with a nice tip.

Well, a tip should be a show of "appreciation" rather than... something that is expected.

I don't think of it as a bad thing, but as wouter said: why tip someone for doing their job. Since I don't eat out personally, atleast not in tip giving establishments. I could see myself tipping in a restaurant if the waiter goes the extra mile for the service.

Honestly, if the service if good, I really don't mind giving a good tip to a waiter that served us the whole meal.

What f*cking bothers me, is when you're expected to tip some douchebag jack ass who simply opens a beer for you in a bar, most often "service" is shit/takes forever and he's not even spending 15 seconds to "serve" you. Like wtf, give it to me closed and I'll just open it or even better put beer vending machines in bars!

what if tips dont go to an individual like cash in hand but instead have to go through the business first? tips in the UK do not go to the waiter that served you most of the time.

Lol they expect to be tipped? Wtf..

@penfold: I always thought all tips go in a jar and it gets split by the waiters from that evening. Or maybe that's just from all the movies it happens in.

I know that usually happens among bar tenders and bar backs.

This. I think restaurant workers typically keep whatever tips they earn. I don't know for sure though, I've never worked in the food service industry. I know a friend of mine works at a brewery where they serve beer and food and even when he's just bussing tables, he gets a certain percentage of tip from each server.

As for do I tip or not:
If the service was good, the waiter was courteous, timely, and accurate, and I generally enjoyed myself there, I'll tip good. I feel the amount of tip they receive is earned by their performance. Even if they're a little slow, maybe get an order wrong, etc., as long as they were able to keep a good attitude and be a generally nice person, I'll tip them. It's all depends on the situations for me I suppose is the best way to put it.