Big Bang Experiment

JoshPoshMosh · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 452 **Location:**

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,, ... 92,00.html

What do you think about this? I don't really care what they do as long as they don't kill everybody.

iGod · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 3728 **Location:**

2 protons wont kill anyone. Possible breakthrough in dark matter and fusion energy sources.. Fermilab is the same collider like that one but a lot smaller, you dont see it killing anyone

Blurred · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 2894 **Location:**

eh... it could make a black hole... Unless im reading it wrong?

RogueKiller · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1893 **Location:**

Blurred wrote:

eh... it could make a black hole... Unless im reading it wrong?

Your right.
Thats the bad side to it.

Blurred · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 2894 **Location:**

RogueKiller wrote:

Blurred wrote:

eh... it could make a black hole... Unless im reading it wrong?

Your right.
Thats the bad side to it.

Also heres a comment someone wrote.

Quote:

Is no one else worried that they are purposely creating the so called big bang under france and switzerland. Atoms moving at the speed of light and becoming 100,000 times hotter than the sun?!?! this sounds a little dangerous to me. I know they may think they have taken all proper precautions but really, How do you contain something like that?! these people may be pushing the limits of Science which is all well and good but i, for one, dont fancy getting blown up thanks.

iGod · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 3728 **Location:**

The black hole would vaporize in billionths of a second, to actually sustain one they would need to use something that has a couple hundred times more mass than our sun so..

RogueKiller · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1893 **Location:**

The earth has enough protons to sustain a black hole long enough for it to become dangerous, right?
Edit: Meh I think I read the article wrong when I looked up what it takes to sustain a blackhole.

Blurred · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 2894 **Location:**

iGod wrote:

The black hole would vaporize in billionths of a second, to actually sustain one they would need to use something that has a couple hundred times more mass than our sun so..

"The millions of collisions will create temperatures 100,000 times hotter than the sun."

Even if it dosent create a blackhole (which i bealive it will)... How can they explain this? 100 timeshotter than the sun, how the hell can the earth handle this?

Morice · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 79 **Location:**

Why do these people like to spend soo much money that can be spent on like world hunger or
people that are starving. Honstly its a waste a time, human kind always wants an answer for everything. They cant just go on beliveing. Lets go ahead and spend billions of dollers, where we mite not find an answer but might kill us all as well. Very smart these scientists these days.

Blurred · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 2894 **Location:**

Morice wrote:

Why do these people like to spend soo much money that can be spent on like world hunger or
people that are starving. Honstly its a waste a time, human kind always wants an answer for everything. They cant just go on beliveing. Lets go ahead and spend billions of dollers, where we mite not find an answer but might kill us all as well. Very smart these scientists these days.

I agree so much with you... But i guess they bealive there always gonna be "hunger" so therefore they rather work on something else.

iGod · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 3728 **Location:**

Morice wrote:

Why do these people like to spend soo much money that can be spent on like world hunger or
people that are starving. Honstly its a waste a time, human kind always wants an answer for everything. They cant just go on beliveing. Lets go ahead and spend billions of dollers, where we mite not find an answer but might kill us all as well. Very smart these scientists these days.

Lol how charitable are you. Are you ready to make the starving your obligation? To feed them for years and years? Their situation will never change, there will always be people starving.

This might actually help them, discovering new energy sources (fusion, dark matter, like i said before).

And the 100000X hotter than the sun will be on a very small area, smaller than an atom, its safe.

Du De Wei · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 195 **Location:** the bay

iGod wrote:

Morice wrote:

Why do these people like to spend soo much money that can be spent on like world hunger or
people that are starving. Honstly its a waste a time, human kind always wants an answer for everything. They cant just go on beliveing. Lets go ahead and spend billions of dollers, where we mite not find an answer but might kill us all as well. Very smart these scientists these days.

Lol how charitable are you. Are you ready to make the starving your obligation? To feed them for years and years? Their situation will never change, there will always be people starving.

This might actually help them, discovering new energy sources (fusion, dark matter, like i said before).

