Girl dies after parents pray for healing...

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341574,00.html

WESTON, Wis. — An 11-year-old girl died after her parents prayed for healing rather than seek medical help for a treatable form of diabetes, police said Tuesday....

parents should be charged wit gross negligence, that's a sign of abuse too >.>

agent420 · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 952 **Location:**

people like that are morons!!!

hospital vs. church...
hospital FTW

FireVortex · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 2005 **Location:**

Yep saw this story awhile ago in the newspapers.Rly weird that they didnt go to the doctors.

Megami · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1019

thats ridiculous. idiot shouldnt have kids if they dont know whats good for them.
hospitals>church in this sort of matter definitely

Draquish · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 6423 **Location:** ____

Here's a story that my dad always used to tell me:

Story wrote:

There once was a great flood.
Everyone was told to evacuate two weeks before the flood, but a man, who's faith was as strong as David's, stayed behind.
The day of the flood came, and the man, raising his voice, prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, spare me from destruction."
The water rose, and a rescue team came to save the man, but he refused to go with them, claiming that the Lord himself will spare him.
The man, not wanting to drown inside his own house, climbed to the roof; once again he raised his voice and prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, spare me from destruction."
Once again, the same rescue team came back to save the man, but he refused, claiming that the Lord himself will spare him.
The water rose again, now up to the man's neck; he rose his voice and prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, I claim to thee, spare me from destruction!"
Once again, the same rescue team, accompanied by their department-head, came to save the man.
They tried and tried unsuccessfully to convince the man to come with them, but the man claimed with all his strength that the Lord himself will spare him.
The water suddenly rose to the equivalent of twice the man's height.
The man drowned, and upon reaching heaven, asked god why he hadn't saved him from death.
God, as cool as he is, answered:
"Dude, I sent a rescue team three times and their department head! What else do you want?"

ArchYourFace · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 638 **Location:**

God = Good
Religion = the Epitome of evil in our society.

they were to busy trying to impress themselves and their religious friends that they neglected to medically treat their daughter.

Takeshina · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 55 **Location:**

I don't know why this is such a shock to people though, this happens left right and centre in religions like Jehova's Wittness'. They wont accept blood transfusions, so if a member of their family is bleeding to death and could be saved by having a blood transfusion they don't let it happen. They'll let them die.

Innovacious · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 2446 **Location:**

Draquish wrote:

Here's a story that my dad always used to tell me:

Story wrote:

There once was a great flood.
Everyone was told to evacuate two weeks before the flood, but a man, who's faith was as strong as David's, stayed behind.
The day of the flood came, and the man, raising his voice, prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, spare me from destruction."
The water rose, and a rescue team came to save the man, but he refused to go with them, claiming that the Lord himself will spare him.
The man, not wanting to drown inside his own house, climbed to the roof; once again he raised his voice and prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, spare me from destruction."
Once again, the same rescue team came back to save the man, but he refused, claiming that the Lord himself will spare him.
The water rose again, now up to the man's neck; he rose his voice and prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, I claim to thee, spare me from destruction!"
Once again, the same rescue team, accompanied by their department-head, came to save the man.
They tried and tried unsuccessfully to convince the man to come with them, but the man claimed with all his strength that the Lord himself will spare him.
The water suddenly rose to the equivalent of twice the man's height.
The man drowned, and upon reaching heaven, asked god why he hadn't saved him from death.
God, as cool as he is, answered:
"Dude, I sent a rescue team three times and their department head! What else do you want?"

its been a while since ive actually laughed out loud on here

Hearsay · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:13 pm

Megami wrote:

thats ridiculous. idiot shouldnt have kids if they dont know whats good for them.

Yeah i agree.

The punishment for the father of this child should be what's in your sig, but instead of stomping on him they should use sledge hammers, that'll make sure he'll never have kids again.

It's disgusting to know there are such things in this world. Parents neglecting their children, as if their children know what to do in extreme circumstances. Being so young they look to their parents for guidance and in this instance this child was lead down the pathway of death. Unbelievable!

It's also stupid how:

Quote:

The girl's parents, Dale and Leilani Neumann, attributed the death to "apparently they didn't have enough faith,"

I'm sure that this little girl had placed faith in her parents to take care of her. Where did that lead?

JacksColon · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 2018 **Location:**

this is why people like this need to be allowed to die off....I'm all for socialized healthcare, welfare, etc...but sometimes I wonder, we keep helping out the Farking retards, when they should just be left to "go away"

mahumps · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1715 **Location:**

Draquish wrote:

Here's a story that my dad always used to tell me:

Story wrote:

There once was a great flood.
Everyone was told to evacuate two weeks before the flood, but a man, who's faith was as strong as David's, stayed behind.
The day of the flood came, and the man, raising his voice, prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, spare me from destruction."
The water rose, and a rescue team came to save the man, but he refused to go with them, claiming that the Lord himself will spare him.
The man, not wanting to drown inside his own house, climbed to the roof; once again he raised his voice and prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, spare me from destruction."
Once again, the same rescue team came back to save the man, but he refused, claiming that the Lord himself will spare him.
The water rose again, now up to the man's neck; he rose his voice and prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, I claim to thee, spare me from destruction!"
Once again, the same rescue team, accompanied by their department-head, came to save the man.
They tried and tried unsuccessfully to convince the man to come with them, but the man claimed with all his strength that the Lord himself will spare him.
The water suddenly rose to the equivalent of twice the man's height.
The man drowned, and upon reaching heaven, asked god why he hadn't saved him from death.
God, as cool as he is, answered:
"Dude, I sent a rescue team three times and their department head! What else do you want?"

