Taxes on the internet? O.o

Stephanus · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:57 am

Im from hungary and right now i dont know what should i do.
Our government will put taxes on the internet... its like wtf?
Is this fakin "we put taxes on the internet thing" a common stuff in western ES or in the USA? Anyone? Anywhere?
Im clueless right now.
If there are no precedent related to this, i emigrate to anywhere who are actually ppl with common sense.

Pls help me

Breed · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:15 am

hehe
That sucks dude!
I'm not sure whether this is the same or not (me being young and unknowledgable)
But I'm pretty sure Australian government is going to be paying for broadband soon.

Good stuff =)

Stephanus · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:58 am

Thats insane i say.
Duhh... gotta look for other states in eu.
T.T

tedtwilliger · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:32 pm

Breed wrote:

hehe
That sucks dude!
I'm not sure whether this is the same or not (me being young and unknowledgable)
But I'm pretty sure Australian government is going to be paying for broadband soon.

Good stuff =)

No, i really doubt that.

Our economy is slowly going down hill. The John Howard reign was during a time of strong economic growth, the resources boom was a great help (though that isnt gonna last for ever either ). Now considering our interest rates have rose astronomically, oil is now $117 per barrel and our health care systems are as bad as ever the government will hardly spend billions of dollars paying for out internet. Petrol in nsw is already at $1.59 per liter and thats with our dollar faring well against the us dollar. All it will take is for our dollar value to fall and boom, petrol, petrol related things such as imports, all of it will increase dramatically in price. I admit i am no economist, but this is why my logic tells me.

They will spend money upgrading the connections so that outback locations can get access to broadband, but they wont be paying for it.

Vandango · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 4143 **Location:**

Nobody owns the internet so how the hell can you tax it ¬¬

iGod · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 3728 **Location:**

Internet access is taxed here too. It's a service so it's taxable. Unless you mean something else?

takolin · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 4238 **Location:** Life

They can tax things you buy or sell on the internet like purchases made on ebay.

If you can earn money on the net, you can be taxed on them as well. Governments can be quite nifty when it comes to taxes.

cin · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:51 pm

tedtwilliger wrote:

Breed wrote:

But I'm pretty sure Australian government is going to be paying for broadband soon.

Good stuff =)

No, i really doubt that.

Our economy is slowly going down hill.

should be allright now. i'm back in NL.

PureStr · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1244 **Location:** GTA5

takolin wrote:

Governments are quite nifty when it comes to taxes.

Fixed

cpinney · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:08 pm

the Australian economy sounds allot like Americas hehe :roll:

Love · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 5336 **Location:**

lol taxes on the internet = rape

Blurred · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 2894 **Location:**

Lmfao that would suck if they taxed the internet here... Omg that would be crazy

Stephanus · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:30 pm

Thats the point how the hell do they want tax the internet?
coz isp's ALREADY paying for tax and we do it too in the form of average commercial tax(by us ÁFA) also, some dickwhad in the government talked about that "more than half of this cultural tax would be used to build more curtular stuff and blahblahblah *insert blackfox here*... -.-"
and then the uber dickwhadness:
"This cultural tax should be expanded to clothings, like upper clothings and scarf's and neckties too"
O.O
Uhoh.
This is when i started to believe im on something or wtf is going on?
if you can google translate it, then here is a blog post about this madness.

http://republican.blog.hirszerzo.hu/?to ... y&vid=8032
http://index.hu/politika/belfold/2006/v ... kuj080423/

Grandpa · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 867 **Location:**

Vandango wrote:

Nobody owns the internet so how the hell can you tax it ¬¬

The FCC owns and leases the bandwidth, Quoting Answers.com Business & Finance:

Quote:

Bandwidth is providing customers with a direct connection to the Internet.
... Currently the company is using Part 15 of FCC code to transmit the Internet data.

They also control (if allowed by Congress) who can do what:
Senate Committee Votes to Overturn FCC Cross-Media Ownership Rules

Dorgan wrote:

Sen. Byron Dorgan, a North Dakota Democrat highly critical of media concentration speaking to reporters, said:
"We have five or six major corporations in this country that determine, for the most part, what Americans see, hear, and read every day. I don't think that's healthy for our country."

Don't kid yourself into thinking we're not being taxed or controlled.
It's just not 'direct' like a 'luxury tax' (yet).

~Grandpa

CrimsonNuker · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 13791 **Location:**

I have taxes from my ISP for their internet services?

Grandpa · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 867 **Location:**

CrimsonNuker wrote:

I have taxes from my ISP for their internet services?

Only indirectly. All corporations pay tax, all costs are passed onto the consumer in the long run. There is another thread about internet costs called "Virgin killed the internet" somewhere here too. But then (to my way of thinking) tithing is also a tax because it was first levied in England (by the Church of England) in the 4th century AD to pay for the church and its clergy.

Your ISP is a corporation, that is, a legal entity, chartered by a state or the federal government, and separate and distinct from the person(s) who own it. In much the same way that the Church of England allowed tithes to be collected as tax, 'we' allow corporations to mandate¹ -AND- collect monies from others. Parts of those fees are given back to the government. A symbiotic relationship, if you will.

~Grandpa

p.s. AND IF that's not enuf check this thread "THAT'S WHACK!"
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FOOTNOTE: ¹Mandate (legal definition): A contract by which one party agrees to perform services for another without direct payment

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