And the 100000X hotter than the sun will be on a very small area, smaller than an atom, its safe.

ahem socialist democracy....FTW

america can make enough food to feed the world they just need a cheaper way to ship the food to make it efficient, you say there will always be people starving because you dont have to worry about it watch the video so you wont be so ignorant next time you post please

http://youtube.com/watch?v=j7Vl0peys90

but back on topic it seems dangerous to me but I dont know in depth what their doing and most of the comments everyone made about destroying the earth im sure they thought about it and these people are 100000x smarter than we will ever be so I guess we just have to trust them

Sovereign · **Posted:** Sat May 10, 2008 4:11 pm

Well this stuff is a bit much for me. I dont understand what they can achieve by carrying out this experiment. Anyhow i just hope something dosent go wrong cause i live really close to the CERN site :banghead:

Gaigemasta · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 4474 **Location:**

for earth to become a blackhole it needs to be the size of pea O_O :banghead:

(THERE GOES MY WORLD DOMINATION PLAN!)

LaloHao · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1987 **Location:** Mexico

Morice wrote:

Why do these people like to spend soo much money that can be spent on like world hunger or
people that are starving. Honstly its a waste a time, human kind always wants an answer for everything. They cant just go on beliveing. Lets go ahead and spend billions of dollers, where we mite not find an answer but might kill us all as well. Very smart these scientists these days.

Smarter than Religion at least, Science is at least trying to create other energy sources besides oil, what does religion does? steal 10% of the money people get and what they do with it, just see the popes, full of jewels, i dont see them helping starving people either

Blurred · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 2894 **Location:**

LaloHao wrote:

Morice wrote:

Why do these people like to spend soo much money that can be spent on like world hunger or
people that are starving. Honstly its a waste a time, human kind always wants an answer for everything. They cant just go on beliveing. Lets go ahead and spend billions of dollers, where we mite not find an answer but might kill us all as well. Very smart these scientists these days.

Smarter than Religion at least, Science is at least trying to create other energy sources besides oil, what does religion does? steal 10% of the money people get and what they do with it, just see the popes, full of jewels, i dont see them helping starving people either

You're an idiot.

/Pi · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 4592 **Location:**

The scientists in this experiments have spent years to obtain their PhD, and decades more to be in the position they are now. But here we are, in this forum, worrying about accidental formations of black holes and strangelets, as if these scientists haven't thought about them.

LaloHao · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1987 **Location:** Mexico

Blurred wrote:

LaloHao wrote:

Morice wrote:

Why do these people like to spend soo much money that can be spent on like world hunger or
people that are starving. Honstly its a waste a time, human kind always wants an answer for everything. They cant just go on beliveing. Lets go ahead and spend billions of dollers, where we mite not find an answer but might kill us all as well. Very smart these scientists these days.

Smarter than Religion at least, Science is at least trying to create other energy sources besides oil, what does religion does? steal 10% of the money people get and what they do with it, just see the popes, full of jewels, i dont see them helping starving people either

You're an idiot.

thanks

Morice · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 79 **Location:**

LaloHao wrote:

Morice wrote:

Why do these people like to spend soo much money that can be spent on like world hunger or
people that are starving. Honstly its a waste a time, human kind always wants an answer for everything. They cant just go on beliveing. Lets go ahead and spend billions of dollers, where we mite not find an answer but might kill us all as well. Very smart these scientists these days.

Smarter than Religion at least, Science is at least trying to create other energy sources besides oil, what does religion does? steal 10% of the money people get and what they do with it, just see the popes, full of jewels, i dont see them helping starving people either

k im sorry but just because pope or w.e. that buys jewels or stupid junk instead of spending it on something doesnt make them belivers. its because of these kind of people that christians and any other acutal true believers that they seem to be people that use donations for their own.
but thats not true. a majority of these people acutal help others. one example is my family
wer not rich, wer ok but we try and give a such as possible so that others can live "good" too.
im not trying to show off or somethign just trying to prove a point.
just becuase someone does this and that and says that its for God doesnt make then anyyy bit christians if they dont do it fully.
now on topic, i honstly do not see how this experiement is going to benefit me in anyway possible. u wana do something good put more money on hydrogen fuel cars, put more money on finding ways to reduce our pollution. not to prove or not the so called big bang.

/Pi · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 4592 **Location:**

Morice wrote:

now on topic, i honstly do not see how this experiement is going to benefit me in anyway possible. u wana do something good put more money on hydrogen fuel cars, put more money on finding ways to reduce our pollution. not to prove or not the so called big bang.