I heard that story before and I kinda like it.

OT: Ok so the parents faith was great but their really stupid if you ask me.

Megami · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1019

they coulda took her to the hospital. and prayed there or performed some remedies damn..

mahumps · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1715 **Location:**

Idk about them but we do prayers during emergency operations. Meaning we send our love ones in the hospital and then pray.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:49 pm

Draquish wrote:

Here's a story that my dad always used to tell me:

Story wrote:

There once was a great flood.
Everyone was told to evacuate two weeks before the flood, but a man, who's faith was as strong as David's, stayed behind.
The day of the flood came, and the man, raising his voice, prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, spare me from destruction."
The water rose, and a rescue team came to save the man, but he refused to go with them, claiming that the Lord himself will spare him.
The man, not wanting to drown inside his own house, climbed to the roof; once again he raised his voice and prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, spare me from destruction."
Once again, the same rescue team came back to save the man, but he refused, claiming that the Lord himself will spare him.
The water rose again, now up to the man's neck; he rose his voice and prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, I claim to thee, spare me from destruction!"
Once again, the same rescue team, accompanied by their department-head, came to save the man.
They tried and tried unsuccessfully to convince the man to come with them, but the man claimed with all his strength that the Lord himself will spare him.
The water suddenly rose to the equivalent of twice the man's height.
The man drowned, and upon reaching heaven, asked god why he hadn't saved him from death.
God, as cool as he is, answered:
"Dude, I sent a rescue team three times and their department head! What else do you want?"

lol very clever

DaZzY · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 1357

wow, you cant be serious -.-

Vindicator · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1734 **Location:** L-A-B

They should be arrested for neglect and murder.

Wu · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 2521 **Location:** Around.

Draquish wrote:

Here's a story that my dad always used to tell me:

Story wrote:

There once was a great flood.
Everyone was told to evacuate two weeks before the flood, but a man, who's faith was as strong as David's, stayed behind.
The day of the flood came, and the man, raising his voice, prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, spare me from destruction."
The water rose, and a rescue team came to save the man, but he refused to go with them, claiming that the Lord himself will spare him.
The man, not wanting to drown inside his own house, climbed to the roof; once again he raised his voice and prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, spare me from destruction."
Once again, the same rescue team came back to save the man, but he refused, claiming that the Lord himself will spare him.
The water rose again, now up to the man's neck; he rose his voice and prayed:
"Oh merciful Lord, ruler of the universe, I claim to thee, spare me from destruction!"
Once again, the same rescue team, accompanied by their department-head, came to save the man.
They tried and tried unsuccessfully to convince the man to come with them, but the man claimed with all his strength that the Lord himself will spare him.
The water suddenly rose to the equivalent of twice the man's height.
The man drowned, and upon reaching heaven, asked god why he hadn't saved him from death.
God, as cool as he is, answered:
"Dude, I sent a rescue team three times and their department head! What else do you want?"

That' awesome

hahah

On topic: and that's just horrible. Aweful. ...and stupid imho.

Grimm-.- · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:10 pm

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

-2 For Religion. Lmao...Resurected !!!!!...Zomg Such a shame.

x_iCe_x · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 369 **Location:**

i'm from southeast WI and didn't hear it yet, anyone know exactly where it is?

deep.in · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:23 pm

You play too much silkroad when you believe in resssssssssssss.

Morgoth · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 854 **Location:**

@Draquish: lol i remember that story

anyone read angels and demons? i just reread it the other day and the parents of Kohler (a character in the novel) did the same thing instead of using medicine, that's why he became crippled

just thought id point it out

STARNATION · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 341 **Location:** LAB

Lot of stupid parents in this world. *sigh*

GrorG · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:49 am

Me like priest
me sacrifice sheep
me catch bungalo next day
feast of a thousand moons!
me get bam bam with cave woman

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

In Cases like this, why don't they just do both?

theblindarcher · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:57 am

god damn the parents are useless piles of shit....

Jstar1 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 4757 **Location:**

religion is one of the best examples of irony

Blurred · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 2894 **Location:**

what a retard

Nuklear · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 3272 **Location:**

Natural selection. Are the parents horrible humans? Yup. Did the girl deserve to die? Yup.
I don't care if my parents are mentally retarded and don't know the best for me, I still seek help or go to a hospital or pharmacy on foot if I must. She either refused help, refused to seek it, or believed like her parents. Either way she was dumb, and now she's dead.
Tragic story but the girl was ultimately negligible to herself.

/Pi · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 4592 **Location:**

You guys know what would nail this shit? If the parents become happy for their child's death because they have faith that she's finally with God in heaven.

/Pi · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 4592 **Location:**

Nuklear wrote:

Natural selection. Are the parents horrible humans? Yup. Did the girl deserve to die? Yup.
I don't care if my parents are mentally retarded and don't know the best for me, I still seek help or go to a hospital or pharmacy on foot if I must. She either refused help, refused to seek it, or believed like her parents. Either way she was dumb, and now she's dead.
Tragic story but the girl was ultimately negligible to herself.

At her age, that's not entirely stupidity. She was raised and cared for by her parents (until this incident) and from this, a strong filial piety and trust were formed. She's 11 for goodness' sake. The responsibility entirely rests in the parents' hands.

On the other hand, if our species evolved following typical semelparous strategy, with little or no parental care, I'd say it's her fault.

EDIT: F*ck me. Double post.

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