There are numerous experiments out there that do not benefit anyone directly. However, information from these experiments stack up, and eventually they are used by scientists to move on to larger projects. Other experiments even lead to astonishing unexpected results - serendipities. As iGod has pointed out earlier, these experiments can lead to discoveries on alternative energy sources. Science seeks to find information, whether beneficial to you or not.

Yes, it would be great to put all our efforts on hydrogen fuel, pollution reduction, the cure for cancer and AIDS, etc. but this demand is impractical. Scientists are specialized on their own branch of studies. One nuclear physicist, who have studied their field for years, cannot just drop his work and then focus to any of the mentioned causes. That's just one. What about the rest? You also have to keep in mind that we already have people working on these projects, and more.

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

They are going to go too far and kill everyone.

On a serious note it's really good, but at the same time bad because I was reading about something like this a long time ago. An ounce of anti-matter mixed with dark matter or something like that will exceed the current worlds explosive power. Not trying to rag on the goverment, but we all know what they will want to use something like this for, "Peace"

The question you have to ask is, Is it worth the risk?
I am not sure yet, but we'll see what the future has in store with this.

XCaosX · **Posted:** Sat May 10, 2008 8:10 pm

waaa im afraid :oops:

why scientist have to try things like that

i know that they wanna know more things about univers and bla bla bla,but its dangeroussss

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

XCaosX wrote:

waaa im afraid :oops:

why scientist have to try things like that

i know that they wanna know more things about univers and bla bla bla,but its dangeroussss

Especially considering the 100,000 times hotter than the sun.

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

Prophet Izaach wrote:

The scientists in this experiments have spent years to obtain their PhD, and decades more to be in the position they are now. But here we are, in this forum, worrying about accidental formations of black holes and strangelets, as if these scientists haven't thought about them.

lol No kidding.

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

Reise wrote:

Prophet Izaach wrote:

The scientists in this experiments have spent years to obtain their PhD, and decades more to be in the position they are now. But here we are, in this forum, worrying about accidental formations of black holes and strangelets, as if these scientists haven't thought about them.

lol No kidding.

Yes, but they do they know how the big bang happened? What if it happened, by a chain reaction happening sub atomically, spreading throughout the universe within but a few nanoseconds? We can't know that. They are trying to figure it out. And if they do, then some guy named doctor evil is going to re-create it :oops:

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

Blackdragon6 wrote:

Yes, but they do they know how the big bang happened? What if it happened, by a chain reaction...

Now wait right there Einstein. You're saying all this stuff having zero knowledge of the subject compared to those scientists and developing a "DOOOOOM!" mentality from it. I think you need to do yourself a favor and look into the situation some more, like learn some stuff for yourself.

These aren't just some random high school profs with a big toy, these guys have worked for a long ass time on this.

XCaosX · **Posted:** Sat May 10, 2008 9:31 pm

Reise wrote:

Blackdragon6 wrote:

Yes, but they do they know how the big bang happened? What if it happened, by a chain reaction...

Now wait right there Einstein. You're saying all this stuff having zero knowledge of the subject compared to those scientists and developing a "DOOOOOM!" mentality from it. I think you need to do yourself a favor and look into the situation some more, like learn some stuff for yourself.

These aren't just some random high school profs with a big toy, these guys have worked for a long ass time on this.

they could have worked on it even for 8000000years..but what if they're wrong? :shock:

edit:i wouldnt play with things like that anyway xD

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

They say something in the neighborhood of 1 in 50 million chance something might go wrong. The equivalent to winning the lottery 3 weeks in a row.

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

Reise wrote:

Blackdragon6 wrote:

Yes, but they do they know how the big bang happened? What if it happened, by a chain reaction...

Now wait right there Einstein. You're saying all this stuff having zero knowledge of the subject compared to those scientists and developing a "DOOOOOM!" mentality from it. I think you need to do yourself a favor and look into the situation some more, like learn some stuff for yourself.

These aren't just some random high school profs with a big toy, these guys have worked for a long ass time on this.

Actually I have a fair Idea on it, that's why I was saying why are they doing it if they don't even know how it happened? The chances of anything going wrong are very slim IMO, but The point of it is to find out the truth behind the big bang because they don't know either so no one can right?

Draquish · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 6423 **Location:** ____

Reise wrote:

They say something in the neighborhood of 1 in 50 million chance something might go wrong. The equivalent to winning the lottery 3 weeks in a row.

Murphy's Law?

J/k. Sounds like a fine experiment to me.

They should take pix!

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